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Old 03-13-2007, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Supercharged
A tech at my dealership works on a 1,100 hp drag Cobalt and said he got that info from Bate's Engineering. He said the cams are good for 600hp, pistons and rods ~400. Can't remember on the crank or sleeves. My numbers could be off a little. It was over a year ago I discussed it with him.

Not sure on valve springs. He already installed the Bate's Titanium spring set. He is currently running a 2.5 pulley, custom header (he made himself), through muffler (not sure which one) and a 100 shot of nitrous. Said he dynoed 343. I would think that he also upgraded the head gasket and head studs when he swapped cams. He took them back out be cause the cam sensor was off and it was giving him a CEL.
Thanks for the good info
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Any word on an estimated price? Hopefully less than $3000.
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Originally Posted by AjSS
Any word on an estimated price? Hopefully less than $3000.
x2! im definatly hoping its not outta my price range!
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...hey... guys at TAG...
What kind of CNC is that?

From what I can tell in the picture, it looks like a HAAS. Kinna like the one I learned how to code on...
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lol still waiting....
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crank is good to 700easy Cilinder sleves will break at 650-700
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Whatever happened to the guy that was doing the twin turbo setup???? VictoryRedss06 i think was his name...i'm not sure though
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Old 03-13-2007, 05:12 AM
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It sure would have been nice of TAG to let their first five know that they had started a new thread with new pics. Let's see if it's a diversionary tactic or if they're actually going to come up with something. I'm not getting excited until I see word that it's actually on the car and testing. You guys that are blowing over seeing some pics of the thing in place have issues. Can you say "American Pie"?
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Old 03-13-2007, 10:35 AM
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the price should be between 2500-3000 for the whole kit and its complete bolt on
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Old 03-13-2007, 11:04 AM
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that gives me some saving for next summer when the warranty is expired anyways
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Originally Posted by Mase
Intake's going to be in the stock location, so if you have an injen, AEM or what ever intake, it will simply bolt up.

Yea guys no artuing in this thread, just things related to the Twin Screw.

Should be done by the end of this month.
now i wish i hadn't seen this thread. it's just a teaser until the real thing comes out. like the monday night football halo 3 commercial. lol
keep up the good work guys. it's nice to see that we finally have some real aftermarket support for those of us who got the ss for the fact that it has a supercharger not a turbo

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that gives me some saving for next summer when the warranty is expired anyways
x2 by next season mine will be too

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Most people seem to have different opinions on what the LSJ and various components can handle. Here is a link:

http://www.year2032.com/ecotec.htm

Take it for what it is worth but it does seem to come from the horses mouth so to speak. Now this may have been pre-production prior to the finished lsj but it should give some sort of real idea as to what our tolerances are.

Now so that this post isnt completely off topic: Twin Screw.
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Originally Posted by The Sunburst Kid
Most people seem to have different opinions on what the LSJ and various components can handle. Here is a link:

http://www.year2032.com/ecotec.htm

Take it for what it is worth but it does seem to come from the horses mouth so to speak. Now this may have been pre-production prior to the finished lsj but it should give some sort of real idea as to what our tolerances are.

Now so that this post isnt completely off topic: Twin Screw.
Not really applicaple to the LSJ.. that was based off of an L61
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Not really applicaple to the LSJ.. that was based off of an L61
Similar application though. The bottom end components are much stronger in our engine, which is the first thing they had to address, so it kinda skews real world meaning. Most people are not going for 500+ hp on the street. The practical limit seems to be 350-400.
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Supercharged
A tech at my dealership works on a 1,100 hp drag Cobalt and said he got that info from Bate's Engineering. He said the cams are good for 600hp, pistons and rods ~400. Can't remember on the crank or sleeves. My numbers could be off a little. It was over a year ago I discussed it with him.

Not sure on valve springs. He already installed the Bate's Titanium spring set. He is currently running a 2.5 pulley, custom header (he made himself), through muffler (not sure which one) and a 100 shot of nitrous. Said he dynoed 343. I would think that he also upgraded the head gasket and head studs when he swapped cams. He took them back out be cause the cam sensor was off and it was giving him a CEL.

Does Bate's have a sight we can research on?


Does anyone have a source for the info we are all looking for so we can get the facts?
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Old 03-13-2007, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by XenSS06
Does Bate's have a sight we can research on?


Does anyone have a source for the info we are all looking for so we can get the facts?
Not that I know of, but I'll ask the next time I see the tech. It would be nice to see what the true tested limts of the car are.
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Old 03-13-2007, 09:20 PM
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will be doing that soon hopefully...
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Supercharged
A tech at my dealership works on a 1,100 hp drag Cobalt and said he got that info from Bate's Engineering. He said the cams are good for 600hp, pistons and rods ~400. Can't remember on the crank or sleeves. My numbers could be off a little. It was over a year ago I discussed it with him.

Not sure on valve springs. He already installed the Bate's Titanium spring set. He is currently running a 2.5 pulley, custom header (he made himself), through muffler (not sure which one) and a 100 shot of nitrous. Said he dynoed 343. I would think that he also upgraded the head gasket and head studs when he swapped cams. He took them back out be cause the cam sensor was off and it was giving him a CEL.
Wow! That tech is an idiot...
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Angry Off Thread

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Wow! That tech is an idiot...
Here we go again. Back statements up with published facts or keep opinions to yourself. I've had enough of chasing this damn thread around the forum because people can't just keep their mouths shut and let TAG have the thread.
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Originally Posted by Jumpin Fool
Here we go again. Back statements up with published facts or keep opinions to yourself. I've had enough of chasing this damn thread around the forum because people can't just keep their mouths shut and let TAG have the thread.
The post alpha was referencing didn't have any published fact either, just hearsay, so relax there killer.
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Cool For Cryin' Out Loud!

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The post alpha was referencing didn't have any published fact either, just hearsay, so relax there killer.
If you read it again you'll find I wasn't defending anyone or claiming any other post was more factual than others. Basically what I was trying to say, in the nicest way possible is, if you don't have facts or you're not TAG posting progress then shut the hell up and stay off the thread. I'm tired of sifting through the bullshit opinions, personal insults, and people posting the same damn questions that have been answered 50 times before to find out in the end that nothing productive has been posted on a thread that is supposed to be about TAG producing a product. Opinions should be stated as such and posted elsewhere if they have nothing to do directly with the Twinscrew swap.

I guess after 12+yrs in the military(and counting) I don't have the tolerance for garbage that some of you have. If any of you take this personally then go cry in the corner. If you're adult about this then you'll understand what I'm trying to say.
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^^^^exactly those of us who have money on this are having to be very patient and thinking new progress will be here when there is nothing but bs is getting old fast.
on a side note it looks like the first 3 on this are all military haha.
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Originally Posted by memphisr24
Whatever happened to the guy that was doing the twin turbo setup???? VictoryRedss06 i think was his name...i'm not sure though
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I am still here. My car is currently being converted to rwd before we can put the engine in and finish the turbo piping.
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damn rwd!?!?!?! You are going to have one insane cobalt man
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Someone at TAG please give another update. The thread is starting to shift again to a chating session. Shifting through 20+ damn pages for nothing is not cool, and like others have said will not be tolerated!
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