an0malous

if its spinning the tires in 3rd gear with south of 250whp, they have done something seriously wrong.....or need to pick a new tire.

memphisr24

Mazda is still owned by Ford....

But anyway 3rd gear at 65? I find that hard to belive unless the car has very bad weight distribution. It takes quite a few bolt ons before an srt4 can start spinning it's wheels in 3rd and they are tq monsters......on 205's none the less

And if it DOES spin 3rd at 65....they should go back to the drawing board and start over because that is just stupid.

chevysalesman614

mazda has a reputation for making under-rated garbage. i'm suprised this car actually zooms... the rx-8 is a p.o.s.

memphisr24

I mean, i'm not bashing the car, I would actually think about getting one if they made it in the 4 door sedan version, but there's NO WAY it's spinning 3rd gear. The reason I think they did that is to not have people blowing their axles and getting some decent traction in 1st gear....I still don't know why they would limit 3rd though....or even 2nd...

8cd03gro

how is the rx-8 a pos? for what it was designed for it is a very good car. Nothing like the rx-7's because it isn't a straight line car, but it will rape the living **** out of most faster cars(in the 1320) on a road course. it handles very very nicely.

280 ft lbs is why... If i can spin the tires half way through 2nd with about 250 ft lbs in a car with 3.31:1 gearing, rwd, and almost exactly 50/50 weight distribution, then a fwd car with 280 ft lbs and 3.94:1 final drive for first through 4th gear should definately be able to spin em all the way through second and partly into third without having a driver that knows what he is doing and since most of the people driving em probably dont, it is a pretty good idea to limit 3rd.

memphisr24

Dude, they can't possibly have 280 at the wheels. If so, then yeah I guess but I don't think they dyno 280wtq. I realize they have short gearing but I really don't think they can spin 3rd. Chirp it, MAYBE, spin it, I don't see it happening without mods.

All I know is that if I bought that car, the first thing i'd get is a TBE, CAI, and a tune that gets rid of the boost limit...That would defiantely produce some nice times on a track and nice numbers on a dyno

8cd03gro

im sure it isnt 280 to the wheels those are crank numbers, but they also use a fairly small turbo which leads me to beleive they likely make that torque VERY quickly. wheel numbers are probably around 240 which is still as high as anyone on this site i beleive is it not? not sure. But anyway, short gearing, lets say 240fwtq, might have bad weight distribution, and other factors make me beleive it is very possible they could spin in third. No they are not going to spin em from cruising at 60 and stomping on it, but if they launch, go thru one and two spinning, then hit third they could def keep spinning. Getting rid of the limiter could definately make for better performance with the right driver, but you will be much more consistant with the limters still there unless you are ******* john force. THat is why the limiters are there for consistancy and safety.