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Old 10-07-2009 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CobaltSSilver
Yes it is in Post 11 please go and look again. Maven has a great reputation here and won't jerk your chain.

The part number 19181631 is an updated part number. It would be the one to use, in fact it will automatically update your order if you go to GMPD online.
No it is not. I used the search function built into the forum and the one built into my browser.. It was first mentioned in my post above.


FE1 Part Numbers
Sway bar: 15822933(18mm not 19)
Bar clamps: 22608428(FE3 same)
Bar insulators: 15821022
Rear Axle: 15232753
Bar Links: 15782690(same as FE3)
Struts: 15876215/15876216(L/R, same as FE3)
Shocks: 22696400
Frt Springs: various, L/R diff.(not used by other RPOs)
Rr Springs: 22705489
Lower control arms: multiple numbers, varies by year and equipment, steel, not used by other RPOs
Knuckle: 22667248/22667249(L/R, same as all models except LNF/FE5

FE3 Part numbers:
Sway Bar: 15782964
Clamps: 22608428(same as FE1)
Insulators: 15820163
Rear Axle: 15232752(Same as FE5)
Links: 15782690(same as FE1)
Struts: 15876215/15876216(L/R, same as FE1)
Shocks: 10368516
Frt Springs: various, L/r different, (not shared wirth other RPOs)
Rr springs: 10390024(same as FE5)
Lower control arms: 15787556/15787555( L/R, aluminum, NOT the same as FE5)
Knuckle: 22667248/22667249(L/R same as all models except LNF)

FE5 part numbers
Sway bar: 15821093
Clamps: 22608428('05 only , 1bolt/1slot) 10389617(2 bolt, ALL other FE5 including LNF)
Insulators: 22700091('05 only) 15822993(06-07 only)
Rear Axle: 15232752(same as FE3)
Links: 20784688(ALL FE5 same, including LNF)
Struts: 15247245/15247246(L/R)
Shocks: 22728821
Frt Springs: 21994335(L/R same)
Rr springs: 10390024(same as FE3)
Lower control arm: 15803766/15803767( L/R, right same as LNF)
Knuckle: 22667248/22667249(same as all except LNF)

LNF/FE5 Part numbers
Sway bar: 15782696
Clamps: 10389617(same as 06-07 FE5)
Insulators: 25847760
Rear Axle: 25864579
Links: 20784688( ALL FE5 same)
Struts: 19181044/19181043(L/R)
Shocks: 25793745
Frt Springs: 25833647(L/R same)
Rr Springs: 25821162
Lower control arm: 25930725/15803767( L/R, right same on ALL FE5)
Knuckle: 25923942/25923941(L/R, unique to LNF)





PN in question is not there. I dunno, am I missing it still? ctrl+f 19181631 on this page see where ya find it. Or go to search this thread and search the posts that contain that pn or search the suspension forum.

EDIT: I looked at the cobalt suspension parts listed on CED again, they do list 19181631 BUT they list another PN for the opposite fe5 strut 19181251. %$^#

EDIT #2: I do trust mavens post, that is why I am asking here wether or not the new pn is going to work / whats the difference.

EDIT #3: I emailed cx service at GMPD and they wrote back on 09 cobalt ss struts/shocks:

19181251 driver's side front suspension strut

19181631 passenger's side front suspension strut

25793745 rear shock absorber, purchase as needed

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Old 10-07-2009 | 04:18 PM
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Part numbers do routinely change, I havent updated that post because i dont have time to keep constantly updating, but the numbers I list will give you the original number and if its been supersceded that info should be easy to find out from where you buy your parts. I dont know that the price has dropped.
Old 10-08-2009 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.N00bLaR
No it is not. I used the search function built into the forum and the one built into my browser.. It was first mentioned in my post above.


