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Old 06-03-2010 | 08:00 PM
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20 pages and a SRT-4 isnt involved..... how things have changed... this though, has been a great thread....
Sorry Mam.

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Hey man, I'm on your side .... I don't doubt it

I just knew this would start a new battle, haha.
That is Mike getting everyone going. I like to tease a little here and there but I don't want to get turbo guys pissed at me. I like all ecotecs.

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this thread is retarted where all on the same team here, we have guys beating lambos vettes, playing with vipers, srt8's and all you guys can talk about it this crappy thread.stop arguing over who beats who and go beat on the riacearonies. gease.
I agree with you.
Old 06-03-2010 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ripped
this thread is retarted where all on the same team here, we have guys beating lambos vettes, playing with vipers, srt8's and all you guys can talk about it this crappy thread.stop arguing over who beats who and go beat on the riacearonies. gease.
Agreed !! This is how I have always felt ....
Old 06-03-2010 | 11:09 PM
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Agreed !! This is how I have always felt ....
ah durka durka durka lol yea same here we shouldn't be "hatin" on eachother we should be "hatin" on the people that hate on us
Old 06-03-2010 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LE5_AJ
...we shouldn't be "hatin" on eachother we should be "hatin" on the people that hate on us

Who dat B?













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Old 06-04-2010 | 04:25 AM
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Who dat B?
Mike
the genesis guys don't like us very much
Old 06-04-2010 | 04:30 AM
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ebristol you shift slow as hell bro, nice kill tho. E85 FTMFW
Old 06-04-2010 | 04:48 AM
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the genesis guys don't like us very much
That Genesis is a cool looking car. No matter what we drive, there will always be A-holes that believe their **** don't stink. Never gonna change. So we try to ignore those clowns and keep having fun














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Old 06-04-2010 | 08:17 AM
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ah durka durka durka lol yea same here we shouldn't be "hatin" on eachother we should be "hatin" on the people that hate on us
Exactly !!

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the genesis guys don't like us very much
That's because they are slowwwww

I find this interesting .... Two of my buddies have Si's, and are both die hard Honda fans. One has a 2000 the other has a 2007. Both of them respect my car, and actually like it (not just because they are my friends). Then you have your typical ass hat Civic owner that automatically hates on Cobalts. I used to think I hated Civics and other Imports, but in my old age I have come to the realization that I just hate the drivers, haha. That's a little off topic, but shows where are attention should be. It shouldn't be battling against which is faster SS/SC or SS/TC, but it should be aimed towards making both platforms more powerful than the competition.

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Old 06-04-2010 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mnatvyc1223
ebristol you shift slow as hell bro, nice kill tho. E85 FTMFW
I know. But I did not "Miss" a shift.

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I used to think I hated Civics and other Imports, but in my old age I have come to the realization that I just hate the drivers, haha.
Old 06-04-2010 | 02:38 PM
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That Genesis is a cool looking car. No matter what we drive, there will always be A-holes that believe their **** don't stink. Never gonna change. So we try to ignore those clowns and keep having fun
Mike
very true and trust me with the people i used go to school with i'm used to it

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Exactly !!



That's because they are slowwwww

I find this interesting .... Two of my buddies have Si's, and are both die hard Honda fans. One has a 2000 the other has a 2007. Both of them respect my car, and actually like it (not just because they are my friends). Then you have your typical ass hat Civic owner that automatically hates on Cobalts. I used to think I hated Civics and other Imports, but in my old age I have come to the realization that I just hate the drivers, haha. That's a little off topic, but shows where are attention should be. It shouldn't be battling against which is faster SS/SC or SS/TC, but it should be aimed towards making both platforms more powerful than the competition.
i like the way you think

though i do think over all the LNF vs. LSJ is a VERY good thing it keeps pushing each branch to be faster then the other and before you relize it we've made some great steps to making our cars faster it's just like me and my buddy do we keep going back and forth and soon enough we have enough power and know how to beat a bunch of other things that come our way
Old 06-04-2010 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by LE5_AJ
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though i do think over all the LNF vs. LSJ is a VERY good thing it keeps pushing each branch to be faster then the other and before you relize it we've made some great steps to making our cars faster it's just like me and my buddy do we keep going back and forth and soon enough we have enough power and know how to beat a bunch of other things that come our way

That way of thinking drives the technology to higher levels and helps everyone today and those that get into these cars later on. It's a win win situation








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Old 06-04-2010 | 03:32 PM
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LSJ/LNF Throwdown ring a bell? I didn't make a throwdown just for fun. There was a reason to the madness.
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I think everything said in here made this a great thread
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
I think everything said in here made this a great thread

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Old 06-11-2010 | 05:43 PM
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So I have had a leaky header and cat-back for the last year.

I fixed everything up and my car sounds and feels better then ever. I wish I could re-do this race...
Old 06-12-2010 | 12:52 AM
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I know how you feel! I just fixed my header leak last friday and it feels so much better!
Old 06-12-2010 | 11:58 AM
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I know how you feel! I just fixed my header leak last friday and it feels so much better!
You too? Some people think I am crazy that I can feel a noticeable difference in power after fixing an exhaust leak.

What header are you running?
Old 06-12-2010 | 12:20 PM
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I know you already know this; the exhaust system is a tuned part of the motor. Lots of people think, lets make it more open & free flowing to make big HP. To a certain point, yes and no. Not so many others understand this.
















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You too? Some people think I am crazy that I can feel a noticeable difference in power after fixing an exhaust leak.

What header are you running?
Yeah i first noticed it just accelerating up hills it seems like it took more gas to get up them, and as the leak got worse my WOT felt weaker and weaker. I didnt really think it would affect WOT much and I just kinda thought I was getting used to how the car felt, but when I fixed it the car seemed like it gave me a whole new kick in the pants

And I am running the Vibrant header and downpipe. I dont think it ever leaked until my friend and I took the cat out and he welded the lower flange on a little crooked, because even though the flex pipe is there it seems like there is still a lot of stress on the upper flange causing it to leak over time.
Old 06-30-2010 | 03:06 PM
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Old 06-30-2010 | 03:34 PM
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Everyone off arguing about something else, somewhere else?













Been kind'a quiet in this thread lately.


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Old 06-30-2010 | 04:52 PM
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Best smiley/emoticon thing ever!
Old 06-30-2010 | 07:42 PM
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Its not to bring the arguing stuff back lol

But heres a difference between a GMS1 lnf vs a 22 psi tune.
Me vs a member here snowblade's GMS1 3rd gear pull , i have trifecta 22 psi tune nothing else. he dont have any bolt-ons either.

from 55mph in 3rd gear. sorry for the bad sound quality, its a 13$ camera lol
For those who wanted to see the difference from GMS1 to a better tune.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW_Wiy_cPNI
Old 06-30-2010 | 08:38 PM
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Where's this guy live? Twin Cities maybe?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se9ry2L4bWY





Just stumbled upon the video...














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Old 07-21-2010 | 05:49 PM
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I got to bump this thread one last time just to add a little more info.

I went to the dyno on 7/20 and here are my results.

Run 1 is the tune I was running when I raced this SS/TC - 294/269
24* of timing with a flat commanded AFR of 11.5

Run 3 is my best run on the dyno - 303/273
25* of timing with a slopping AFR to 12 @ 6k.



So this can give a more clearer picture of what a 294whp/269wtq LSJ can do against a 285whp/320wtq (estimated) LNF.



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