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Old 08-04-2012 | 10:25 AM
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it sucks! I want my car to handle better but i dont want to lose any drop! I have base model so my car looks super dumb without a drop.
these are lower than base models, in fact they are lower than TC which is lower than base etc etc.

but the primary goal was not low. Hope folks understand that and are not disappoint.
Old 08-04-2012 | 10:34 AM
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These are so tempting, but I like the drop I current have not a smooth ride but I'm used to it, but I do want to start road racing or auto-x so the handling would be nice.
Old 08-04-2012 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
these are lower than base models, in fact they are lower than TC which is lower than base etc etc.

but the primary goal was not low. Hope folks understand that and are not disappoint.
Aren't you supposed to me on "vacation" as your auto-reply says?
Old 08-04-2012 | 02:10 PM
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Aren't you supposed to me on "vacation" as your auto-reply says?
thats Gloria. She works NASCAR on weekends. I am making seat brackets for race seats for delta's and pcv systems for turbo delta's.
and watching truck race and surfing
Old 08-04-2012 | 02:19 PM
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Old 08-04-2012 | 05:14 PM
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Old 08-04-2012 | 07:11 PM
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No but I can get them and direct you to good places... check in with wangspeed or 09calicobaltss (Mike) they know the drill. I have a very good place you can go to in California for the best with valving, but not cheep. email me I can direct you. Thanks for choosing Powell hardcore race parts.
Old 08-05-2012 | 09:02 PM
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Paid. Lmk if we can get these to Arkansas on Wednesday, if not ill have a different shipping address for you
Old 08-05-2012 | 10:40 PM
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Paid. Lmk if we can get these to Arkansas on Wednesday, if not ill have a different shipping address for you
should not be an issue I hope, its a holiday here but not in the USA.\ Thanks for choosing Powell hardcore raceparts.
Old 08-07-2012 | 06:35 AM
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Pedders after miles:
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the thing I beleive is happening with these Pedders, is that they are low in linear rate and have short free length to acheive a drop. So small spring diameter, they get over stressed, become plastic and take a set; u can see where the rears are actually rusting where the coils hit. All the coils are binding at load. I will post ride height pictures later, but its clear they are low left side, as the tracks Loki goes to all turn predominantly clockwise.
and now: YYZ prototype
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Old 08-07-2012 | 08:15 AM
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Hey John, why are the dead coils on bottom?
Old 08-07-2012 | 09:15 AM
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because thats the way the mounted easiest for me. Wangspeed did it the opposite, he is stronger than me....The spec of the coil end clearance is exactly per OEM BUT the spring wire is larger in diameter. I wanted to make it easier to install by keeping OEM spec, and didnt figure the wire diameter change. However the spring dont care which way the coils go. Its a spring. And as the coils unload in droop there is so much rate in progression, there is no danger of them ever falling out.
Old 08-07-2012 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
because thats the way the mounted easiest for me. Wangspeed did it the opposite, he is stronger than me....The spec of the coil end clearance is exactly per OEM BUT the spring wire is larger in diameter. I wanted to make it easier to install by keeping OEM spec, and didnt figure the wire diameter change. However the spring dont care which way the coils go. Its a spring. And as the coils unload in droop there is so much rate in progression, there is no danger of them ever falling out.
Gotcha, well thanks for the clarification. For some reason I was under the impression the dead coils always went on top.
Old 08-07-2012 | 11:02 AM
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Are YYZ springs hot wound or cold wound?
Old 08-07-2012 | 11:14 AM
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Mine came today! I just really wanted to thank John for not only the springs but getting them to me so fast so I can get a couple autox's on these this season. Really appreciate it man! Love the color too. These will be going on my car tomorrow with the fairly new ss/tc FE5 suspension, so I'll post a review of the ride then and a review from the autox on Sunday.
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Old 08-08-2012 | 04:41 PM
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Old 08-08-2012 | 05:16 PM
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A few tips. Make sure the tab for the front spring hat is either pointed inwards, towards the engine, or lines up with the end of the spring. I haven't decided which is best. John uses the end of the spring.

The rear will require you to whittle down the plastic so that you can fit the bumpstop into the spring. The spring wire diameter is bigger than stock, so it's a tight fit. I don't think you're gonna do it with some lube alone. It's easier to just use a razor or knife and whittle.
Old 08-08-2012 | 05:30 PM
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Awesome, thanks for the info wang. What exactly do you mean by whittle? I was thinking if I needed to I could file it down a little all around. With the top and bottom hats on the rear spring was it a pain getting it to fit in the perch?
Old 08-08-2012 | 05:36 PM
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Haven't you ever whittled a stick down with a knife? Same thing. If you don't know how to do this, go look around youtube
Old 08-08-2012 | 06:22 PM
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Mine are on my doorstep, Im stuck at work til 11
Old 08-08-2012 | 07:38 PM
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What gauge are those springs? I think mine might be a little more beefy.

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Old 08-08-2012 | 07:44 PM
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A few tips. Make sure the tab for the front spring hat is either pointed inwards, towards the engine, or lines up with the end of the spring. I haven't decided which is best. John uses the end of the spring.

The rear will require you to whittle down the plastic so that you can fit the bumpstop into the spring. The spring wire diameter is bigger than stock, so it's a tight fit. I don't think you're gonna do it with some lube alone. It's easier to just use a razor or knife and whittle.
Please dont whittle (trim, cut, shave) the bottom isolator, Please use a heat gun pointed at the center, it gets soft, and then a little silicone on the isolator and it pops on easy and the isolator is not hurt that way.
Other than that, Wangspeed is always 100% on everything.

PS I used to do that, grind and whittle the damn things. Blazin06SS (Josh Rodriquez) gave me the heat gun trick, it works ossum....
Old 08-08-2012 | 07:52 PM
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What gauge are those springs? I think mine might be a little more beefy.

Haha what springs are those?
Old 08-08-2012 | 08:11 PM
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Haha what springs are those?
could be T3 springs which are simply hopeless to drive everywhere. Kinda like Linear coil over springs. Trolling the YYZ thread.
and btw, with no preload at the rear, the coil overs out there produce the bounciest coil over u ever seen/felt.

I did an analysis on a Honda Civic, for HSD the other day. 1.5 inches of total rear wheel travel. 1/2 an inch of rebound travel

but the stance is good.

car is horrible to drive.


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