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Old 09-27-2013 | 10:14 PM
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Thank you for the quick response. I will email gloria on monday.

There is a mount in the fron and in the back, on the bottom side of the motor, right? And then the motor mounts up top.

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Old 09-27-2013 | 10:48 PM
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no email received if that was to me.
no its 09 tcsedan I sent emails about cabs and mounts
Old 09-27-2013 | 11:05 PM
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oh ok. wasent sure who that was intended too thanks!!!
Old 09-28-2013 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 09TcSedan
Thank you for the quick response. I will email gloria on monday.

There is a mount in the fron and in the back, on the bottom side of the motor, right? And then the motor mounts up top.
The Powell rotated mounts replace the lower front mount and add an aluminum keyhole space to the lower rear mount. The top mount is not modified at all.

Here's my how-to in case anyone is interested: http://www.5280cobalts.com/modules.p...ewtopic&t=1513

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Old 09-28-2013 | 01:01 PM
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Seeet. That will probably help me out alot.

I was talkin to my buddy and he said he coukd have the new CABs pressed in at his work. So on monday I will order them and then hopefully next weekend in stall them depebding on how long shipping is
Old 11-02-2013 | 11:08 PM
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john, just a little curious, you said installing LNF lower control arms in a LSJ were difficult, why is that??

I thought they were interchangeable? what am I missing?

thanks
Old 11-02-2013 | 11:13 PM
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The lnf arms have a slightly larger ball joint stud. You need to open up the knuckle a little.
Old 11-02-2013 | 11:17 PM
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^^^^this. The ball joint stud is 1 mm larger on the LNF. Thats .5 a side basically if you want to look at it like that. Insert a large chisel in the slot in the knuckle for that purpose, a good wack and you are done. DO NOT use an air chisel unless you are proficient, you can break the knuckle in an instant. It has good malleability but it will fracture not bend beyond a certain point.
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PS the spherical cab center sleeve is slightly shorter than stock. The ears of the cradle compress no problem. carry on....
Old 11-02-2013 | 11:19 PM
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thank you Sir.
Old 04-25-2014 | 07:43 PM
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Following Johns advice to drop the cradle, I now have only the 21mm bolts holding it still attached.

The rear bolts for the cradle are the same as the rear control arm bolts?

If so now is it safe to force out the rear control arm bolts without damaging the captive nut?

Thanks
Old 04-27-2014 | 12:21 AM
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To help anyone else, once all the bolts except the 4 21mm bolts are out you can evenly loosen all 4 bolts and the captive nuts are saved as the cradle slowly lowers.
Old 04-27-2014 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
^^^^this. The ball joint stud is 1 mm larger on the LNF. Thats .5 a side basically if you want to look at it like that. Insert a large chisel in the slot in the knuckle for that purpose, a good wack and you are done. DO NOT use an air chisel unless you are proficient, you can break the knuckle in an instant. It has good malleability but it will fracture not bend beyond a certain point.
air hammer method is the best way, easiest way but almost the most dangerous way. ive had 2 cars now where chisels wont even phase the control arms. john is right though if you dont have a clue do not attempt this method as you run the disk of a damaged control arm.
Old 04-27-2014 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
PS the spherical cab center sleeve is slightly shorter than stock. The ears of the cradle compress no problem. carry on....
One day this summer I am going to take a road trip to Canada and we are going to install your spherical CABs. Calling post office tomorrow to get a renewed passport.
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installed my bushings the other day and they are delicious
Old 04-27-2014 | 09:49 PM
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Hell yea ^^^ a night and day difference from stock ones. When you give it the beans the car dose not move from side to side.
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after 150 000km I should probably change mine then. Or buy new control arms
Old 05-01-2014 | 08:46 AM
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One day this summer I am going to take a road trip to Canada and we are going to install your spherical CABs. Calling post office tomorrow to get a renewed passport.
Always great to meet folks from the Forum. Andrew Carr was the last out of state visitor a really dedicated mod freak!
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after 150 000km I should probably change mine then. Or buy new control arms
If you have a GT you should have alloy control arms. The biggest issue will be removing the arms; I am finding 2010 'balts with seized bushings. It is a lot of work. The latest way I figured out to unseize the sleeve, is to channel compressed air over the rubber insert constantly while directing a MAP gas flame directly at the bolt head. It worked on a 2010, not sure if it would work on a really difficult hard seized insert.

Also I now use a Moly disulphide anti seize ( Lloyds) on the new bolts and nuts, and grease on the cab eye( they are shipped coated)
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
If you have a GT you should have alloy control arms. The biggest issue will be removing the arms; I am finding 2010 'balts with seized bushings. It is a lot of work. The latest way I figured out to unseize the sleeve, is to channel compressed air over the rubber insert constantly while directing a MAP gas flame directly at the bolt head. It worked on a 2010, not sure if it would work on a really difficult hard seized insert.

Also I now use a Moly disulphide anti seize ( Lloyds) on the new bolts and nuts, and grease on the cab eye( they are shipped coated)
It's an 06 (this should be fun) thanks for the tips, much appreciated.
Old 05-01-2014 | 09:02 AM
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It's an 06 (this should be fun) thanks for the tips, much appreciated.
Of course, you could always make the trip from "wooooooodddddbrrrrriiiiiiddddggggeeee" to me, and have me do it, but frankly I prefer that folks struggle with it themselves. The last person locally did that, I got the car anyway and had to replace the cradle it was so badly damaged by poor guys failed attempts (lol) I am now out of cradles to exchange unless I repair this one . cheers

ps I bought a mini sawzall on sale at CTC to cut it out and ran through 6 blades.
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Always great to meet folks from the Forum. Andrew Carr was the last out of state visitor a really dedicated mod freak!
My 09 didn't have any issues besides me over torquing bolts...

Looking for sometime in July to get that F23 LSD built, don't know if you want a down payment to get things rolling or what, I've got to get a new Clutch and swap the trans while there so hopefully can be done in one full day, just what I'm saying sounds expensive though, maybe August.
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My 09 didn't have any issues besides me over torquing bolts...

Looking for sometime in July to get that F23 LSD built, don't know if you want a down payment to get things rolling or what, I've got to get a new Clutch and swap the trans while there so hopefully can be done in one full day, just what I'm saying sounds expensive though, maybe August.
it is possible but unlikely to do it in one day
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
Of course, you could always make the trip from "wooooooodddddbrrrrriiiiiiddddggggeeee" to me, and have me do it, but frankly I prefer that folks struggle with it themselves. The last person locally did that, I got the car anyway and had to replace the cradle it was so badly damaged by poor guys failed attempts (lol) I am now out of cradles to exchange unless I repair this one . cheers

ps I bought a mini sawzall on sale at CTC to cut it out and ran through 6 blades.

This poor local is eternally grateful! Thank you John.
What a bitch that was!
I must buy some parts from you soon. Hardcore bar.

Yes, I now know that yearly under coating is a must up here. Not just once.

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Old 05-29-2014 | 11:29 PM
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lol at BeaverG5GT I still have those broken bolts to remind myself and others what a pita that is... lol cheers annual oil spray for sure....



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