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Old 02-04-2008, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by husker/sc
Well I am sorry that you think the way you do, which is to be expected of a Mustang fan.

The numbers for the 03-04 Cobra are the biggest hype fest ever. The average times are not mid to high 12's more like very low 13's. You cannot make an average figure using numbers only from a Mustang forum in which people beat there cars to achieve.

As for LS1 F-Bodies and GTO's they are mid to high 13 second cars on average accross the board. When figuring only perfect runs I would call them low 13 second cars.

All in all I know from first hand experience what all these cars can do.

If the Cobras were that fast C6 Vettes wouldn't walk them like a puppy.
Guys at track for the first time might be low 13s and those people improve also but if you put any skilled driver in one a 12sec pass is nothing hard to obtain.

People beat there cars to achive? You can be a ***** with the car and expect to run good times.

C6s walk them from a high speed roll and that is do to being light and aerodynamic. Thats like a pickup truck racing a semi-truck. From a dig its another story the Cobra will beat the LS2 but the LS3 on the other hand should take the win.
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Originally Posted by 04YellowGT
Guys at track for the first time might be low 13s and those people improve also but if you put any skilled driver in one a 12sec pass is nothing hard to obtain.

People beat there cars to achive? You can be a ***** with the car and expect to run good times.

C6s walk them from a high speed roll and that is do to being light and aerodynamic. Thats like a pickup truck racing a semi-truck. From a dig its another story the Cobra will beat the LS2 but the LS3 on the other hand should take the win.
My friend went 12.9 in his bone stock Cobra either the first or second time he'd EVER been to a track.

Sure, the average run is not high 12's, but the average "personal best" probably is, and that's what people usually go by. Otherwise, if we averaged ALL the runs together, the SS/SC would easily be a HIGH 14-second car.

Generally, you'd say the SS/SC is a "mid-14 second car" because the average of personal bests is right around that area.
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i would say it is more a high 14 sec car lol
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
i would say it is more a high 14 sec car lol
OK... ok... I was giving it the benefit of the doubt

I think you get what I'm saying though. You don't really consider crappy runs and crappy drivers when you say how fast a car should be. Know what I mean?
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Originally Posted by Blainestang
My friend went 12.9 in his bone stock Cobra either the first or second time he'd EVER been to a track.

Sure, the average run is not high 12's, but the average "personal best" probably is, and that's what people usually go by. Otherwise, if we averaged ALL the runs together, the SS/SC would easily be a HIGH 14-second car.

Generally, you'd say the SS/SC is a "mid-14 second car" because the average of personal bests is right around that area.
exactly. by his standards (the termis being low 13 sec cars) the c6 z06 is a high 11 second car...which is not even close to the case. when someone says ____ car is a ____ sec car, they usually mean what the car is capable of with a good driver in good conditions, not freakishly good conditions and evan smith or a brand new driver and bad conditions.
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Originally Posted by 04YellowGT
Sorry but when a cars drastically faster, then no.

That would be like a GEO saying it beat your car. For some reason I don't think you would agree with that.
worst comparison ever!!


and wtf is up with all the mustang guys coming out of the woodwork.. jesus.
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Originally Posted by cincybalt
and wtf is up with all the mustang guys coming out of the woodwork.. jesus.
Coming out of the woodwork?

I've been here ~2 years longer than you, noob!
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Originally Posted by Blainestang
Coming out of the woodwork?

I've been here ~2 years longer than you, noob!
exactly. only showing up in mustang threads. ..

i looked at the first 5 pages of your posts.. all of them have something to do with a mustang.. what a suprise..

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Old 02-04-2008, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by cincybalt
exactly. only showing up in mustang threads. ..

i looked at the first 5 pages of your posts.. all of them have something to do with a mustang.. what a suprise..
Well, what do you THINK I would be posting about? Pottery?

This may be a Cobalt foum, but people discuss Mustangs and ask questions about them, if you haven't noticed.
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Originally Posted by cincybalt
worst comparison ever!!


and wtf is up with all the mustang guys coming out of the woodwork.. jesus.
Not when you talking about a balt with 2 passengers hanging very closely to a 03/04 Cobra from a roll. Hell its pretty hard even with a 99-01 to believe that.

I’ve been here a year longer than you, I just hang in the War Stories section to get a good laugh every once and awhile and to clear up misinformation about Mustang and non-Mustang topics.
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Well I havnt been able to find this guy anywhere. Guess I will never know.

Originally Posted by 04YellowGT
Not when you talking about a balt with 2 passengers hanging very closely to a 03/04 Cobra from a roll. Hell its pretty hard even with a 99-01 to believe that.
Well just to let you know both girls combined weigh about 230 pounds.
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Originally Posted by Herndon_High_SS
Well I havnt been able to find this guy anywhere. Guess I will never know.



