06 SS/SC vs. prelude H22
09-18-2006, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by campo165
stuff a ******...ls7 into a solstice and i bet itll give THAT a running (i say solstice since im not sure its even truly possible or worth it to stuff something like that in a balt.
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09-19-2006, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Fueledpassion
he hit vtec in 2nd , Vtec is found in all gears. It's an agressive cam profile that is actuated by the ECU (Engine Control Unit) at a certain RPM. DA.
Bolt-ons don't mean ****. He could have had a DC sports header, CAI, 2.5in exhaust, cam gears(which are worthless on a stock motor), and cheap intake mani and still would've only had maybe 180-185whp, and MUCH, MUCH less torque than your Balt.
On the other hand, he could've used an SMSP header, 2.5in exhaust, AIR intake mani, and AEM intake which would've netted well over 210whp in his case. Making his car significantly faster than before.
Congrats...you beat a car 7+ years older than yours..
Congrats again..you beat the heaviest coupe Honda there has been other than the S2000.
Finally, in reference to the last statement...like I said in the PM to you earlier..when my Honda is finished...I'll come run with you for a day, (or until you've had enough). And trust me...the SC60-1 doesn't give much mercy to anything other than the SC61.
Bottom line..show some respect..there are plenty of Honda, Acura, Mazda, Toyota owners out there that could beat your setup no doubt. Don't think ANY Honda can be taken by a stock Balt SS/SC. Just that one in particular.
Bolt-ons don't mean ****. He could have had a DC sports header, CAI, 2.5in exhaust, cam gears(which are worthless on a stock motor), and cheap intake mani and still would've only had maybe 180-185whp, and MUCH, MUCH less torque than your Balt.
On the other hand, he could've used an SMSP header, 2.5in exhaust, AIR intake mani, and AEM intake which would've netted well over 210whp in his case. Making his car significantly faster than before.
Congrats...you beat a car 7+ years older than yours..
Congrats again..you beat the heaviest coupe Honda there has been other than the S2000.
Finally, in reference to the last statement...like I said in the PM to you earlier..when my Honda is finished...I'll come run with you for a day, (or until you've had enough). And trust me...the SC60-1 doesn't give much mercy to anything other than the SC61.
Bottom line..show some respect..there are plenty of Honda, Acura, Mazda, Toyota owners out there that could beat your setup no doubt. Don't think ANY Honda can be taken by a stock Balt SS/SC. Just that one in particular.
09-19-2006, 09:29 PM
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stock vs stock, the 2.0 WILL beat ANY Honda shipped or built in the USA. BTW, you are bulding the ego of 2.0 owner's by comparing a stock cobalt to a modded Honda
I had the same arguement with one of my friends the other day who's a huge honda fan. I told him that stock for stock that the fastest civic (i.e. the si) would get it's ass kicked by the ss s/c, and then his arguement was that if he took the amount of money i spent buying my brand new cobalt and invested in a used civic that it would destroy my car, granted. But then it wouldn't be a stock car going against my stock cobalt so it's not the same. He got into all the ways hondas are more reliable and that can be made much faster blah blah blah. But still, my only arguement was that no brand new civic could beat my cobalt, that not even the rsx type-s could win. That even the s2000 would have problems beating my car. Of course he was completely against what i was saying and he kept repeating himself. Needless to say it was pretty humourous to see how worked up he got. I was laughin the whole time.
09-19-2006, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by phxSS
stock vs stock, the 2.0 WILL beat ANY Honda shipped or built in the USA. BTW, you are bulding the ego of 2.0 owner's by comparing a stock cobalt to a modded Honda
09-19-2006, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by superSS/SC
That is untrue...
09-19-2006, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by phxSS
I have beaten the Prelude, S2000, '06 si, RSX type-S, and '06 Acura TL. Am I missing another "fast" Honda?
09-19-2006, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TooManyCars
Hot rod mag already built a sostice with the LS7. I believe it ran 10s with traction being a problem..
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hence the reason i made the comment...it had more aggresive cams to blast out 600+ hp and a full carbon fiber body.
09-20-2006, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by phxSS
I have beaten the Prelude, S2000, '06 si, RSX type-S, '06 Acura TL, and Integra GS-R. Am I missing another "fast" Honda?
And just because you beat 1 s2000 doesn't mean you can beat them all, same with the TL.
I ran next to a bone stock one that ran 13.9, when I made a 14.4 pass stock.
And before you ask I went and made sure he was stock.
09-20-2006, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by phxSS
I have beaten the Prelude, S2000, '06 si, RSX type-S, '06 Acura TL, and Integra GS-R. Am I missing another "fast" Honda?
09-20-2006, 12:47 AM
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I still stand by my statement. Honda's are slow stock. And overpriced. RDX? Give me a break! I can't believe you consider that a fast Honda. BTW, NSX no longer exists, so that makes your little list a little shorter.
