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Old 04-16-2006, 01:08 PM
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youll take him i think. i raced one in my SS/SC 4 times in a row from a stop and from rolls. i **** you not, i beat him by about 15 cars everytime! and i had a passenger and he didnt. my money is definitely on the 2.4 SS
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Does this mazda have mazda's vvt?
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Originally Posted by vanillathrilla
Does this mazda have mazda's vvt?

NO...
Old 04-17-2006, 05:38 PM
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if you don't mind me asking why did mazda put such a poorly designed car with F/I in it only for something to go tick tick boom with anything over 10PSI?
Old 04-17-2006, 06:07 PM
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his car is no longer stock, he has had some sort of exhaust work done, no idea what exactly he did, he wouldnt tell me. debating on whether to race him now or wait until i buy the weapon-r intake
exhaust on a turbo charged car can yield some pretty high hp/tq gains. Since the turbo is spooled and runs from exhaust vilocities. With exhaust the engine will gain power and the turbo will spool faster and can produce higher boost.

It all really depends on what kind of exhaust he has ie. Cat Back, Turbo Back etc etc. How many if any cats were removed with the exhaust system. How restrictive the stock system was.

On Subaru's a turbo-back exhaust can yield anywhere from 25 to 70 horsepower at the WHEELS depending on EM and make/model. I dont know mazda's and what kind of gains but if he has a 70 horsepower gain at the wheels you wont stand a chance even with an intake.
Old 04-17-2006, 06:11 PM
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this is what he told me "i got bigger pipes all the way back and got a magnaflow muffler"
Old 04-17-2006, 06:49 PM
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hmm i dont think that he gained that much from just exhaust..
Old 04-18-2006, 08:40 PM
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so tonite is the moment of truth! i will be heading out to his apartment tonight to hang out for a bit so tonite is when we'll most likely race. i'll report back when i get home
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Originally Posted by sneaky
if you don't mind me asking why did mazda put such a poorly designed car with F/I in it only for something to go tick tick boom with anything over 10PSI?

You would have to ask Mazda that one...
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Originally Posted by CynicX
exhaust on a turbo charged car can yield some pretty high hp/tq gains. Since the turbo is spooled and runs from exhaust vilocities. With exhaust the engine will gain power and the turbo will spool faster and can produce higher boost.

It all really depends on what kind of exhaust he has ie. Cat Back, Turbo Back etc etc. How many if any cats were removed with the exhaust system. How restrictive the stock system was.

By Removing the Cats, a Stock MSP will start to spool a full 400 RPM Sooner and reach Max Boost before 2700 RPM all the way to 6500 RPM with a slight fall off after 6200..
Old 04-19-2006, 03:42 AM
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SO ******* PISSED OFF! I DROVE MY ASS ALL THE WAY OUT THERE AND HE WOULDNT RACE ME! god damnit... he said that he cant believe that i think my cobalt could keep up with his protege and that he has "dusted" plenty of them... so i called him out and told him that he must be scared and he still wouldnt race me... bastard... no idea how pissed off i am
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Originally Posted by elmstreet
SO ******* PISSED OFF! I DROVE MY ASS ALL THE WAY OUT THERE AND HE WOULDNT RACE ME! god damnit... he said that he cant believe that i think my cobalt could keep up with his protege and that he has "dusted" plenty of them... so i called him out and told him that he must be scared and he still wouldnt race me... bastard... no idea how pissed off i am

*****!
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Yeah he just knows that he is a lier and doesnt want to put his foot in his mouth. I bet hes "dusted" some 2.2s and says they were 2.4s.
I raped an orange one on saturday. The stupid kid had a fartcan as bid as a chucky soup can on it sounded like ****.
Old 04-19-2006, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 05REDROCKET
Yeah he just knows that he is a lier and doesnt want to put his foot in his mouth. I bet hes "dusted" some 2.2s and says they were 2.4s.
I raped an orange one on saturday. The stupid kid had a fartcan as bid as a chucky soup can on it sounded like ****.
Def Not a very fast car stock..
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not completely stock anymore, but o well.. he isnt driving down here for a while he says.. which pisses me off so when he comes back down i'll have my CAI and possibly different exhaust
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Originally Posted by elmstreet
not completely stock anymore, but o well.. he isnt driving down here for a while he says.. which pisses me off so when he comes back down i'll have my CAI and possibly different exhaust

You should be able to take him regardless.

200 WHP max on stock internals unless he is willing to risk a motor..
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what a tool.
Old 04-19-2006, 10:12 AM
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indeed.... on a good note, i just ordered an intake 5 seconds ago! should be here in less than a week
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