Blainestang

The '05+ GT's are significantly faster than the 99-04's. Comparing two manual transmission cars, the '05 makes ~40whp more than the '04 and weighs 100-200 lb more or so. Good driving in an '04 yields low-14's in an '04 and mid-13's in an '05+.

If you're making 270whp, though, you should compare favorably to even the '05 considering you weigh significanly less than it. It's only chance would be if he could really hook from a dig. What kind of times are you running, btw?

InfinityzeN

Heavier, but have a lot better engine power curve.

Lithium

For one they must have our weight severely off in the mags cause I weighed the car with a 1/4 tank and me in it at the scales here in town and I weighed in at 2984, but the mags all say anywhere from 2950-3200. I've only seen one put it at 2780.

I have yet to run at the track, but my numbers wouldn't be that impressive up here anyway. Our track sits at 5200'. Or normal D/A is between 5500-7500' so......

monkeiboy

My bad, I thought 2004 was the new model stang. Those were the anniversary edition.
In that case, yeah. 18k is about right.

Blainestang

I wanna say that curb weight includes the car being topped off on all fluids and such, and maybe a couple other qualifications. So, in my car, the tank is ~15 gal and gas weighs somewhere near ~7lb/gallon, so that's a little over 100lbs right there. That could be part of the difference. Who knows.

With regard to 1/4-mile times, you could always use the correction factors for your DA, but yeah, it would definitely be better to just race at a track that's nearer to sea level. Seems more legitimate that way... to me at least.

R&C_rallySS

I love beating those slow stangs! They always think just cuz they have a GT they are fast! Keep up the good kills!!

pvirga88

I haven't had an experience with a GT yet. but I raced a V6.
I gave him about 3 to 4 cars to make him feel special at first then I creeped up an him and passed him like he was standing still. He couldn't catch me after that. I had to slow down to about 100 mph just to let him catch up a bit. We bothed pulled over and was bullshitting for a while. He had a Borla Exhaust and a Cold Air Installed on his. My Cobalt SS/SC is Bone Stock. He couldn't beleive it. He wants me to race his friend with a 02 Stock GT. After reading all of these discussions I know I have a good chance in beating him.

Blainestang

Yeah, you probably have 40-50 whp on a 99-04 5-speed V6 Mustang and a little weight, too.

With regard to the '02 GT, if it's a 5-speed, the GT would have a slight advantage from a dig to ~100, but if you can outdrive him, you can certainly pull it off. If you could get him to go from a roll, you'd be in better shape.

Good luck...

Waylin22

nice kill!!11

DSMissed

well also, those Mustangs are older and some probably have a lot of hotrodding miles behind their belt already that might affect their performance

Oh My God....did I just stick up for a Ford? Woah, I've crossed the line now...

Awesome kill, thats my goal car to beat while I'm stock.

nanaki

nice kill. the roll certainly tilted the odds in your favor.

codyss

From a dig the 99-04 GT is easy to launch and can easily get a stock SS/SC in the 1/8.

But for some reason all GT's seem to just plain blow from a roll and during high speed action. The SOHC 4.6 in the 99-07 GT is a 1/8 mile engine.

Back when I had my LT1 Firebird the 1999 GT just rolled out and they were eager to play. From a dig it was close with a slight advantage to the LT1, but from a roll the LT1's waste the SOHC 4.6 both my LT1's were autos and one had 2.73 gears too.

nanaki

i'm actually agreeing with you there, cody. new edge GTs are pretty shatty from a roll. my car was such a dog.

i read before you said the power and torque curve sucks in the SOHC. that's actually not completely true. if you grab a dyno printout from a 99-01 cobra or 03/04 mach 1 and put it next to a 99-04GT, the torque curve is much smoother and nicer on the SOHC.

chevysalesman614

i raced an 06 stock for stock at the track and got powned by a full second. he ran 13.7@ 102 i think, and i ran 14.7 @ 97

i dont know what engine comes in an 06 gt,but that was no 1/8 mile car man.. he just kept walking away down the track

8cd03gro

dude you really need to do some reading before you say stuff like this. s197's 4.6 = 3 valve, totally different engine.

nanaki

it's a 3v SOHC

8cd03gro

"The SOHC 4.6 in the 99-07 GT is a 1/8 mile engine"

"THE" and "A" = singular and the 4.6 in the s197 is very different from the 4.6 in the new edge's.


that is what i was talking about.

nanaki

my bad. i thought you were saying it isn't a SOHC. i didn't see the part where cody was putting all the motors in the same little circle. it's more like 96-04, not 99-07.

8cd03gro

99+ had the pi heads tho.

im just trying to keep the facts straight. the new 4.6 is very different from the old one, and the new 4.0 is nothing like the old 3.8....at all.

nanaki

i know it had PI, but other than that, it's the same engine. PI swap a 96-98, and you get the same power (actually a little more).

yeah, i know what you were saying now. i didn't really read into it like i should have. the 3v is a completely different mammal.

Freakenhye

The guy i raced was a five speed. And i whipped his ass like he was 2 yearls old and got cought with his hand in my cookie jar.

Blainestang

Yeah, anything can happen... and it does.

However, the 99-04 5-speed GT is capable of slightly faster 1/4 mile times than an SS/SC is when you're talking stock vs. stock.

codyss

Guys I know the S197 4.6 was a 3V SOHC.

But like the 99-04 SOHC it lacks power from a roll.

yellowcobaltss05

mustangs are slow unless they are blown. I raced one with full exhaust(header, x-pipe), intake and a tune and i walked him from a dig after i got traction.

8cd03gro

tell that to a lightly modded mach 1.