06 E85 ION Redline vs 09 GMS1 Cobalt SS/TC
05-24-2010 | 01:32 PM
#152
I picked up a stock LNF cat-back from the owner of the SS/TC. It will be going on my car in a few weeks.
Watch the vid and let me know what you think.
05-24-2010 | 01:36 PM
#153
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Out of any vehicle forum or group I have been a part of, the cobalt cummunity is by far the most cut throat and unsupportive of one another for this sort of thing. It's just a little disheartening to see a forum that is based off of the same/similar vehicle platform be so unsupportive of one another. Everyone is quick to pull down their zippers and pull out the measuring tape ESPECIALLY when it comes down to the SC vs TC "wars". People also seem quick to point fingers at who ruined this site for whom and who caused the forum to go to **** when the TC's came out, yet the OP seems to have started this whole thread just to add fuel to the fire if for nothing else.
OP... Don't get me wrong, I think your car is sick along with a lot of other LSJ cars. I just wish we could stick to killing the import scene rather than killing our own from the inside out.
OP... Don't get me wrong, I think your car is sick along with a lot of other LSJ cars. I just wish we could stick to killing the import scene rather than killing our own from the inside out.
05-24-2010 | 01:54 PM
#156
good point 09cobaltss1. I support our other members and when a member beats me regardless of TC/SC/NA, it makes me wanna go faster with moar power. Me and my buddy with a TVs go at it all the time with stuff, it's only made us faster! 
Plus when we see other people we can pick on them and make them go
that was a COBALT?!
Plus when we see other people we can pick on them and make them go
that was a COBALT?!
05-24-2010 | 02:01 PM
#157
Out of any vehicle forum or group I have been a part of, the cobalt cummunity is by far the most cut throat and unsupportive of one another for this sort of thing. It's just a little disheartening to see a forum that is based off of the same/similar vehicle platform be so unsupportive of one another. Everyone is quick to pull down their zippers and pull out the measuring tape ESPECIALLY when it comes down to the SC vs TC "wars". People also seem quick to point fingers at who ruined this site for whom and who caused the forum to go to **** when the TC's came out, yet the OP seems to have started this whole thread just to add fuel to the fire if for nothing else.
When I bought my RL in 2007 the RL was being phased out and there where "Rumors" about the CSS getting the LNF. Nothing was set in stone. I owned an 04 ION and decided that I wanted a RL.
What some people perceive as a "decline" in the knowledge on this forum is just the natural progression of these sport compact (entry level) forums. Its happens everywhere on every platform.
In the early years of the SS/SC and ION Redline the cars where being bought by people with money to mod them. They where hard core car junkies with willingness to experiment and learn things about these new cars. The target demographic was 21-26. They were college grads with money.
Eventually those owners grow up, have kids, and sell/trade in their cars for something bigger and better to fit their new lifestyle.
As these cars are getting to their second, third and 8th owner the demographic changes. The new owners are more budget minded. They use their car was a daily driver and don't really care about learning more about what makes the car go. They just want it to be fast and get good gas mileage. And the LSJ gives them that.
Old or new threads, there is enough information on this site to turn anyone into an ecotec expert if they are willing to read and keep an open mind.
I am a prime example of that. I never took an auto course in high school or having any specialty training in the automotive industry.
I am a Business Systems Analyst and like the Network Infrastructure or Software Applications I work on everyday a car is just a series of systems that work together to produce results.
I took the time to research every system to understand how it supports the overall performance of the vehicle. Intake, exhaust, boost, cooling, drivetrain, tuning, etc.
With the information on RLFs and CCS it is very easy to learn everything you need to know.
05-24-2010 | 02:01 PM
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^^lol exactly wantedss/tc... Some good fun competion is always good, but some guys seem to take it either too far, or just the wrong way completely. What's strange to me though is how "dickish" guys come across on here, but when you meet up with them most are cool as **** (there are always a few exceptions of course). Is it just a natural cobalt/ion owner's defense mechanism kicking in due to the lack of credit our cars always get, or are those type of people just drawn to these cars? Maybe a combination? lol
05-24-2010 | 02:20 PM
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I am an LSJ owner who does NOT believe that the decline of this forum, or any ecotec forum, is because of the SS/TC. If GM would have made 08 ION Redlines with the LNF I probably would bought one.
When I bought my RL in 2007 the RL was being phased out and there where "Rumors" about the CSS getting the LNF. Nothing was set in stone. I owned an 04 ION and decided that I wanted a RL.
What some people perceive as a "decline" in the knowledge on this forum is just the natural progression of these sport compact (entry level) forums. Its happens everywhere on every platform.
In the early years of the SS/SC and ION Redline the cars where being bought by people with money to mod them. They where hard core car junkies with willingness to experiment and learn things about these new cars. The target demographic was 21-26. They were college grads with money.