09-20-2006, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by phxSS
I still stand by my statement. Honda's are slow stock. And overpriced. RDX? Give me a break! I can't believe you consider that a fast Honda. BTW, NSX no longer exists, so that makes your little list a little shorter.
ps- make your sig shorter. thanks.
09-20-2006, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DC52NV
do you even know what the RDX is? you said ANY honda so the NSX counts. i'm guessing you are basing this contest on a straight line cuz i have a much longer list if you are talking about corners.
ps- make your sig shorter. thanks.
ps- make your sig shorter. thanks.
And yes, I said FASTER not better handling. I do give Honda credit for making the si a decent car this time around.
09-20-2006, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by phxSS
I still stand by my statement. Honda's are slow stock. And overpriced. RDX? Give me a break! I can't believe you consider that a fast Honda. BTW, NSX no longer exists, so that makes your little list a little shorter.
09-20-2006, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by campo165
stuff a ******...ls7 into a solstice and i bet itll give THAT a running (i say solstice since im not sure its even truly possible or worth it to stuff something like that in a balt.
09-20-2006, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by phxSS
Hell yea, NSX is badass! 252hp auto tranny for $90k
Automobile 3/94 5.0 13.9
AutoWeek 8/26/91 5.3 -
Car & Driver 9/90 5.2 13.8 @ 102 MPH
Car & Driver 7/98 4.5 12.9 @ 110 MPH
Motor Trend 12/90 5.4 13.7 @ 103.1 MPH
Motor Trend 9/90 5.5 13.9
Motor Trend 1991 NSX Automatic Tranny 8/91 5.8 14.4 @ 93.3 MPH
Motor Trent 7/93 5.6 13.9
Road & Track 8/90 5.7 14.0 @ 100.0 MPH
Road & Track 6/93 5.8 14.0
Sports Car International 12/90 5.03 13.47 @ 105.6 MPH
09-20-2006, 01:12 AM
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Yes. The Acura RDX. 240hp turbocharged SUV. Your point? Also, thanks for building my ego by telling me that it takes a $90k NSX, $50k RL, and a $34k S2000 to even compete with me And yes, I said FASTER not better handling. I do give Honda credit for making the si a decent car this time around.
And yes, I said FASTER not better handling. I do give Honda credit for making the si a decent car this time around.
09-20-2006, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DC52NV
just like chevy needing to put a s/c in their 4cyl to beat honda's N/A 4cyl. goes both ways. oh yeah, forgot to add the 07 TL Type S.
09-20-2006, 10:15 AM
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It's quiet, too quiet.
If you're gonna add the acuras then you gonna have to add the other gm makes as well. Because chevy is gm is it not? But that won't be needed, the corvette would take all the hondas, acuras and whatever else ya wanna add so why bothering comparing the two makes as a whole.
The guy said he could beat any stock honda, and he's right. Is it even fair to compare a cobalt to nsx? I don't think it is.
09-20-2006, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Quicksilver83
Okay, can't we seperate the honda's from the acrua's. Yeah I know it's the same, but the acura is honda's luxary line. I think what my fellow cobalt owner's arguement is that no stock HONDA, ya know the car with the HONDA emblem on the back in front could beat his ss/sc. I gotta agree with him on that. The s2000 would give him or all of us the most competition.
If you're gonna add the acuras then you gonna have to add the other gm makes as well. Because chevy is gm is it not? But that won't be needed, the corvette would take all the hondas, acuras and whatever else ya wanna add so why bothering comparing the two makes as a whole.
The guy said he could beat any stock honda, and he's right. Is it even fair to compare a cobalt to nsx? I don't think it is.
If you're gonna add the acuras then you gonna have to add the other gm makes as well. Because chevy is gm is it not? But that won't be needed, the corvette would take all the hondas, acuras and whatever else ya wanna add so why bothering comparing the two makes as a whole.
The guy said he could beat any stock honda, and he's right. Is it even fair to compare a cobalt to nsx? I don't think it is.
He is not right, he can't beat any stock Honda. I love my SS/SC but to say it is faster than every stock s2000 is annoyingly arrogant and completely untrue.
09-20-2006, 11:45 AM
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I don't think its arrogant thinking that i could beat an s2000. Maybe i could, maybe i can't i haven't had the pleasure. But if the guy said he's beat an s2000 how is he arrogant, maybe he actually did. Maybe the cobalt can beat the s2000.
09-20-2006, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Quicksilver83
I don't think its arrogant thinking that i could beat an s2000. Maybe i could, maybe i can't i haven't had the pleasure. But if the guy said he's beat an s2000 how is he arrogant, maybe he actually did. Maybe the cobalt can beat the s2000.