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Old 05-08-2008, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Strychnine
The top of 3rd is where my LS2 really shined. 3rd in my SS/SC does not seem as strong as 2nd does, but by that point you are moving fast enough that perception is not really the best measuring stick. 3rd in my LS2 did not "feel" that it punched as hard as 2nd, but it actually punched harder.
I noticed that to, my ss/sc had tranny mounts and was lowered 1inch all around and was like a little gocart haha. It felt sooo fast when I got on it, when I test drove the gto I was like well that wasent that fast, then I looked at the speedo. Theres something about the gto idk what... when you hit the gas you dont feel pushed back into your seat, but when you shift you feel yourself getting thrown forward and the front end drops down and when you get on it the exact opposite happens haha



And gas isnt all THAT horrible. I have a pretty big cam in and am around maybe 440whp or so.. will find that out on monday when it gets dynod after my formato tune ... but anyways I get 20mpg right now on average.. I know thats nothing like the ss/sc but its not bad for what it is, the M6 helps though.
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Hatrickstu's 13.3 @ 104 is pretty damn quick for stg2. I believe he had major headwinds at the track that day too. What did he say, he coulda pulled a 13.1 if it were a better day?
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Originally Posted by Sw4y1313
Hatrickstu's 13.3 @ 104 is pretty damn quick for stg2. I believe he had major headwinds at the track that day too. What did he say, he coulda pulled a 13.1 if it were a better day?
What were his 60's, he almost would of had to have drag radials
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Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP
Hatrickstu... a 13.3 @ 104mph... and that wasn't as fast as he's ever gone before (that was his first 1/4 run... his local track is a 1000')

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/drag-racing-52/new-stage-2-record-102717/

He will go 12's this year, I guarantee it.
that's with suspension work and drag radials...edit: and a tune. a stock ls1 with dragbags a tune and drag radials could hit 12's easy in many cases. I'm just saying, i've heard of stock ls1's trapping 107's and running LOW 13's bone stock. sure they are heavier than the fbod which is capable of 12's but they also have quite a bit shorter gearing, and the ls6 intake and a few other minor tweaks.
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
that's with suspension work and drag radials...edit: and a tune. a stock ls1 with dragbags a tune and drag radials could hit 12's easy in many cases. I'm just saying, i've heard of stock ls1's trapping 107's and running LOW 13's bone stock. sure they are heavier than the fbod which is capable of 12's but they also have quite a bit shorter gearing, and the ls6 intake and a few other minor tweaks.
Ya the ls2's can hit 12's stock, but have to play catchup after the launch
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
that's with suspension work and drag radials...edit: and a tune. a stock ls1 with dragbags a tune and drag radials could hit 12's easy in many cases. I'm just saying, i've heard of stock ls1's trapping 107's and running LOW 13's bone stock. sure they are heavier than the fbod which is capable of 12's but they also have quite a bit shorter gearing, and the ls6 intake and a few other minor tweaks.

I have heard of stock LS1 GTO's trapping 107 too, but the average remains 102-105. That is why I said lower and higher is not unheard of. I have heard of 110 being done in a stock LS2. Either way, the trap speeds of both are good for mid-high 12's if they can launch and get traction.

Do keep in mind that my experience with GTO's has all been in Georgia and Alabama, mostly during the summer, and our summers are hot. If my LS2 was heatsoaked, which does not take long at all, the OP could probably hang with or beat it.
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Originally Posted by jester
Ya the ls2's can hit 12's stock, but have to play catchup after the launch
Talk about playing catch up after the launch.....try doing a 2.3 60 But I am getting better. What is the average goat 60?
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Originally Posted by invisible
Talk about playing catch up after the launch.....try doing a 2.3 60 But I am getting better. What is the average goat 60?

60's are hell in a GTO too. That rear is not the best for drag launching, and it takes practice to launch it well. 2.1 - 2.2 is usually what I was getting the few times I took it to the strip. The squat and wheel hop made me hesitant to really try to push it.
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Originally Posted by 04goat
must have been a a4. 6sp would or should have been a different outcome... if your is stock and so was his then props to you for better driveing... personally while mine was stock my son's srt4 stock would not our run my 04 gto stock. and i have raced many cobalt ss and never a loss to one. good run... if you are still stock then port the blower, smaller pulley, better exhaust and it will come alive for sure...
you really don't know how to mod an lsj do you. i don't waste my time with a 5.7 gto.
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Umm with a stock clutch I had a 1.90 60 ft, some say 1.9's can be done by a4's most m6 are 2.1 2.0, mine was a 2.0.
Also I was one of those GTO's that trapped 110 stock, I did it twice, but only ran a 13.5 each run cause I had shitty 2.2 60ft or something.
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Originally Posted by Area47
you really don't know how to mod an lsj do you. i don't waste my time with a 5.7 gto.
cocky a bit? there are quite a few that im sure wouldnt even consider wasting their time with you.
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Originally Posted by Strychnine
Exactly. Based on the description the OP gave, no one gained anything. So there are either two good drivers, or the GTO was an A4. I raced an intake/exhaust SS/SC in my LS2. I would say it was comparable to an LS1 GTO to 90mph, in my area at least. That same SS/SC still lost after he added Stage 2, but he put up a better fight, and he was definitely faster than any stock LS1 GTO I ever ran across.
lol....it was not an A4. Thank you for insulting my intelligence though.

