BoostedYards86

with ur mods you should be solid 14 flat no doubt, with some dippage in the upper 13's. I have yet to see new civics especially the 4dr ones go any faster than mid 14's around me with those mods. I would assume he has an aggressive tune or even a lil bit of spray going on there. If not then he has a "factory freak."

06SS ALL DAY

well thank you guys for making think i wasnt going crazy. lol i was just like he only has a header and exhaust. its impossible to be that quick. lol i beat my good friend Chris's rsx type s i/h/e. when i was running a 3.1 pulley with NO pcm or injectors and he is an OK driver and had the rsx for a year and ˝. so he must of learned how to race it good enough. but when i'm runing my boys civic i'm like HOW!! lol thanks guys. i'll take your guy's word for SLOW SHO i mean a member since 2006 with 900 post's... riiiight

there is no bottle i've seen his trunk and backseat etc... before... even his motor. no weird lines running anywhere... i think he is tuned and is playing kiss and dont tell... did i get that expression right? lol

SS4ME

SloW is one of those ultra-intelligent GTO owners with a superiority complex. He pops in to troll every once and a while. He never brings anything worth while to the conversation.

06SS ALL DAY

ok i gotcha... i'll just add him to the ignore list. so do you think a 2.9 pulley will make a difference at all?

OntarioKev

If you're pulling 50% boost through all of first gear, that will really slow you down. I don't have my chart on this computer, but nowhere did I take 50% out of first gear, and by the time you get up to redline I think I was up to like 80% of boost.

I was experimenting at the track until I got the best launch.

You could really feel it around 5500 and up if you took too much boost out you lost a lot of time.

Kevin

PhantomSS

its all in the tune but going from a 3.0 to a 2.8 didnt help me at all. It didnt hurt either, hence why i left it. Running high timing on a 3.0 to a drop in timing on a 2.8 made negligable difference.

Anyway i raced a 2 door civic si, cammed, tuned, full exhaust, and other bolt ons under the sun and still destroyed him like he was standing still. I dunno man but like i said before, the k20 cant take n2o for long. Saucing those things lead to bad results later.

Staged07SS

iTrader: (25)

a 2.9 should make a good difference .... nothing huge, but the blower will wind up a bit faster and should bring out the torque a tad earlier .... my 2.99 stage 3 pulley gave me a little bump in power ..... boosts a tad quicker then the stage 2 pulley in the lower rpms.

383_Stroker

iTrader: (3)

He's spraying.. or your car is sickly

chris88z24

I **** all over those cars, dig, roll, reverse, etc.

Something is off, or you think you can drive but really can't.

06SS ALL DAY

no my car is fine i did the dynolicious before and after on friday when i went from pretty much stock to full stage 2. i ran a 14.127 or something on a ź mile. went from 214 hp/ 205 tq to 229 hp/211 tq. so even if the iphone was off because of weight or w.e. me+my friend... i still had gain. just to clarify 383 stroker. but how can he be spraying if there is nothing in his trunk or no weird hose's/swtiches on his dash or in his engine bay... is it just possible he is k-pro'd or hondata tuned and keeping a secret?

when i was stock i used to race him when he was just intake and cat-back and beat him by a car... i also beat a cobalt ss/sc with ingalls/staged 2 clutch/flywheel intake/exhaust... i can drive trust me brotha!

PhantomSS

he have a blower on it?

otherwise it is spray

14.1-14.2@ 100 mph is what i ran with my s2+he+cai

phatnackySS

an si with thoes mods would run a mid to low 14 high13(slicks or awsome driver ...)
unfortunately the ss becomes harder to handle as the power goes up, i myself will bounce from 14.7 to 14.0.

it sounds like hes just killing you on his launch, the si is easy to launch(foot on gas,release clutch, go) its lack of tire shredding tq makes it allot easer to launch than the ss, and the cars are so close in the 1/4 that you just cant rell him in, so once he gets that lead on the launch its over.
the si will trap about 96-99 to run a 14.00-13.9X the stage 2 ss on average will trap 102-104. so you pulling on him in 4th and beating him from a roll sounds about right.

sounds like in this case of the si wining ,you were just being out driven...

take it to the track, and get some nice slips, you'll actually be able to see whats going on.

blackbolt89

that civic must have some freak motor or something. there is no way that it should even be giving you a hard time at all.

elecblue06

iTrader: (1)

he have a backpack or duffle bag ANYWHERE ? theres a few guys on ion forums that run nitrous and you would never know by popping either their hood or trunk... also it's very easy to hide a bottle of nitrous under some rear seats or in the spare tire spot.. WOT/ window switches can easily be hidden

phatnackySS

you guys really underestimates the SI and over estimate the SS lol
if the civic was spraying it would have annihilated the ss

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/autoc...le-thread.html

PhantomSS

sedan is average high 14 almost 15 second car.

sauced....

SS4ME

There is no proof of that in that list. The fastest is the AJP which I'm positive that's a turbo set-up.

phatnackySS

the sedain only weights 68lbs more than the coupe.... that diff can be made up in driver weight easly. it wouldnt make a big diff.



i have friends with si's ,
and when i go to the track i actually talk to other dirvers.
iv seen a stage 2 balt run 15s and iv seen stage 2 balts run high 13s.
iv seen I/H/E si's run 15s and iv seen then run high 13s. with slicks iv seen seen mid to low 13s.


my point is , its not impossible for a ihe civic to run low 14.
and even if the civc runs a 14.5 and ss runs a 14.00 its not enough of a diff to allow the ss to reel in and pass the civic if the civic got the better start.
it takes alot of skill to get the si in thoes times, but it can be done, it has been done.

PhantomSS

either way, my personal experience....

civic si gets handed busses without forced induction. Ive raced ALOT of the new civics. The older b18 hatches on the other hand..... are going to hand something to you.

the rsx and the si both are driver's race vs only a stage 2 balt with the launch going to the cobalt and the civic picking up the last half. (from my experience)

Staged07SS

iTrader: (25)

you are talking about a modded rsx or si as being a drivers race for a stage 2 "only" balt right ?? because stock neither is a match for a stage 2 balt ....

PhantomSS

er crap meant stock vs stock...not stage 2

good catch, sorry at work an pre-occupied. Full bolt ons still made it slower than a s2 balt. Friends on here ive raced quite a bit and never beat them as badly as those N/A k20s. Cammed, bolt ons, etc didnt matter.

Now when they slapped on an m62 or boosted it another way, they did start walking hard....but the k20 doesnt take well to n2o or boost. I see my friend rebuilding his alot by doing it.

Staged07SS

iTrader: (25)

haha i figured that's what you meant man ....

cobaltssredtint

yea i def think he is sprayin too.....cause he mentioned something like that and i thought he was joking ....cause when i race him its a driver race...cause i raced some new si with full bolt ons and a tune and spanked them but he is def spraying

383_Stroker

iTrader: (3)

NOS Sniper kits are made to be hidden...

SLoW SHO

The "no torque" comments simply mean no one is considering how high they rev and what their final drive ratio is. Ignorance at it's finest. This site is full of it.

And to whoever said SS/Na and Si are drivers race, HA! I almost spit my bud light out when I read that.