FE1 Part Numbers
Sway bar: 15822933(18mm not 19)
Bar clamps: 22608428(FE3 same)
Bar insulators: 15821022
Rear Axle: 15232753
Bar Links: 15782690(same as FE3)
Struts: 15876215/15876216(L/R, same as FE3)
Shocks: 22696400
Frt Springs: various, L/R diff.(not used by other RPOs)
Rr Springs: 22705489
Lower control arms: multiple numbers, varies by year and equipment, steel, not used by other RPOs
Knuckle: 22667248/22667249(L/R, same as all models except LNF/FE5

FE3 Part numbers:
Sway Bar: 15782964
Clamps: 22608428(same as FE1)
Insulators: 15820163
Rear Axle: 15232752(Same as FE5)
Links: 15782690(same as FE1)
Struts: 15876215/15876216(L/R, same as FE1)
Shocks: 10368516
Frt Springs: various, L/r different, (not shared wirth other RPOs)
Rr springs: 10390024(same as FE5)
Lower control arms: 15787556/15787555( L/R, aluminum, NOT the same as FE5)
Knuckle: 22667248/22667249(L/R same as all models except LNF)

FE5 part numbers
Sway bar: 15821093
Clamps: 22608428('05 only , 1bolt/1slot) 10389617(2 bolt, ALL other FE5 including LNF)
Insulators: 22700091('05 only) 15822993(06-07 only)
Rear Axle: 15232752(same as FE3)
Links: 20784688(ALL FE5 same, including LNF)
Struts: 15247245/15247246(L/R)
Shocks: 22728821
Frt Springs: 21994335(L/R same)
Rr springs: 10390024(same as FE3)
Lower control arm: 15803766/15803767( L/R, right same as LNF)
Knuckle: 22667248/22667249(same as all except LNF)

LNF/FE5 Part numbers
Sway bar: 15782696
Clamps: 10389617(same as 06-07 FE5)
Insulators: 25847760
Rear Axle: 25864579
Links: 20784688( ALL FE5 same)
Struts: 19181044/19181043(L/R)
Shocks: 25793745
Frt Springs: 25833647(L/R same)
Rr Springs: 25821162
Lower control arm: 25930725/15803767( L/R, right same on ALL FE5)
Knuckle: 25923942/25923941(L/R, unique to LNF)





PN in question is not there. I dunno, am I missing it still? ctrl+f 19181631 on this page see where ya find it. Or go to search this thread and search the posts that contain that pn or search the suspension forum.

EDIT: I looked at the cobalt suspension parts listed on CED again, they do list 19181631 BUT they list another PN for the opposite fe5 strut 19181251. %$^#

EDIT #2: I do trust mavens post, that is why I am asking here wether or not the new pn is going to work / whats the difference.

EDIT #3: I emailed cx service at GMPD and they wrote back on 09 cobalt ss struts/shocks:

19181251 driver's side front suspension strut

19181631 passenger's side front suspension strut

25793745 rear shock absorber, purchase as needed
I found it on GMPD or gmpartsdirect.com...I put in the original part number and it let me know it had been updated with the new part number. *shrugs* Sorry it was confusing for you.
Old 10-09-2009 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltSSilver
I found it on GMPD or gmpartsdirect.com...I put in the original part number and it let me know it had been updated with the new part number. *shrugs* Sorry it was confusing for you.
I work in a research (networking tech related) position and one thing I know is, don't guess. Next time you have a question, I will respond accordingly..
Since the dealer had not mentioned anything about updated parts and printed me out a quote with older parts numbers this raised a flag when I went to GMPD (same day). Guessing is not an option and accountability is 100% (specially when its my stuff )
I will say that GMPD did add some value to my purchase by replying with a screenshot of a tool they have access to with the old PNs translated into what I posted. Yay for GMPD's help and price.

And you were incorrect, the pn in question was not listed, could you please search next time?


Originally Posted by maven
Part numbers do routinely change, I havent updated that post because i dont have time to keep constantly updating, but the numbers I list will give you the original number and if its been supersceded that info should be easy to find out from where you buy your parts. I dont know that the price has dropped.
Thanks for that piece of info! I was not aware of this and I do dont know/understand GMs part number schema.
Old 10-09-2009 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.N00bLaR
19181631 This is not in post 11. I went to the dealership today to check the part numbers on SS/TC suspension (09) and they gave me 19181043 BUT GMPD claims this was replaced by 19181631. Any insight?
(BTW gmpd is cheaper vs ced)
And GMPD is more expensive than GMPartsOnline.net on most things. Price of GMPD is cheaper, but shipping is more and GMPO.net is more for parts, but cheaper for shipping...generally though, GMPO.net is going to be the cheapest of the three (CED being the third).