Well just to let you know both girls combined weigh about 230 pounds.
That’s still .2 and 2mph slower against a car that traps 110 with a beginner driver. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you trap 105 at the track, that makes him 7mph faster at a pretty much best case scenario for you. Then take in to consideration that a Cobra shines from a roll and it all down hill from there. LOL

Not saying it didn’t or couldn’t happen but it is HIGHLY unlikely against a 03-04. Kind of a 1 in a Million shot really.
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Originally Posted by cincybalt
worst comparison ever!!


and wtf is up with all the mustang guys coming out of the woodwork.. jesus.
bullshit is bullshit no matter how you spin it.
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Originally Posted by 04YellowGT
Guys at track for the first time might be low 13s and those people improve also but if you put any skilled driver in one a 12sec pass is nothing hard to obtain.

People beat there cars to achive? You can be a ***** with the car and expect to run good times.

C6s walk them from a high speed roll and that is do to being light and aerodynamic. Thats like a pickup truck racing a semi-truck. From a dig its another story the Cobra will beat the LS2 but the LS3 on the other hand should take the win.


Sorry but a LS2 C6 will walk a Cobra 2003-2008 from a dig or roll, from a roll it is just a easier and larger gap victory.
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Didn't Evan Smith pilot a stock SVT Cobra to a 12.5 or something like that?

Lastly, you'd be lucky to beat a 1999 Mustang if both cars are stock. Modded, anything can happen.

Stock for stock, you wouldn't beat:

1996, 1997, 1998 SVT Cobra (305 HP), 1999, 2001 SVT Cobra (320 HP), or a 2003, 2004 SVT Cobra (390 HP).

Or:

2003/2004 Mach I, 2005+ Mustang GT

Close race for the Cobalt:

1999 - 2004 Mustang GT.
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Originally Posted by husker/sc

As for LS1 F-Bodies and GTO's they are mid to high 13 second cars on average accross the board. When figuring only perfect runs I would call them low 13 second cars.
Don't even group the LS1 f-bodies in with GTslOw's. My 02 went 13.6@106 bone STOCK with shitty 3.23's. No LS1 gto will even come close to matching that.
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Originally Posted by 04Venom
Didn't Evan Smith pilot a stock 2003 SVT Cobra to a 12.5 or something like that?
12.4, I believe...


Originally Posted by Onyxd04Redline
Don't even group the LS1 f-bodies in with GTslOw's. My 02 went 13.6@106 bone STOCK with shitty 3.23's. No LS1 gto will even come close to matching that.
Yeah, an LS1 F-body is more comparable to an LS2 GTO.
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Originally Posted by husker/sc
Sorry but a LS2 C6 will walk a Cobra 2003-2008 from a dig or roll, from a roll it is just a easier and larger gap victory.
No they don't walk a Cobra its really a drivers race with advantage to the Cobra from a dig. THere is no walking by either car from a dig.
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Yea I'm pretty sure now it wasnt the 03-04 cobra. And btw I have stage 2 and an intake for the guy talking about stock to stock.
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Originally Posted by 04YellowGT
No they don't walk a Cobra its really a drivers race with advantage to the Cobra from a dig. THere is no walking by either car from a dig.

Thats some pretty wishfull thinking there, the C6 would walk the Cobra from a dig even on the stock runflats!

A LS2 GTO stays with a 03-04 for a few gears and a LS2 C6 will walk a GTO.

Just face it the C6 is faster.

Originally Posted by Blainestang
12.4, I believe...




Yeah, an LS1 F-body is more comparable to an LS2 GTO.


Sorry I didn't mean to mention the LS1 GTO with the LS1 F-Body.

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Originally Posted by husker/sc
Thats some pretty wishfull thinking there, the C6 would walk the Cobra from a dig even on the stock runflats!

A LS2 GTO stays with a 03-04 for a few gears and a LS2 C6 will walk a GTO.

Just face it the C6 is faster.
What do you consider walk, 1-2cars? Thats about all a LS2 is going to put on a Cobra with equal drivers.
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Originally Posted by 04YellowGT
What do you consider walk, 1-2cars? Thats about all a LS2 is going to put on a Cobra with equal drivers.

1-2 cars by 80mph and continuous pull after that is a good walking in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by husker/sc
1-2 cars by 80mph and continuous pull after that is a good walking in my opinion.
In 1/4 mile yes, to 80 no. Top end those cars are sick even in stock form and from an 80mph roll theyd walk a cobra but from a dig a Cobra is going to put up a fight till 100mph.
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I agree.


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