06 E85 ION Redline vs 09 GMS1 Cobalt SS/TC
#302
We should get this guy to go to the track! We should try and set a date. I'm only 25 minutes from Union Grove. I'm not saying my cars fast because it's not but I'd like to see a Cobalt that's faster than mine at Dagrove for once!
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#309
What were you up to over the weekend? Dust off anymore Cobalt girlie's
Mike
#310
#311
I am also tuning an E85 SS/SC. So now there will be one more blower car on the road to beat up on the turbos...
Good question! 3 Reasons.
1. I did not want to make the fuel system upgrades in order to run the man pulleys on the TVS with E85.
2. I wanted to see what a properly built M62 LSJ was capable of.
3. I can't seem to get the term "Twincharged" out of my head.
So I sold the TVS with the intentions of taking a year off of mod'ing to do some more research on what I wanted as my "final" setup. I'll be honest, with all the Turbo, Turbo, Turbo talk on this forum over the past 2-3 years I was thinking about jumping ship.
But now that I have experienced the powerband difference between the Blower and Turbo cars there is no way I could ever go straight turbo. Turbos put out big sexy tq/hp numbers but I would rather have a blower car with less of each because it is going to win in a race.
#314
ppl are stupid if you think blowers are better than turbos. It's plan fact turbos are more efficient. Blowers are parasitic, they require HP to make HP while turbo induction is fed off of exhaust gasses. Turbos now a days have vastly improved. If you get a turbo car that has too much lag then the user picked the wrong turbo for his application. Problem is most ppl don't know how to read a compressor map and just stick a large turbo on and expect huge gains.
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#318
Good question! 3 Reasons.
1. I did not want to make the fuel system upgrades in order to run the man pulleys on the TVS with E85.
2. I wanted to see what a properly built M62 LSJ was capable of.
3. I can't seem to get the term "Twincharged" out of my head.
So I sold the TVS with the intentions of taking a year off of mod'ing to do some more research on what I wanted as my "final" setup. I'll be honest, with all the Turbo, Turbo, Turbo talk on this forum over the past 2-3 years I was thinking about jumping ship.
But now that I have experienced the powerband difference between the Blower and Turbo cars there is no way I could ever go straight turbo. Turbos put out big sexy tq/hp numbers but I would rather have a blower car with less of each because it is going to win in a race.
#319
Come on man, it's got a big wing. It can't be fast http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBrZem9zEqIMike
Not ALL Turbos are better then ALL Superchargers. And not all Superchargers are better then all Turbos. Keep an open mind.
The truth is that as a factory power adder the M62 is just as good as the K04.
I will still have some fun stuff happening this year.
#320
SO SO SO SAD, doesnt anybody race like a true race should be, from a dig, i mean come on, you never can see how a car truely is from a roll, roll races are completely ****, and roll races are for people who dont know how to launch their car at all LOL, im disappointed that i had to see a race for money or exhaust or whatever be decided in roll race lol LAME
and if u wanted to know, the fastest balt on the site is a BLOWER POWERED COBALT, not a turbo
Oh no you didn't!
See all I see in that statement is Turbo, Turbo, Turbo.
Not ALL Turbos are better then ALL Superchargers. And not all Superchargers are better then all Turbos. Keep an open mind.
The truth is that as a factory power adder the M62 is just as good as the K04.
I will still have some fun stuff happening this year.
See all I see in that statement is Turbo, Turbo, Turbo.
Not ALL Turbos are better then ALL Superchargers. And not all Superchargers are better then all Turbos. Keep an open mind.
The truth is that as a factory power adder the M62 is just as good as the K04.
I will still have some fun stuff happening this year.
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#322
how many times do I have to say this, turbos are more efficient! Bottom line! Pound for pound, they produce better VE and TE. Superchargers are parasitic and require HP to make HP. Why do you think a lot of blown alcohol/nitromethane dragsters are converting to twin or single turbo setups? Because it's more efficient and it doesn't take HP to turn a pulley to create boost.
I had an instructor that races professionally, he has a 57' Chevy Bel Air that was a fully blown nitromethane car running 6.80s in the 1/4mile and he is completely converting to twin turbo setup because he can acknowledge that turbos are better. The blower on his car took 900hp just to turn the damn thing over! Now tell me, is that really efficient? Not only will his car now make more power but getting rid of the huge supercharger will also shave weight.
I'm not trying to bash on the LSJ at all, it's just ppl have to realize turbos are better.
I had an instructor that races professionally, he has a 57' Chevy Bel Air that was a fully blown nitromethane car running 6.80s in the 1/4mile and he is completely converting to twin turbo setup because he can acknowledge that turbos are better. The blower on his car took 900hp just to turn the damn thing over! Now tell me, is that really efficient? Not only will his car now make more power but getting rid of the huge supercharger will also shave weight.
I'm not trying to bash on the LSJ at all, it's just ppl have to realize turbos are better.
#323
how many times do I have to say this, turbos are more efficient! Bottom line! Pound for pound, they produce better VE and TE. Superchargers are parasitic and require HP to make HP. Why do you think a lot of blown alcohol/nitromethane dragsters are converting to twin or single turbo setups? Because it's more efficient and it doesn't take HP to turn a pulley to create boost.
I had an instructor that races professionally, he has a 57' Chevy Bel Air that was a fully blown nitromethane car running 6.80s in the 1/4mile and he is completely converting to twin turbo setup because he can acknowledge that turbos are better. The blower on his car took 900hp just to turn the damn thing over! Now tell me, is that really efficient? Not only will his car now make more power but getting rid of the huge supercharger will also shave weight.
I'm not trying to bash on the LSJ at all, it's just ppl have to realize turbos are better.
I had an instructor that races professionally, he has a 57' Chevy Bel Air that was a fully blown nitromethane car running 6.80s in the 1/4mile and he is completely converting to twin turbo setup because he can acknowledge that turbos are better. The blower on his car took 900hp just to turn the damn thing over! Now tell me, is that really efficient? Not only will his car now make more power but getting rid of the huge supercharger will also shave weight.
I'm not trying to bash on the LSJ at all, it's just ppl have to realize turbos are better.
#325
how many times do I have to say this, turbos are more efficient! Bottom line! Pound for pound, they produce better VE and TE. Superchargers are parasitic and require HP to make HP. Why do you think a lot of blown alcohol/nitromethane dragsters are converting to twin or single turbo setups? Because it's more efficient and it doesn't take HP to turn a pulley to create boost.
I had an instructor that races professionally, he has a 57' Chevy Bel Air that was a fully blown nitromethane car running 6.80s in the 1/4mile and he is completely converting to twin turbo setup because he can acknowledge that turbos are better. The blower on his car took 900hp just to turn the damn thing over! Now tell me, is that really efficient? Not only will his car now make more power but getting rid of the huge supercharger will also shave weight.
I'm not trying to bash on the LSJ at all, it's just ppl have to realize turbos are better.
I had an instructor that races professionally, he has a 57' Chevy Bel Air that was a fully blown nitromethane car running 6.80s in the 1/4mile and he is completely converting to twin turbo setup because he can acknowledge that turbos are better. The blower on his car took 900hp just to turn the damn thing over! Now tell me, is that really efficient? Not only will his car now make more power but getting rid of the huge supercharger will also shave weight.
I'm not trying to bash on the LSJ at all, it's just ppl have to realize turbos are better.