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Old 12-13-2008, 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Projekt
uhh no i think your still mistaken on this one

then your comparing stock to a boosted vehicle. compare a boosted gts to a turbo 400+ whp cobalt?

i like the GT'S man...but a ss/sc stock for stock will beat one all day long.

the GTS is more of a match up with the 2.4 SS
i think your mistaken.. you are probably thinking about the GT (140hp at the crank). we can go back and forth with this... i can refer you to a sight and you can refer this and that.. i haven't seen a 400+whp cobalt ss/sc not even a vid of one but i've seen a 640whp celica GT-S
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Originally Posted by celicaGT-ST
i think your mistaken.. you are probably thinking about the GT (140hp at the crank). we can go back and forth with this... i can refer you to a sight and you can refer this and that.. i haven't seen a 400+whp cobalt ss/sc not even a vid of one but i've seen a 640whp celica GT-S
noo im not mistaken ok thanks. i meant the GTS like you said puts down what...160 WHP? 2.4L cobalts put that down stock..woohoo.

cool, pat yourself on the back for seeing a 640 WHP celica gt-s. means celicas are better then all cobalts in the world.


spend more time on this site and you will find a few 400+ horsepower Cobalt SS


stock for stock a ss/sc would beat a GTS...no question..your comparing a 215 WHP car to a 160 WHP car.

but hey...people once thought a 2.4SS could take a 2.0
Old 12-13-2008, 03:58 AM
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in no way am i saying that celicas are better than cobalts. i'm just stating that a good gt-s driver will hang and/or beat a ss/sc. of course this is stock to stock. put mods in the mix it all depends on who's pockets are deeper. and believe me the celica isn't cheap!! i'm 13k invested from parts and labor but i'll save that for another thread..
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Originally Posted by celicaGT-ST
in no way am i saying that celicas are better than cobalts. i'm just stating that a good gt-s driver will hang and/or beat a ss/sc. of course this is stock to stock. put mods in the mix it all depends on who's pockets are deeper. and believe me the celica isn't cheap!! i'm 13k invested from parts and labor but i'll save that for another thread..
be more opened minded please, celica's are not gods, learn to know what they can beat and what they cant, dont base this off of one time happenings.

a stock ss/sc vs a celica gt-s. same drivers in both situations, the ss/sc will win everytime, i can promise you that.

im not bias, im usally the first to admit when/what will beat a cobalt...but your GTS will not. sorry mate, you can keep beating a dead horse..but your not going to get anywere
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Originally Posted by Projekt
be more opened minded please, celica's are not gods, learn to know what they can beat and what they cant, dont base this off of one time happenings.

a stock ss/sc vs a celica gt-s. same drivers in both situations, the ss/sc will win everytime, i can promise you that.

im not bias, im usally the first to admit when/what will beat a cobalt...but your GTS will not. sorry mate, you can keep beating a dead horse..but your not going to get anywere
WOW!!! and i need to be more open minded
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Originally Posted by Projekt
noo im not mistaken ok thanks. i meant the GTS like you said puts down what...160 WHP? 2.4L cobalts put that down stock..woohoo.

cool, pat yourself on the back for seeing a 640 WHP celica gt-s. means celicas are better then all cobalts in the world.


spend more time on this site and you will find a few 400+ horsepower Cobalt SS- lolz.
stock for stock a ss/sc would beat a GTS...no question..your comparing a 215 WHP car to a 160 WHP car.

but hey...people once thought a 2.4SS could take a 2.0
one big factor you are both forgetting is the weight of these 2 cars. The gt-s weighs less than 2600lbs, another factor is the gearing (I wont speak about it since I know neither gear ratio). I believe a Balt will win stock for stock, but I cannot say Im certain since I have not seen the two race.
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Originally Posted by celicaGT-ST
WOW!!! and i need to be more open minded
He is right, you are wrong. The GT-S is a 2600-2700 pound car correct? Like you said it puts down about 160fwhp stock. Most cobalt ss supercharged's put down a little over 200fwhp stock. a 40fwhp advantage will not be outweighed by 300 pounds when the ss has a flatter torque curve on top of the major power advantage. A GT-S will not trap 100MPH.
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Originally Posted by Darwin
He is right, you are wrong. The GT-S is a 2600-2700 pound car correct? Like you said it puts down about 160fwhp stock. Most cobalt ss supercharged's put down a little over 200fwhp stock. a 40fwhp advantage will not be outweighed by 300 pounds when the ss has a flatter torque curve on top of the major power advantage. A GT-S will not trap 100MPH.
agreed. how do you like the red? to op: sorry for the thread jack!
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I love it. It's perfect for what I want. A little laggy until you get used to it, but not too bad.
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I love it. It's perfect for what I want. A little laggy until you get used to it, but not too bad.
nice man, congrats! any track times?
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yeah, i've never had an issue with a gt-s in my 2.4.

