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Old 01-04-2006, 05:44 PM
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uh, I hate to say it, but i'm gonna say the s2000 will win but only at higher speeds, i'd say the ss will have him to like 100 and then the s2000 will pull past him. it'll be a good race nonetheless. i just know that rsx type s's are pretty close to you guys with just bolt ons and a s2000 rips a type s pretty good unless the type s is decently modded.
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Holy ****, Look up the stock rated 1/4 time for a 2000 S2000. I did and it was a 14.45. That is slower than a Cobalt. Case Closed. The S2000 may play catch up a little when you get around 100-120 mph but I still don't think it will pass you
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Originally Posted by BooSSted
Holy ****, Look up the stock rated 1/4 time for a 2000 S2000. I did and it was a 14.45. That is slower than a Cobalt. Case Closed. The S2000 may play catch up a little when you get around 100-120 mph but I still don't think it will pass you
Are you kidding me? Alot of people on this site are truly under the belief that pulling a 14.5 in a stock cobalt is such an easy task. There are a couple members here who did it so that means they also can do it. So let me ask you this my friend have you ever been to a track? And if so than please post that slip of you running quicker than a 14.5 stock. If not please step away from the keyboard your making your self look stupid over the internet with unprovable and unfounded statments. First it was 350z's and now s2000's. Were starting to sound like the srt-4 guys back in the day except they had the power, Tq, and gearing stock to get the job done. And had slips to back up there statments. Us? God only knows where some of you guys are getting your facts from.
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This should be an interesting race. Get it on video camera if you can, It'd be great to see the outcome.

I think you should be able to take him from a dig if you get your launch just right. He has the advantage of RWD, but he also has the serious disadvantage of no low end torque. So if you can launch hard and grab traction, you'll easily destroy him off the line. Chances are he's not going to launch an S2K anywhere near its powerband (unless he wants to destroy his clutch) so he'll be off to a rather slow start if he takes off at any reasonable RPM. Use that to your advantage, as he's bogging off the line, rip through first and grab second before the rev limiter, and you should be able to keep the lead throughout the race.

Good luck and keep it safe
Old 01-05-2006, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Darksun280
Are you kidding me? Alot of people on this site are truly under the belief that pulling a 14.5 in a stock cobalt is such an easy task. There are a couple members here who did it so that means they also can do it. So let me ask you this my friend have you ever been to a track? And if so than please post that slip of you running quicker than a 14.5 stock. If not please step away from the keyboard your making your self look stupid over the internet with unprovable and unfounded statments. First it was 350z's and now s2000's. Were starting to sound like the srt-4 guys back in the day except they had the power, Tq, and gearing stock to get the job done. And had slips to back up there statments. Us? God only knows where some of you guys are getting your facts from.
Keep up the good fight.

S2000 all the way with a capable driver, Honda's come with great clutches so he can launch hard. S2000s can and do run 13s all the time.
Old 01-05-2006, 01:22 AM
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I can actually settle this.
This was a Bone stock 2005 S2K.
I raced once from a 30 roll all the way up to 110. I got an instant 2 cars and he hung at 2 cars all the way up to 110. That six speed seems like a bitch to shift even with the redline at 8,5k. Thats the truth. I shifted perfect of course, but ot 100% on him but it seemed he was smooth.
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Originally Posted by SwizzDSMSS
I can actually settle this.
This was a Bone stock 2005 S2K.
I raced once from a 30 roll all the way up to 110. I got an instant 2 cars and he hung at 2 cars all the way up to 110. That six speed seems like a bitch to shift even with the redline at 8,5k. Thats the truth. I shifted perfect of course, but ot 100% on him but it seemed he was smooth.
One experience makes it so for all races???
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
uh, I hate to say it, but i'm gonna say the s2000 will win but only at higher speeds, i'd say the ss will have him to like 100 and then the s2000 will pull past him. it'll be a good race nonetheless. i just know that rsx type s's are pretty close to you guys with just bolt ons and a s2000 rips a type s pretty good unless the type s is decently modded.
100mph is a 1/4 mile! So your saying the cobalt will win . Anyways, its a honda, so of coarse its lacking TQ. I beat s2000 all the time at the track but its 1/8. But i still always have better 60' times. So i say that you will have a better chance from a dig. Exspecially since you dont think he can drive all that great. Just make sure you have practiced your lanches.
p.s. Race him at the track that way there isnt any BS'n. And dont judge it off of just one race. Make it the best out of 3. and VIDEO TAPE IT!
Old 01-05-2006, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by GotBoost?
100mph is a 1/4 mile! So your saying the cobalt will win . Anyways, its a honda, so of coarse its lacking TQ. I beat s2000 all the time at the track but its 1/8. But i still always have better 60' times. So i say that you will have a better chance from a dig. Exspecially since you dont think he can drive all that great. Just make sure you have practiced your lanches.
p.s. Race him at the track that way there isnt any BS'n. And dont judge it off of just one race. Make it the best out of 3. and VIDEO TAPE IT!
Man got me defending honda's now. What the world coming too. Even though hondas lack TQ it is made up for with there crazy gearing. Short gears are a TQ multiplier. After I learned how to understand gearing it pained me to look at some of the honda cars stats. Like even the new civic si. **** is crazy. There's is like an awd cars gearing. There 5th gear is almost similair to our third and there 6th highway spec gear is almost like our 5th gear but still shorter i belive. I don't know how any one would want to drive around normal on that kinda gearing. Downshifting and finding a powerband must be a bitch in around town driving in those cars. Am I crazy in this asumption? Any rsx guys here clear that up for me?
Old 01-05-2006, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by GotBoost?
100mph is a 1/4 mile! So your saying the cobalt will win . Anyways, its a honda, so of coarse its lacking TQ. I beat s2000 all the time at the track but its 1/8. But i still always have better 60' times. So i say that you will have a better chance from a dig. Exspecially since you dont think he can drive all that great. Just make sure you have practiced your lanches.
p.s. Race him at the track that way there isnt any BS'n. And dont judge it off of just one race. Make it the best out of 3. and VIDEO TAPE IT!

