2.4 SS vs Mustang GT
03-04-2008, 04:46 PM
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The first fuel injected 5L came out in what 1984. What kind of numbers did 4cyl's produce back then?
I love when modern 4cyl guys compare themselves against engines that are 10 and 20 years old. When i was 19 i bought my first car. A beautiful LT1 SS which DESTROYED every 4cyl on the street back then. Type R's? PSH.. NO SOUP FOR YOU.
You want to compare 4cyl's today? Compare them to TODAY'S V8's...LS3 : 450hp, 450lbs of torque
LS2 : 400hp, 400lbs of torque
4.6L 3V : 300hp, 300lbs of torque{i think?}
Not...
LT1 : 285hp, 350lbs of torque
4.6L 2V : 215hp, 300lbs of torque
4.6L 4V : 305hp, 320lbs of torque
03-04-2008, 04:49 PM
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The first fuel injected 5L came out in what 1984. What kind of numbers did 4cyl's produce back then?
I love when modern 4cyl guys compare themselves against engines that are 10 and 20 years old. When i was 19 i bought my first car. A beautiful LT1 SS which DESTROYED every 4cyl on the street back then. Type R's? PSH.. NO SOUP FOR YOU.
You want to compare 4cyl's today? Compare them to TODAY'S V8's...LS3 : 450hp, 450lbs of torque
LS2 : 400hp, 450lbs of torque
4.6L 3V : 300hp, 300lbs of torque{i think?}
03-04-2008, 04:54 PM
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It just keeps me smiling when I find out that my car is quicker than I previously thought. But now of course, I want to be faster . My next goal is my brothers 5.7l GTO 
I think I can hang with one more mystery mod that I have up my sleeve
. My next goal is my brothers 5.7l GTO I think I can hang with one more mystery mod that I have up my sleeve
03-04-2008, 04:55 PM
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What the hell are you talking about? I'm not comparing 4CYL's to V8's, I was stating the fact that compared to other cars, EX:camaro LS1, even the 2007 mustangs cant compete with the 10 years older 1998 LS1's. Ford decided to go low displacement for the 93-07 or whatever years the GT's were 4.6L, chevy went 5.7, it was no contest when they go stock H2H.
03-04-2008, 04:55 PM
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well you missed the boat pal. The joke is that you think any 2.4 without a power adder on this board should be a drivers race for a new edge 4.6 from any roll or dig. You are talking about a low 14/ high 13 second car vs a mid 14 second car at BEST (VERY BEST). it's ok though i mean this is the infamous war stories section where 12 sec vs 15 sec is a drivers race that could go either way.
03-04-2008, 04:56 PM
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I don't really understand why ford didn't use the 5.4L 2V in the Mustangs from 96 on. If they did the mustang vs camaro wars would have been so much closer. There are guys doing 5.4L swaps into there older mustang GT's and pulling 300+ hp and 400+ torque. That would have been badass back in the 90's. I would have bought a mustang GT if it would have had the 5.4L
03-04-2008, 04:58 PM
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i bet your car would take mine from a roll "hands down" that's basically what he is saying with a 2.4 vs a 4.6 (he was referencing new edge) from a roll is the 2.4 hands down. That's like saying a 2.4 vs a 2.0 from a roll is the 2.4 hands down. WTF?!
03-04-2008, 04:59 PM
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new edge will mop the floor they trap 96~100. a great race for a stock ss/sc
new edge will mop the floor they trap 96~100. a great race for a stock ss/sc
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well you missed the boat pal. The joke is that you think any 2.4 without a power adder on this board should be a drivers race for a new edge 4.6 from any roll or dig. You are talking about a low 14/ high 13 second car vs a mid 14 second car at BEST (VERY BEST). it's ok though i mean this is the infamous war stories section where 12 sec vs 15 sec is a drivers race that could go either way.
I'd give them Low-Mid 14's, never seen one pull a high 13 stock, and i'm always at the track. The most impressive i've seen is a 12.9 from a 02 turbo GT.
03-04-2008, 05:00 PM
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because the entire goal for a car company is to make money and ford still out sold the camaro and trans am combined with shittier power plants and over all performance. That's why i'm excited for the new camaro and challenger to come out...more competition = better performance.
What's the line over at the stang forums about them bumping up displacement in the mustangs GT's?
03-04-2008, 05:02 PM
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03-04-2008, 05:02 PM
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well you missed the boat pal. The joke is that you think any 2.4 without a power adder on this board should be a drivers race for a new edge 4.6 from any roll or dig. You are talking about a low 14/ high 13 second car vs a mid 14 second car at BEST (VERY BEST). it's ok though i mean this is the infamous war stories section where 12 sec vs 15 sec is a drivers race that could go either way.
03-04-2008, 05:04 PM
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That was an average, I took all the times I could find (16) and then found the average. The best I saw was 14.3, worst was 15.8 (I excluded that one, didnt seem fair to average in a shitty driver). 15.4 was the highest I used, cause there were 2 people that ran 15.4 then the next closest was the 15.8
03-04-2008, 05:08 PM
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if they go boss, the v6 would get the duratec 6 with 260-270hp, the gt would get the 5.0 (400hp) the gt500 would get the 6.2 (something around 500-550hp) and the super snake would get the 777 (427 with 700hp N/A). The twin forces consist of a tt v6 with something like 400hp and a tt v6 with like 600. either way the hp wars are back in full force and i am ****** excited.
i have no doubt you beat a 98 or earlier, im not arguing with you. it's cobalt thinking even a bolt on 2.4 could keep up with a new edge (99+) from any roll or dig. They trap around 100.
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03-04-2008, 05:09 PM
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rumors. They are either switching to the boss series engines that are actually fairly big (5.0, 6.2 and even the roush 777 which is the most godly engine ever btw) or going to the twin force series which is probably more likely. They would change around the names a bit, but prices per performance would be similar.
if they go boss, the v6 would get the duratec 6 with 260-270hp, the gt would get the 5.0 (400hp) the gt500 would get the 6.2 (something around 500-550hp) and the super snake would get the 777 (427 with 700hp N/A). The twin forces consist of a tt v6 with something like 400hp and a tt v6 with like 600. either way the hp wars are back in full force and i am ****** excited.
i have no doubt you beat a 98 or earlier, im not arguing with you. it's cobalt thinking even a bolt on 2.4 could keep up with a new edge (99+) from any roll or dig. They trap around 100.
if they go boss, the v6 would get the duratec 6 with 260-270hp, the gt would get the 5.0 (400hp) the gt500 would get the 6.2 (something around 500-550hp) and the super snake would get the 777 (427 with 700hp N/A). The twin forces consist of a tt v6 with something like 400hp and a tt v6 with like 600. either way the hp wars are back in full force and i am ****** excited.
i have no doubt you beat a 98 or earlier, im not arguing with you. it's cobalt thinking even a bolt on 2.4 could keep up with a new edge (99+) from any roll or dig. They trap around 100.
People will think that 400HP stock and N/A in a NEON is ******* slow.
some already do!
03-04-2008, 05:09 PM
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Word, I feel ya. Looking back though, I trapped 98 the third time I ever went to a track. Maybe its not so crazy to think that I could keep up with a newer mustang