And, I don't consider myself a good driver either. Maybe we are both just average. Who knows.
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Originally Posted by Area47
you really don't know how to mod an lsj do you. i don't waste my time with a 5.7 gto.
Uhh Ohhh You dunn it now.
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Originally Posted by Area47
you really don't know how to mod an lsj do you. i don't waste my time with a 5.7 gto.
I'm 19 years old, in college, making my own car payments, insurance payments, and mod payments. Guess which one of those three doesn't get much attention? Go kill yourself asshat
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Originally Posted by nich7601
I'm 19 years old, in college, making my own car payments, insurance payments, and mod payments. Guess which one of those three doesn't get much attention? Go kill yourself asshat
I don't think he was pointing that towards you bro.
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who cares who he was pointing at. the guy acts like he runs 9's. which coincidentally, some gto's do... but i bet he doesn't waste his time with them.
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
who cares who he was pointing at. the guy acts like he runs 9's. which coincidentally, some gto's do... but i bet he doesn't waste his time with them.
He does have a very respectable LSJ considering he is still using the Heaton and a big pulley.
But I don't want to get in this so I will say no more.
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I don't think he was pointing that towards you bro.
It was quoted on the last page. I no longer have a reason to read the other two pages, because, imagine this, my GTO SSSC thread has been jacked by the fanboys of both clubs. So, when I say I raced a 5.7 on the first page, and he says he's too good to bother with 5.7s on the last page, I take it as directed at me. Which, looking again, I still think it was.
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Originally Posted by invisible
He does have a very respectable LSJ considering he is still using the Heaton and a big pulley.
But I don't want to get in this so I will say no more.
ohhh woooo a respectable lsj! let me tell you about the ls1. there are ls1 gto's running 11's @ 115+ with long tubes, a cam, a few other bolt ons and minor suspension work. that's gonna cost them less than it costs some of you guys to touch twelves. I just can't stand how little respect some of the people on this site show for other cars, especially ones that stock for stock and mod for mod are just faster.
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Originally Posted by jester
Umm with a stock clutch I had a 1.90 60 ft, some say 1.9's can be done by a4's most m6 are 2.1 2.0, mine was a 2.0.
Also I was one of those GTO's that trapped 110 stock, I did it twice, but only ran a 13.5 each run cause I had shitty 2.2 60ft or something.
Dave was so excited when he hit his first 12.......did a 12.8 at 109 with a 1.9 60' on stock tires. I was very proud....especially with just an intake.
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
ohhh woooo a respectable lsj! let me tell you about the ls1. there are ls1 gto's running 11's @ 115+ with long tubes, a cam, a few other bolt ons and minor suspension work. that's gonna cost them less than it costs some of you guys to touch twelves. I just can't stand how little respect some of the people on this site show for other cars, especially ones that stock for stock and mod for mod are just faster.
Settle down, I hope to god it can run that. It is a high performance V-8. But I am sorry, I could get an ss/sc into the twelves easily under 2g's.
Slicks,N2O,Tune.
Hell, stu is running 13.3 with just DR's and stg 2
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Settle down, I hope to god it can run that. It is a high performance V-8. But I am sorry, I could get an ss/sc into the twelves easily under 2g's.
Slicks,N2O,Tune.
Hell, stu is running 13.3 with just DR's and stg 2
with nitrous a tune and slicks i could put an ls1 DEEP 11's. im not attacking you. im sick of the guys on this site that think their **** is fast as hell and making comments like that.
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
cocky a bit? there are quite a few that im sure wouldnt even consider wasting their time with you.
i failed to add stock



see. miss one word and the world sticks their thumb in your ass
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Originally Posted by Area47
i failed to add stock



see. miss one word and the world sticks their thumb in your ass
yea well you gotta be careful around this site. you are forgiven
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
with nitrous a tune and slicks i could put an ls1 DEEP 11's. im not attacking you. im sick of the guys on this site that think their **** is fast as hell and making comments like that.
For sure. But please look at my other post in this thread. i never bashed the goats or stangs. Infact I believe I said that i would of taken a 6.0 if not for insurance and gas. I don't like people being fan boys either.


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