Eventually those owners grow up, have kids, and sell/trade in their cars for something bigger and better to fit their new lifestyle.
As these cars are getting to their second, third and 8th owner the demographic changes. The new owners are more budget minded. They use their car was a daily driver and don't really care about learning more about what makes the car go. They just want it to be fast and get good gas mileage. And the LSJ gives them that.
Old or new threads, there is enough information on this site to turn anyone into an ecotec expert if they are willing to read and keep an open mind.
I am a prime example of that. I never took an auto course in high school or having any specialty training in the automotive industry.
I am a Business Systems Analyst and like the Network Infrastructure or Software Applications I work on everyday a car is just a series of systems that work together to produce results.
I took the time to research every system to understand how it supports the overall performance of the vehicle. Intake, exhaust, boost, cooling, drivetrain, tuning, etc.
With the information on RLFs and CCS it is very easy to learn everything you need to know.
Good point. The import sense is a little slow by me. So I have to take what I can get.
When I bought my RL in 2007 the RL was being phased out and there where "Rumors" about the CSS getting the LNF. Nothing was set in stone. I owned an 04 ION and decided that I wanted a RL.
What some people perceive as a "decline" in the knowledge on this forum is just the natural progression of these sport compact (entry level) forums. Its happens everywhere on every platform.
In the early years of the SS/SC and ION Redline the cars where being bought by people with money to mod them. They where hard core car junkies with willingness to experiment and learn things about these new cars. The target demographic was 21-26. They were college grads with money.
Eventually those owners grow up, have kids, and sell/trade in their cars for something bigger and better to fit their new lifestyle.
As these cars are getting to their second, third and 8th owner the demographic changes. The new owners are more budget minded. They use their car was a daily driver and don't really care about learning more about what makes the car go. They just want it to be fast and get good gas mileage. And the LSJ gives them that.
Old or new threads, there is enough information on this site to turn anyone into an ecotec expert if they are willing to read and keep an open mind.
I am a prime example of that. I never took an auto course in high school or having any specialty training in the automotive industry.
I am a Business Systems Analyst and like the Network Infrastructure or Software Applications I work on everyday a car is just a series of systems that work together to produce results.
I took the time to research every system to understand how it supports the overall performance of the vehicle. Intake, exhaust, boost, cooling, drivetrain, tuning, etc.
With the information on RLFs and CCS it is very easy to learn everything you need to know.
Good point. The import sense is a little slow by me. So I have to take what I can get.
Seriously though, you can't say you didn't post this threat without the intentions of getting some TC guy's panties in a bunch. I mean you did make 2 threads on it, one of which was in the LNF tech section..
lolI tell ya what man regardless of your intentions, it obviously worked.
05-24-2010 | 02:25 PM
#161
Good race Eric. The dude in the balt seems like a cool guy as well. I wish we had more TC's in my area to throw into the mix. We have a few LSJ's but the only SS TC I have seen is a guy in his 30's that never brings it above 4k 
05-24-2010 | 02:31 PM
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05-24-2010 | 03:41 PM
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Seriously though, you can't say you didn't post this threat without the intentions of getting some TC guy's panties in a bunch. I mean you did make 2 threads on it, one of which was in the LNF tech section.. lol
I tell ya what man regardless of your intentions, it obviously worked.
lolI tell ya what man regardless of your intentions, it obviously worked.
SS_carnatic was not being cocky when we talked about setting up some runs. He was confident. And during our 5 minuet conversation he said the word "Turbo" 15 times!
From the tone of the comments from the LNF owners most of them understand that a properly mod'd LSJ is an admiral foe. But then there are still a few who are hating.
Thank you sir!
Yeah he was cool. Except for the fact he is from MN and drives an SS/TC. Other then that... jk
Agreed...
Here we go with the turbo talk again! lol Turbo, Turbo, Turbo...
Correction. Had.
Remember this pic?
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05-24-2010 | 04:08 PM
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05-24-2010 | 04:22 PM
#173
I wasnt saying 30 year old dont drive hard, just this particular one lol. Hell my 30 year old boss drives his supercharged nsx like he stole it! In 10 years when Im 30 you bet your ass im gonna still be modding my cars!
05-24-2010 | 04:24 PM
#174
The TQ from the blower pushed me so far back in my seat that I could barely get the car into 3rd!
I will move my seat up a little further next time.The car could not drive itself. Unless it was Kit from Knight Rider. Which would be totally cool and I probably would have lost because Kit would have went into super pursuit mode and killed me by a train!
05-24-2010 | 04:35 PM
#175
lulz this thread is awesome. All the ricer excuses he didn't nls he didn't brake boost you beat the driver, you have more mods you have a ss/sc you have a wide powerband blah blah blah.... this could go on till the end of the cobalts existence
Bottom Line you WON!!!
Bottom Line you WON!!!