N/M I guess...I just did this on GMPO and the price is what it was...now GMPD is only $305 shipped to me where as it used to be a little over $375. GMPO is $373 like it used to be though.

GMPD must have lowered their prices now.
Old 10-10-2009 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.N00bLaR
I work in a research (networking tech related) position and one thing I know is, don't guess. Next time you have a question, I will respond accordingly..
Since the dealer had not mentioned anything about updated parts and printed me out a quote with older parts numbers this raised a flag when I went to GMPD (same day). Guessing is not an option and accountability is 100% (specially when its my stuff )
I will say that GMPD did add some value to my purchase by replying with a screenshot of a tool they have access to with the old PNs translated into what I posted. Yay for GMPD's help and price.

And you were incorrect, the pn in question was not listed, could you please search next time?



Thanks for that piece of info! I was not aware of this and I do dont know/understand GMs part number schema.
The part number is in the thread. Use that search amigo...networker to networker.
Old 10-10-2009 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltSSilver
The part number is in the thread. Use that search amigo...networker to networker.
If you tell me which post it is in I'll give you a cookie!
Old 10-11-2009 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.N00bLaR
If you tell me which post it is in I'll give you a cookie!
You can keep that 'cookie'.

It is in your own post, and multiple folks have confirmed it. If you 'search' you will find the part number 19181631 in a few other posts as well. When the part number gets updated so does the parts database. The dealer, if you give them the old part number will give you a heads up and say this is the new part number. Which is a hell of a lot better than trying to order Cisco parts. If that part number changes there are tools but it doesn't automatically give you the new one. At GM for now it has and does.

At gmpartsdirect plug in the old number and it gives you the new one. I know it is not as confusion free as one would hope but your other option is to call a Chevy dealer and ask what is the part number for a front right strut for 2008-2009 Cobalt SS/TC. That is another way to confirm and/or obtain this info for each and every part. Very time consuming where as this thread and the help of Maven gets you there much faster.
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^Well done.
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Originally Posted by CobaltSSilver
You can keep that 'cookie'.

It is in your own post, and multiple folks have confirmed it. If you 'search' you will find the part number 19181631 in a few other posts as well. When the part number gets updated so does the parts database. The dealer, if you give them the old part number will give you a heads up and say this is the new part number. Which is a hell of a lot better than trying to order Cisco parts. If that part number changes there are tools but it doesn't automatically give you the new one. At GM for now it has and does.

At gmpartsdirect plug in the old number and it gives you the new one. I know it is not as confusion free as one would hope but your other option is to call a Chevy dealer and ask what is the part number for a front right strut for 2008-2009 Cobalt SS/TC. That is another way to confirm and/or obtain this info for each and every part. Very time consuming where as this thread and the help of Maven gets you there much faster.




I did and they just told me I needed the original pns... Guess I shouldn't go back to that counter? Thank you for the help
Old 10-12-2009 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.N00bLaR
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I did and they just told me I needed the original pns... Guess I shouldn't go back to that counter? Thank you for the help
That is true not all part counters are created equal. Sometimes a GMPD dealer is better than others, but not always. Also, if there's high turnover in that particular dealerships parts department your service can suffer.
Old 10-16-2009 | 11:37 AM
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Now I don't wanna go trough 14 pages, neither will I make a useless tread on it, I just want to know if the FE5 front end links will fit on a FE1 suspension cause mines are done and I got to change them. I'm also droped on sportlines, if it changes anything.
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Originally Posted by Vince920
Now I don't wanna go trough 14 pages, neither will I make a useless tread on it, I just want to know if the FE5 front end links will fit on a FE1 suspension cause mines are done and I got to change them. I'm also droped on sportlines, if it changes anything.
Yes theyll fit, but you have to replace in pairs.....you cant mix and match.
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Yes theyll fit, but you have to replace in pairs.....you cant mix and match.

By in pairs, you mean both sides?

Originally Posted by Maven
Yes theyll fit, but you have to replace in pairs.....you cant mix and match.

