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Old 07-25-2018 | 09:19 AM
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Unhappy I think my car is making too much boost...please help!

Hi everyone! I’m new to owning a tc cobalt SS. I bought the car off some guy who couldn’t tell me much about it. Long story short the engine blew and I’m putting in a brand new LDK block. My boost gauge is in kpa and it reads up to 200 kpa..... when I was driving it it could hit this 200 mark. I told my friend and he said that was insane and the obvious reason for my compression issues ... I wasn’t told about any tunes or anything like that. Does the cobalt come with a max PSI/KPA that it won’t go over when stock??? If so how do I set it up so I’m not over boosting!? I don’t want to blow another engine and I was told this kpa is wayyyyy too high!! Help!!!
Old 07-25-2018 | 10:18 AM
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200kpa boost is around 30psi so yes that is too much. Does the car have any codes?
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The check engine light comes on randomly and goes off randomly... i don’t have a code reader so I’m really not sure.. do you think there is something wrong with my car? On the boost gauge should it stop on its own at the max? Mine literally will go all the way around to the bottom (200)
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I would definitely avoid driving it like that if at all possible. Get the codes read ASAP and maybe post some pictures of the engine bay here.
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I can't drive it even if I wanted to. Cylinder 4 has no compression and it was smoking so bad. It will hardly run at an idle right now. I am currently awaiting a brand new LDK block and k04 turbo from ZZPerformance. Hoping this will solve my main problem... I will get the codes read and post a picture when the engine is swapped. My friend said it may be as easy as taking off a tune if it is tuned. Does that sound about right or does it sound more serious than that? Thanks!
Old 07-25-2018 | 10:47 AM
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Normally if there is any issue it will disable the electronic controls and revert to mechanical boost which is around 5psi. I don't think the factory turbo can put out 30psi either. I may be wrong though. I would guess your gauge is bad but being the engine blew its questionable. I would def put a factory tune on it before you drive on the new engine to rule out the possibility someone didn't know what they were doing.
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Yeah.... my car is running around 30 psi when I come onto it so...
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Normally if there is any issue it will disable the electronic controls and revert to mechanical boost which is around 5psi.
Sounds like someone bypassed it or the line came off the solenoid.
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Okay I will mention that to my mechanic. If it was bypassed is there a way to revert it? So sorry for all the questions.
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Sounds like someone bypassed it or the line came off the solenoid.
is the factory turbo even capable of making that much boost? I thought it maxed out at around 25-26
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if the wastegate never opens yes...it can make over 30. Not good for the turbo or the engine though.
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Clearly not. Mine blewwwww. I really wish I would have known my car was making too much boost when I bought it..
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Originally Posted by Kolt
Normally if there is any issue it will disable the electronic controls and revert to mechanical boost which is around 5psi. I don't think the factory turbo can put out 30psi either. I may be wrong though. I would guess your gauge is bad but being the engine blew its questionable. I would def put a factory tune on it before you drive on the new engine to rule out the possibility someone didn't know what they were doing.
You can over ride that in hptuners, and a lot of people do change the table to max

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is the factory turbo even capable of making that much boost? I thought it maxed out at around 25-26
You can get it to spike 29-30psi, it's not going to hold that by any means. This is also assuming the OP has the stock turbo.
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Old 07-25-2018 | 11:51 AM
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Normally if there is any issue it will disable the electronic controls and revert to mechanical boost which is around 5psi. I don't think the factory turbo can put out 30psi either. I may be wrong though. I would guess your gauge is bad but being the engine blew its questionable. I would def put a factory tune on it before you drive on the new engine to rule out the possibility someone didn't know what they were doing.
Do you think a factory tune would prevent it from boosting that high?
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if the wastegate never opens yes...it can make over 30. Not good for the turbo or the engine though.
How can I tell if my wastegate is not opening?
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Do you think a factory tune would prevent it from boosting that high?
Factory tune is set to 15psi, but if there is a problem with the wastegate or solenoid it wont help. Ill take pictures of my lines when I get home so you can make sure at least its routed correctly and everything is hooked up.
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Factory tune is set to 15psi, but if there is a problem with the wastegate or solenoid it wont help. Ill take pictures of my lines when I get home so you can make sure at least its routed correctly and everything is hooked up.
If you hit overboost the car drives like poo poo (which the factory tune has overboost enabled, it will let you hit overboost once, then it disables completely via throttle limitation and open bpv/wastegate iirc)
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If you hit overboost the car drives like poo poo (which the factory tune has overboost enabled, it will let you hit overboost once, then it disables completely via throttle limitation and open bpv/wastegate iirc)
Mine 100% did not disable, I have always been able to reach 200 kpa
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Then you're not on a stock tune.
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Then you're not on a stock tune.
Things I wish I knew before I blew the thing up.... sigh. I am currently awaiting an LDK block and k04 turbo from ZZPerformance. I hope my mechanic can do a factory tune for me
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If your mechanic has hptuners he likely could, otherwise you need the dealer to reflash the ECU.
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Any idea how much that would cost?
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Depends on what your dealer wants, each one is different.
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Normally we charge 1 hour to program a module. So that would be 109 plus tax. Some places may go down to a half hour but usually its 1 hour. If you were close id do it for free.
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Definitely ensure you are reverted back to a stock tune to get that out of the way...

Personally I would ensure all the lines are run correctly to both solenoids (One on the turbo and one on the intake manifold). Boost leak and Smoke test the IC system and VAC lines all when replacing the motor.

If the gauge is still reading 200 KPA (I wouldn't be hitting WOT for engine brake in PS), I would find someone local to you with HP tuners to log the car. HPTuners can read boost output and you can confirm if its the gauge acting up or something else.



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