Too bad we're in NJ and there's snow everywhere...so no tracks are open. I'm still waiting for a not wet/snowy day so we can do a roll on the highway. I don't want you guys to sit here and argue with each other about it...I just wanted to see what you guys thought.
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Originally Posted by Darksun280
Man got me defending honda's now. What the world coming too. Even though hondas lack TQ it is made up for with there crazy gearing. Short gears are a TQ multiplier. After I learned how to understand gearing it pained me to look at some of the honda cars stats. Like even the new civic si. **** is crazy. There's is like an awd cars gearing. There 5th gear is almost similair to our third and there 6th highway spec gear is almost like our 5th gear but still shorter i belive. I don't know how any one would want to drive around normal on that kinda gearing. Downshifting and finding a powerband must be a bitch in around town driving in those cars. Am I crazy in this asumption? Any rsx guys here clear that up for me?
You can skip gears and memorize where to downshift to. That is one thing I never understand about people complaining about lack of torque or having to downshift to get any power. It isn't that hard.
Old 01-05-2006, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by wasey13
You can skip gears and memorize where to downshift to. That is one thing I never understand about people complaining about lack of torque or having to downshift to get any power. It isn't that hard.
I here yeah when i think about it your right. Well I can also imagine downshifting wrong and over reving. In our car the gears are still kinda tall so you can get saved but imagine a f-ed up down shift in a close gear ratio six speed. You can say to that motor if you do that on accident. I've gone from 4th to 2nd inmine before and it was painfull but still 2nd gear was tall enough it wasn't too bad.
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Originally Posted by Darksun280
I here yeah when i think about it your right. Well I can also imagine downshifting wrong and over reving. In our car the gears are still kinda tall so you can get saved but imagine a f-ed up down shift in a close gear ratio six speed. You can say to that motor if you do that on accident. I've gone from 4th to 2nd inmine before and it was painfull but still 2nd gear was tall enough it wasn't too bad.
I've done it a few times top of 4th gear accidentally went to 3rd instead of 5th. Just VERY quickly got out of it. It didn't bounce off the limiter any of the times. So no harm.
Old 01-05-2006, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by wasey13
I've done it a few times top of 4th gear accidentally went to 3rd instead of 5th. Just VERY quickly got out of it. It didn't bounce off the limiter any of the times. So no harm.
That musta been painfull though still. I know the 3rd gears in your cars are very short so that thing musta tried to peg a redline really quick.
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Originally Posted by Darksun280
That musta been painfull though still. I know the 3rd gears in your cars are very short so that thing musta tried to peg a redline really quick.
Minor whiplash... luckily I haven't done it power shifting. Knock on wood. 1st 2nd and 3rd only drop rpms about 500. 4th about 700, 5th about 1000, 6th about 700 rpms.
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I am still laughing at the S2000 run 13's part.
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Originally Posted by codyss
I am still laughing at the S2000 run 13's part.
http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php...&#entry3250071
I can post tons more. Just like 99-04 Mustang GTs are capable of high 13s stock, so are S2000s.
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Originally Posted by wasey13
http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php...&#entry3250071
I can post tons more. Just like 99-04 Mustang GTs are capable of high 13s stock, so are S2000s.

Who cares. I'd still rather own a Mustang
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please record this race and post it! i wanna see this
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Originally Posted by phxSS
Who cares. I'd still rather own a Mustang
OK what does that have to do with anything? I was just pointing out that the GTs are capable of running high 13s stock contrary to what some people believe just like the S2000.
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Less talk and more action. My words of encouragement "Roast that Honda!"
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The S2000 more than likely will win.... Dependant on drivers though
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Originally Posted by wasey13
http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php...&#entry3250071
I can post tons more. Just like 99-04 Mustang GTs are capable of high 13s stock, so are S2000s.
thanks for posting that...

just thought i would add that, cody is one of those who cant see three feet past his face, so he has to sit REAL close to the screen.

but yeah good luck and let us know how it goes!
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Originally Posted by Dman
thanks for posting that...

just thought i would add that, cody is one of those who cant see three feet past his face, so he has to sit REAL close to the screen.

but yeah good luck and let us know how it goes!
Yeah I know... Like what has been said S2000s are faster cars, but the thread starter says the guy can't drive so this should be a victory for the SS/SC.
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Oh I can see, I just am not one of those people who throw times around like nothing.

If a couple people beat the hell out of a car all day long and run a 13.90 aut most others see 14.4 that by no means makes the car a 13 second car.


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