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Old 08-29-2013 | 07:55 PM
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Rear suspension rattle? Check your bushings!

I've had a loud metal rattle or clunking in my rear suspension for a long time and until recently I was unable to determine the cause. At a recent car show I managed to make a video of the culprit: the right rear twisting bar bushing:


I ordered Powell Race Shop replacement bushings and swapped them out last weekend.
It turns out the right side bushing has worn down on the outer side against the bracket, and also the bolt had worn down the orifice on the inside:

On the left, the left hand bushing, still intact, on the right the worn down one:

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This picture clearly shows how the bolt has eroded away the aluminum sleeve:

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As I said, this had been going on for some time, as evidenced by the amount of material missing in this picture!!

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I haven't done any hard cornering yet to tell the difference but that annoying rattle is finally gone and I can't tell you how happy that makes me!

So if you have a similar rattle, take off the e-brake, grab your rear rim by two spokes and shake it up. If your bushing moves like mine, it's time to email Gloria

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Old 08-29-2013 | 08:28 PM
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How hard was the install and how much did they cost? I have this rattle/noise and I've replaced pretty much every bushing except those and still have the noise.

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Old 08-29-2013 | 08:34 PM
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Install was relatively easy, although the damaged bushing took quite a few whacks with the hammer to get out. A heavy hammer will help, all we had was just a dinky claw hammer.

PRS Twisting Beam Bushings with hardware are 395.00 per set.

Ask John to send you the Kent Moore tool on loan. You NEED this to install them. (Come to think of it, I still have it, I promise I'll mail it back tomorrow Gloria!)
Old 08-29-2013 | 08:47 PM
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Damn dats espensive!

Maybe I can deal with the noise.... for now. From what I hear though, his stuff is well worth it.

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Old 08-29-2013 | 09:29 PM
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Install was a cake walk. A dead blow hammer would of knocked them out much quicker. I didn't notice you snapping pics while we where installing them
Old 08-29-2013 | 09:36 PM
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darn thats a nice write up the stock bushings had really died big time. If you think the upgrade is expensive, go price stock ones. lol.

I sell used bushings to some pretty far places haha.
Old 08-29-2013 | 09:50 PM
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Install was a cake walk. A dead blow hammer would of knocked them out much quicker. I didn't notice you snapping pics while we where installing them
Now we know who was doing all the work.
Old 08-29-2013 | 10:46 PM
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Now we know who was doing all the work.
lol actually Eric DID do most of the work! But now it'll be even easier for him once he installs these on his own car
Old 08-29-2013 | 10:48 PM
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I enjoy working on cars so it wasn't a big deal

Again I should just start sending Powell my paychecks want to do this, CABs and a hardcore or XXX
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darn thats a nice write up the stock bushings had really died big time. If you think the upgrade is expensive, go price stock ones. lol.

I sell used bushings to some pretty far places haha.
Thanks John! Come to think of it, do you have a need for the old brackets? I'd be happy to ship you those if you can use them as a core. Just let me know!
Old 08-30-2013 | 09:17 AM
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Thanks John! Come to think of it, do you have a need for the old brackets? I'd be happy to ship you those if you can use them as a core. Just let me know!
for sure I am running low on those for redrilling, so chat with gloria for a credit against your check valve purchase lol
Old 08-30-2013 | 10:12 AM
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for sure I am running low on those for redrilling, so chat with gloria for a credit against your check valve purchase lol
Absolutely!
Old 11-15-2013 | 09:56 AM
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I have this same issue, and mine are making a loud rattle. I would like to save some money and just replace them with OEM, does anyone here know the GM part number? I have been trying to locate it but cannot.
Old 11-15-2013 | 02:01 PM
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I know the Powell bushings are a bit more expensive, but if you replace them with stock guess what is going to happen again?

Anyways here's the link on CED:
Cobalt Axle Bushing 25782808
Old 11-15-2013 | 02:17 PM
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Powell is there any warranty on these rear bushings ?
Old 11-15-2013 | 02:20 PM
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I do have a loud clunking coming on the right side of the rear. ....... jesus im never going to get ahead with john steeling my monies lol.
Old 11-15-2013 | 07:45 PM
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John pretty much guarantees his products for the life of the car at least that's been my experience.

Oh and Joemann892: I just came across my old bushings in the basement, the passenger side was the bad one, but if you pay for shipping I'd be happy to send you the driver's side one for free. It looks absolutely fine. Just PM me if you're interested...
Old 11-24-2013 | 01:30 PM
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I appreciate the offer for the free bushing, and thanks for finding the part number as well for me. I think I may save some money and just buy the upgraded ones from John Powell
Old 11-25-2013 | 04:58 PM
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Please tell me what you're using to jack up your rear end like that.
Old 11-25-2013 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Econobox
Please tell me what you're using to jack up your rear end like that.
We just used my two cheapo Craftsman hydraulic jacks...then put jack stands under the car so we could use the same 2 jacks to support the rear twisting beam while unbolting it. The wheel was also just there for additional support during install ;-)
Old 11-26-2013 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by colodude18
We just used my two cheapo Craftsman hydraulic jacks...then put jack stands under the car so we could use the same 2 jacks to support the rear twisting beam while unbolting it. The wheel was also just there for additional support during install ;-)
Sorry, I meant the yellow bar. The "jacking points" on this car are maddening to me. My pinch welds in the front are simply toast from the previous owner.

I was seriously considering having someone weld in some jacking plates, but then, where? Sigh
Old 11-26-2013 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Econobox
Sorry, I meant the yellow bar. The "jacking points" on this car are maddening to me. My pinch welds in the front are simply toast from the previous owner.

I was seriously considering having someone weld in some jacking plates, but then, where? Sigh
Powell also sells under car rails which gives you a jack point in the middle of the car. Still on my to do list. Guess I have to add these bushings too, have had this noise for a while.
Old 11-26-2013 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Econobox
Sorry, I meant the yellow bar. The "jacking points" on this car are maddening to me. My pinch welds in the front are simply toast from the previous owner.

I was seriously considering having someone weld in some jacking plates, but then, where? Sigh
Gotcha. I usually jack the car up by putting a small 2x4 just behind the pinch weld on the side of the car. My 2x4 is long enough so there's room for the jack stand if I need to use that...
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what are the added benifits of using powells compared to just replacing them with stock bushings from CED ?

Powell $395 + shipping

or

CED $160+shipping

Thats a huge price differential. Just curious cuz mine need replacing
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Originally Posted by colodude18
Gotcha. I usually jack the car up by putting a small 2x4 just behind the pinch weld on the side of the car. My 2x4 is long enough so there's room for the jack stand if I need to use that...
Thanks for the info, I might have to do that. It sounds like the underbody rails suggested by disposable hero are a reasonable solution to my "problem" though. If they don't weight too much or are crazy expensive. I'm a pretty firm believer in subframe rails too so perhaps that will work out for me.


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