By in pairs, you mean both sides? Oh and does: Sway Bar End Links = front end links cause I want to be sure I was asking for the good thing.

And thanks Maven, really appreciate it

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Old 10-16-2009 | 09:16 PM
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what do the front end links look like?...I may need new ones too.
Old 10-17-2009 | 07:46 PM
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yes front end links, swat bar links, same stuff. Replace only in pairs.

They look like little 5/16" thick rods connecting the strut and the sway bar.
Whats the best way to tell if there worn out?
Old 10-17-2009 | 07:49 PM
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would i benefit from getting the FE5 springs and shocks/struts put on my 08 G5 GT (LE3)?

also, i have had sportlines for about 15k miles and whenever i turn left i can feel like a pop in the steering wheel and underneath my feet in the floorboard, does anyone know what could be causing this?
Old 10-22-2009 | 01:57 PM
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would these control arms fit on my 06 balt with the fe1 front end? http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...P1664C188.aspx
thanks
Old 10-31-2009 | 08:07 PM
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would these control arms fit on my 06 balt with the fe1 front end? http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...P1664C188.aspx
thanks
they should, but check with Maven to be positive
Old 11-01-2009 | 12:51 PM
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^^^ i asked him before and they will... and im not sure if there is a plain old specs and differences thread or not but does anyone know if the ss lsd trans (mu3??) will bolt up to any of the ecotecs? just a thought, but i would like to autox which is why im starting with my suspension, but i really would like lsd anyway...?anyone?

opps, forgot to add, stock wheel offsets in sticky would be nice(wink wink)

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Old 11-05-2009 | 01:43 PM
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bushings replacement

Ok, i just read through all 14 pages to determine my options and I'll post my question here for recommendations/corrections.

I have a 2007 LT. I beleive it therefore has Fe1 suspension (please correct me if I'm wrong)

I need to replace the bushings and am considering gettings these:

http://www.ottperformance.com/Cobalt...duct_info.html

It says there only fit on Fe5 control arms. So my options are:

1.) Replace the bushings with oem stock bushings and have them replaced again in another 30,000 km....

2.) Put on the above mentioned bushings that will last longer/forever (I'm still assuming this won't work since it says I need Fe5)

3.) upgrade to Fe5 control arms and get those bushings installed

I hope Maven is still around since it seems like he knows his ****, but help by anyone would be much appreciated! Thanks is advance.
Old 11-05-2009 | 10:42 PM
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In order to use the OTTP CABs youll need to get FE3 or FE5 arms. OTTP should be aable to help you get the whole setup
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Ok cool, thanks alot. I think I'm going to stick with stock parts this winter and maybe do the changeover to Fe5 in March or whenever the snow is gone. I feel like the bushing replacement will be a routine procedure if I stick with stock parts, and I don't feel like paying $500 in labour to do it every 30,000km.
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^^ it will... i hav had both of mine done i think twice, and since im putting on fe5 hubs and brakes and such, i might as well spend a little more and do it right w carms and scabs. Maven, will ottp order c-arms for us for decent prices or is it possible to get them cheaper elsewhere? im doing my 5 lug swap on a tight budget in the spring and am starting the parts collecting process so any and all info is greatly appreciated...
i have hubs and brakes already

i was going to get braided lines i would assume ss lines would work with my ls (plz correct)

i need a rear axle beam and front c arms

you said my fe1 knuckles will work but i still want the comp knuckles lol


i was going to do sway bars and bwoody endlinks while im at it, should i do track bars too? i do plan on autocrossing or at least demolishing local ricers lol is there anything else i need to pull this off??

k...just looked at zzp and they say they have chrommoly tubular c arms coming soon....should i hold out for those??? i would prefer to wait and do it right and hardcore from the beginning on this....????????????

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I have a 2006 cobalt ss/na 2.4...i have kyb shocks..zenn lowering springs and a ttr rear sway bar. i eventually want to change the lower control arm bushings to the after market ones and i am having a big confusion with front sway bar links. I don't want to change the front sway bar because i heard the front one is fine the way it is, so i am just curious if the shorter fe5 links will fit my car? If so i will order the moog ones with the grease inserts. Thanks, tom.



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