:ninja:

Brake boosted all my runs..

MS3 has FMIC & Piping, Cobb Stage 1, Cat-back Exhaust, Fuel Pump Internals, HKS BOV.
09 SS Hahn CAI & 3" CBE

Ms3 vs cobalt ss tc - YouTube

i was in 3rd from a 50..

Ms3 vs cobalt ss tc - YouTube
2nd gear 50 break boosting

Ms3 vs cobalt ss tc - YouTube
This one was a 40 if i'm not mistaken


Not bad for what i got..

Justinbart

Looks like you lost pretty bad.

user 72239

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haha @ Brake boosting a k04

not bad runs for being untuned. MS3s are faster stock than SS/TC stock but get a real tune and you will smoke him with Cobb Stg 1

jonathan923

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subd

Dart_SI

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no


once you get a tune op, no stock turbo ms3 should be able to hang either. speaking from experience. unless theyre running corn and youre not.

:ninja:

Only did it cause the throttle response is horrible lol

jonathan923

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where in florida are you located?

:ninja:

Broward.. Hollywood.

user 72239

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Right, thats why I said stock for stock they are faster. the OP has no tune and the MS3 is Cobb stage 1

my wifes cousin has a MS3 and when I was stock and him stock he edged me out just by a bit, now he wont race me

Gobolt210

brake boost is ftw not ftl..
save ur brakes lol
thats a mean ms3, made a beatdown out of a stock lnf

northvibe

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stock for stock? Hmmm... I did beat a ss/tc stock in my stock ms3, even with having to shift one more time than him. I miss the damn car, torq felt way better. But the lnf does take mods with big power gains. But thats just it. You want a nice car without modding, perfect. You want a american rice burner? get the lnf

user 72239

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I disagree. my LNF torque feels way better than the MS3. However the ride quality is so much better and there isnt as much creaks and groans.

jonathan923

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i think stock for stock there both very slow


and i want to find a stock lnf like OPs to run and see how slow my car is too

m33pm33p

Luls at mazda barely pulling on a tune in middle video.

stock vs stock they are dead even.

tc tuned = ms3 down.

Dart_SI

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stock for stock, a ss/tc should win. NLS makes the difference. otherwise its pretty even. NLS is a stock feature, so its fair.

CobaltLs505

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Sub'd

user 72239

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probably, We raced from a dig and I cant launch for **** so I spun real bad and he had maybe a fender on me but we only raced to like 60 since the police station was around the corner.

Cobalt_Daddy

stock for stock it's a pretty even race. driver determines the winner i'd say.

Isamu

Do tuned ms3s still have that feature that limits power in lower gears?

1BADSS/SC

Both looked slow to me

OP needs a flash

northvibe

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it also has to do with torq vectoring of the wheels. I think the new tunes can remove it. But when you have that much torq most people limit it, but raise it up some.

Um a stock lnf? hell no. The ms3 felt like it had WAY more pull. If you are talking gmstage 1 lnf, then ya then the lnf starts to have some power.

MS3 2 SSTC

i also agree with you. having owned both said cars the LNF torque can be felt more than the MS3 torque..

09BlueBaltSS

Not bad for what u got. Put any kind of a tune on the ss and u will win that one every time

northvibe

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Are you talking AFTER mods? stock for stock the lnf w/o stage 1 is weak as ****.

you guys are all smoking the reefer

user 72239

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Without mods.

When I first drove my LNF I was blown away at how awesome the torque was.

I rode in my buddies MS3 and he gunned it and it didnt' feel all that great.