i'm not saying that they can't be quick, but i don't think that they could regularly whoop an SC. that said, i beat a shelby GT in my car...
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Originally Posted by joeworkstoohard
yeah, i've never had an issue with a gt-s in my 2.4.

i'm not saying that they can't be quick, but i don't think that they could regularly whoop an SC. that said, i beat a shelby GT in my car...
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Originally Posted by evolve
+1.

The Mustang guys are gonna love this one.
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I think he was making that statement to make the point that anything is possible and the fastest car doesn't always win. He knows he shouldn't beat a gt.
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Originally Posted by Darwin
He is right, you are wrong. The GT-S is a 2600-2700 pound car correct? Like you said it puts down about 160fwhp stock. Most cobalt ss supercharged's put down a little over 200fwhp stock. a 40fwhp advantage will not be outweighed by 300 pounds when the ss has a flatter torque curve on top of the major power advantage. A GT-S will not trap 100MPH.
thank you.
Old 12-14-2008, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Darwin
I think he was making that statement to make the point that anything is possible and the fastest car doesn't always win. He knows he shouldn't beat a gt.
is what i was trying to say
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Originally Posted by celicaGT-ST
is what i was trying to say
yeah..he is saying he isnt going to go around and say to everyone Cobalts can beat GT's.


just because you saw one thread post or saw ur buddies GTS beat a SS/SC doesnt mean jack ****. its still a slower car...deal with it.
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your friend must have an EJ22 and for one of the few years they made a turbo legacy (early 90s maybe) kinda cool cars.
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Originally Posted by ggarcia86
your friend must have an EJ22 and for one of the few years they made a turbo legacy (early 90s maybe) kinda cool cars.
yeah i was mistaken when i said ej25. it is a ej22

btw he blew his turbo last night..lol

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Originally Posted by Projekt
yeah..he is saying he isnt going to go around and say to everyone Cobalts can beat GT's.


just because you saw one thread post or saw ur buddies GTS beat a SS/SC doesnt mean jack ****. its still a slower car...deal with it.
GT's or GT-S's??? a GT stand no chance in hell!!! that is a fact. GT-S stand a small fighting chance. that is all. and yes i know a GT-S is a slower car and yes i have delt with that as my mod list shows.
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Originally Posted by Darwin
I think he was making that statement to make the point that anything is possible and the fastest car doesn't always win. He knows he shouldn't beat a gt.
correct, the GT should have romped me. but it was driven by a nice older lady who had just bought it and didn't want to roast the clutch with <1000 miles on the clock.

but the fact remains, that day at desoto raceway, i beat a shelby GT in the 1/4 mile.
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Originally Posted by celicaGT-ST
GT's or GT-S's??? a GT stand no chance in hell!!! that is a fact. GT-S stand a small fighting chance. that is all. and yes i know a GT-S is a slower car and yes i have delt with that as my mod list shows.
a shelby gt..not a FWD econobox celica GT
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Originally Posted by joeworkstoohard
correct, the GT should have romped me. but it was driven by a nice older lady who had just bought it and didn't want to roast the clutch with <1000 miles on the clock.

but the fact remains, that day at desoto raceway, i beat a shelby GT in the 1/4 mile.
But t3h Must4ng c4n n3v4r l00z3!!1!

Nice kill.
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Originally Posted by Projekt
a shelby gt..not a FWD econobox celica GT
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Originally Posted by Projekt
uhh no i think your still mistaken on this one

then your comparing stock to a boosted vehicle. compare a boosted gts to a turbo 400+ whp cobalt?

i like the GT'S man...but a ss/sc stock for stock will beat one all day long.

the GTS is more of a match up with the 2.4 SS
Agreed! Unless the SS/SC owner has issues with driving.


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