cakeeater

...2nd engine? what happened?

Strychnine

Dropped a valve, or so I was told. #1 piston disintegrated and tore the crank up. Replaced under warranty at 30k.

PinaSS

awesome it sounds like a good race.

USMCFieldMP

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This is what cracks me up.

How do you know that the Cobalt SS/SC that you raced didn't just have a bad driver? Same can be said for both cars... as I've seen some REALLY shitty SS Drivers. BUT, I do agree... that a PLAIN GM Stg2 with the GM tune... SHOULD not beat a 6.0L.

Indeed. Just looks at the LS1 Camaro Dyno's. They ranged from 290whp to like 330whp in stock form. I wish I could find the thread on my local forum where we discussed this.

But I would agree that every SS/SC is different as well. Some just put out more than others. Mine is a *****... and puts out REAL good.

Strychnine

Granted, I might be dense, but I really do not see how there is a complex driver element involved with a roll race in a stock LS1 GTO.

SSCobalt~SSZ24

so just cause the a4 will trap a little over 100 and the SS/SC around 98 thats what makes it plausible? Its a ****** street race from 20 to 70 and the balt got a little jump and maybe the gto sucked at driving and so on and so on! anything can happen in a street race thats why it is plausible


good race holding off the goat man

USMCFieldMP

iTrader: (1)

Me too... but at the same time, you'd be surprised at how people can suck at driving stick. But those are usually the people that aren't racing their cars.

jester

Ya thats why it would be a close race, you take away the advantage of the launch from the gto, at their higher speeds it would begin to pull away... so yea I think that explains it... wanna see me race him from 20-70 lawl

Also it would be pretty hard to suck at driving an a4

LittleMT

well, the GTO wasn't racing...... slowpoke.

Strychnine

Very true, but it also would have obvious signs in a race. If he was that bad at shifting, the SS/SC would have gained some ground.

USMCFieldMP

iTrader: (1)

Too true... the Gto would surge forward... and then drop back. I've raced cars like that... I have videos.

Strychnine

Exactly. Based on the description the OP gave, no one gained anything. So there are either two good drivers, or the GTO was an A4. I raced an intake/exhaust SS/SC in my LS2. I would say it was comparable to an LS1 GTO to 90mph, in my area at least. That same SS/SC still lost after he added Stage 2, but he put up a better fight, and he was definitely faster than any stock LS1 GTO I ever ran across.

invisible

Thank you sir. Someone finally admitted it.
I have to take a

Strychnine

Everyone else's experience may vary. I never personally witnessed an SS/SC at all against an LS1 GTO, but I raced several LS1 GTO's (M6 and A4), and I have my experience against an intake/exhaust SS/SC and the same SS/SC after Stage 2. I do not know if he stuck with the GM tune or went custom, or if he was running a smaller pulley than Stage 2. I am more inclined to believe straight GM Stage 2. He was not a member here, and I doubt he did his homework. At intake/exhaust, I would call him even with a stock LS1 GTO, especially in a short race like the OP had. After Stage 2, I would say he was faster than a stock LS1 GTO.

cakeeater

i wouldn't count on that. what's the fastest a stage 2 ONLY car has trapped/et'd? probably nowhere near what some m6 ls1's are running.

USMCFieldMP

iTrader: (1)

Hatrickstu... a 13.3 @ 104mph... and that wasn't as fast as he's ever gone before (that was his first 1/4 run... his local track is a 1000')

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/drag-racing-52/new-stage-2-record-102717/

He will go 12's this year, I guarantee it.

Strychnine

It was not a Stage 2 only car, it was Stage 2 with intake/exhaust. None of those "races" were conducted at a drag strip either. Would have been a very different result there. I would say the average LS1 GTO traps anywhere from 102 - 105. Lower and higher are not unheard of. I know that all of the stock GTO's I played with (LS1 and LS2) were not equal. Some could pull a half car or more on their counterparts, and some ran even. I never ran across a freakishly fast stock LS1, but I am sure they are out there. That particular SS/SC might be a freak too.

jester

Man I hope I can hit 12's
Anyways the races seem to be close but as soon as 100mph comes around it sees like auto or manual the gto begins to pull or catch up or whatever, idk if its gearing or what, but I remember third gear in my ss/sc being quite a bit slower than the others.

invisible

Third gear is actually pretty good once you get staged and get a header, dp, and cat-back.
Fourth gear is where the s/c falls on its ass.
PS. My third gear is what beats gt mustangs.

USMCFieldMP

iTrader: (1)

Why does everyone seem to think that their 3rd gear is slow? Yes, it doesn't pull G's as hard as 2nd... but 3rd is where I usually start Choo-Choo Training away (depending on the car obviously).

And it's because once you start getting into the upper mph range, weight becomes less of a factor, and more HP becomes a BIGGER factor.

Agreed... upper mph of 4th seem to suck ***** in my SS. It just seems like it takes forever to pull.

jester

idk I had a catless full exhaust 2.8 pulley 60lb injectors k&n intake and a tune from Witt and abunch of other **** I prolly forget by now and it just seemed like thats where it started to fall, idk maybe it was just me. But the gto pulls steady all the way through those gears.

Strychnine

The top of 3rd is where my LS2 really shined. 3rd in my SS/SC does not seem as strong as 2nd does, but by that point you are moving fast enough that perception is not really the best measuring stick. 3rd in my LS2 did not "feel" that it punched as hard as 2nd, but it actually punched harder.

invisible

**** I hope it does. If gas and insurance wasn't high on them, i would of got a 6.0

jester

One thing it could be is i didnt have meth so I might have been getting heat soak.. I saw one of you had meth but idk about the other.

invisible

Yea I have meth and It makes a big difference. I can literally hold my hand on the sc and it is just alittle warm after alot of pulls in 90 degree weather.