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Old 11-08-2006, 01:33 AM
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06 ss/sc vs turbo celica

k guys i got a quick question seeing as its too cold to race the ******, cuz my tune will prolly blow my motor, but heres my question

hes running a 2001 GT Toyota celica with a nice t3/t4 turbo 55 trim, running 7 or 9 psi w full 3 inch exhaust

will he beat me with my

custom tune, 3 inch boost pulley, full wheel hop mods, full 3 inch catless exhaust, CAI

cuz if its a drivers race i man aswell throw on my 2.6 boost pulley, 60lbers, heat exchanger, and custom meth kit, cuz in all reality, i dont wanna lose, but meh its only my brother in law, hes talking smack that hes gonna eat me alive

he doesnt know about my 2.6 pulley and supporting mods yet though either
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Old 11-08-2006, 01:40 AM
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sounds like a win to me
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cuz if its a drivers race i man aswell throw on my 2.6 boost pulley, 60lbers, heat exchanger, and custom meth kit, cuz in all reality, i dont wanna lose, but meh its only my brother in law, hes talking smack that hes gonna eat me alive

i would say put them all in and make him puke afterwards.
Old 11-08-2006, 01:56 AM
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eh id say with the 3.0 on it would be a good race, id go for the sure win with the 2.6
Old 11-08-2006, 01:59 AM
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As you sit now with the 3" pulley and full exhaust, I'd say that your low end loss in tq may equal his turbo lag from the start. With or without the 2.6 I believe you would take him, but I'd put the 2.6 on and let him know whats up.
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he has the right celica to turbo too, the GT turbos very nicely compared to the GT-S like i used to have.
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Hes runing low boost making between 195-240whp, take into consideration the celica weighs nothing like 2500lbs, the stock motor on the celica can hold about 11psi safely, i say it would be a good race, race and find out, btw i use to own a celica.
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I raced an older celica that was turbo charged. the older body style that resembled a ford probe, ya know what i mean? I was kinda dissapointed by the power it made. He couldn't have been pushing much boost tho the waste gate started screaming as soon as he hit the gas. needless to say I won, but it was fun
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Originally Posted by bluecobaltss06
I raced an older celica that was turbo charged. the older body style that resembled a ford probe, ya know what i mean? I was kinda dissapointed by the power it made. He couldn't have been pushing much boost tho the waste gate started screaming as soon as he hit the gas. needless to say I won, but it was fun

I like the older body style the 94-99, i had an 04, the thing to watch out for with the older celicas, was the 94-99 celica gt-four, made in japan, never came to america, all wheel drive turbo.
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Originally Posted by celicacobalt
he has the right celica to turbo too, the GT turbos very nicely compared to the GT-S like i used to have.
if i didn't know anything about the 7th gens i would believe that. just because the GT has lower compression than the GT-S doesn't mean that it's easier to boost. The GT has a weak engine. @ 9 psi you might be pushing a lil over 200whp but around 300 whp you will have problems!!! a GT-S @ 6 pushing around 250 and can handle 400whp+ on stock internals. point: GT-S has stronger internals and can take the abuse!!!

http://monkeywrenchracing.com/mwr_celica_gts.html

check this one out.. and yes it still have the 11.5:1 compression ratio...
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I say, just put all the **** in to make sure u can take him.
One of my buddies is getting a greddy for his 06 si. I am making sure i will be able to take hiom with my gmppS2, manifolc,catbakc, CAI, 2.9 pulley!!
Old 11-11-2006, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by martinsmu
I say, just put all the **** in to make sure u can take him.
One of my buddies is getting a greddy for his 06 si. I am making sure i will be able to take hiom with my gmppS2, manifolc,catbakc, CAI, 2.9 pulley!!
i agree.. a turbo GT is nice but they lack up top. it should be a close race right now.. but if you want to distroy go ahead and put everything on.. but don't think that one can't beat you...
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i always wanted the AWD turboed celica! that thing is awesome
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yea.. those Altracs are beasts!!!!
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Originally Posted by bluecobaltss06
I raced an older celica that was turbo charged. the older body style that resembled a ford probe, ya know what i mean? I was kinda dissapointed by the power it made. He couldn't have been pushing much boost tho the waste gate started screaming as soon as he hit the gas. needless to say I won, but it was fun
Yeah i wasn't impressed by them either. I raced one at IRP a month or so ago and we were dead even.
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Originally Posted by sunfirejoe
cuz in all reality, i dont wanna lose
it won't be the end of the world!! Celicas are not really all that feared.. what kit does he have on that thing?
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Originally Posted by martinsmu
I say, just put all the **** in to make sure u can take him.
One of my buddies is getting a greddy for his 06 si. I am making sure i will be able to take hiom with my gmppS2, manifolc,catbakc, CAI, 2.9 pulley!!
I can guarante you =, you will NOT take your friends SI with those mods. You need 2.6 meth injection catback header and intake to at least keep up with him. Cmon man that si is going to be well over 300whp.
Old 11-11-2006, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ljavy17
I can guarante you =, you will NOT take your friends SI with those mods. You need 2.6 meth injection catback header and intake to at least keep up with him. Cmon man that si is going to be well over 300whp.

you're saying that you believe a greddy kit will add 130 hp????

the new SI's stock have about 170 hp (my brother has one).... throw on a turbo with no supporting mods and you maybe have 220, 230 hp

i say the SS/SC wins with stage 2, 2.8", and exhaust/cai
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Originally Posted by sethallen
you're saying that you believe a greddy kit will add 130 hp????

the new SI's stock have about 170 hp (my brother has one).... throw on a turbo with no supporting mods and you maybe have 220, 230 hp

i say the SS/SC wins with stage 2, 2.8", and exhaust/cai

i disagree...if that turbo kit is done right that si will be deadly and put down far more than 230fwhp, probably around 260+
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the K20 putting less than 230 w/a turbo kit??? negative, its will be at least 250whp.
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Well after reading this thread, at my moms house, I was on my way home, and what did I run into. A right-hand drive Celica GTFour.

I researched it a bit after I played, figure it was the 5th Gen ST185 running around 205hp stock either from the UK or Japan. Alot of conflicting numbers I found, but it was WAY better off the line, as traction > cold Pirelli's. Had great power until the top end where I started pulling away slowly. Couldnt tell of any mods, but he turned off on me after a 3rd go.

Quick car for probably 15 years old!
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Originally Posted by celicaGT-ST
the K20 putting less than 230 w/a turbo kit??? negative, its will be at least 250whp.

even if thats true...$5k for turbo + $22 for civic = $27k

250 hp is NOT a lot for $27K
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Originally Posted by sethallen
even if thats true...$5k for turbo + $22 for civic = $27k

250 hp is NOT a lot for $27K

omg you are starting to sound like the evo owners....stop while you still can because you will just start a dumb argument with no end. there are a few reasons.
1. 250 WHP will be faster in that civic than in a cobalt.
2. 250whp is actually closer to 275hp.
3. i can make the same argument with any car. hell i could build a 5.0 or an old camaro bought for 8 grand, built with 6 grand and run in the high hundreds (say 800) and rape any car you put up against me, but i dont say your 205hp isnt high for 20ish grand.


just stop it you will only look like an idiot.


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