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Old 02-11-2016 | 10:48 AM
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2010 2.2 LAP Cobalt VS. 2003 Mercury Marauder

Hey guys,

Me and my bud just started a Youtube channel called " The Jank Garage " and uploaded our first video. I know the quality isn't great but were gunna keep working at it. Currently working on getting two go pros so we can shoot POV driving, exhaust clips, etc.

The channel is going to follow my Cobalt build, we are currently sourcing parts to do a eaten m62 supercharger install and we will be filming the entire process! Trying to stay around ~$2000 for the build.

My buddy also is going to be doing some work to his Marauder but hasn't decided on what, feel free to chime in with input on what you want to see done!

If you want to see our first video of my Cobalt vs his marauder, heres the link:


Edit : rematch with better camera angles here .

Video's are going to be going up weekly on Sundays. Subscribe on Youtube if you want to stay informed, Cheers!

EDIT : Results - We were dead even our first two runs, marauder beat my cobalt by about a car length on the last run -.-


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Old 02-11-2016 | 01:02 PM
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Maybe you should put the camera at the end of the race so we can see who won. If not that, at least say the results lol. Who won? Im assuming the cobalt.
Old 02-11-2016 | 01:07 PM
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Maybe you should put the camera at the end of the race so we can see who won. If not that, at least say the results lol. Who won? Im assuming the cobalt.

Yeah next time were going to do POV shots from inside the cars. We only had one camera so it was tough getting the footage. I put the info in the description on youtube. The first two runs were dead even . Third run I bounced off my rev limiter going from second to third and he beat my cobalt by a car length

Next nice day we're going to have a rematch.

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Old 02-11-2016 | 03:12 PM
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nice video. yeah, need the cameras in the actual race and it would be a solid video. Surprised the Marauder was that slow?? I guess they have the old mustang 4.6L right? probably 200 whp?
Old 02-11-2016 | 03:19 PM
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nice video. yeah, need the cameras in the actual race and it would be a solid video. Surprised the Marauder was that slow?? I guess they have the old mustang 4.6L right? probably 200 whp?
Yeah its a 4.6L v8 with DOHC. Stock from the factory they are rated at 305whp. His car has an aftermarket intake and exhaust so between that, and it being 13 years old. Its probably around 300 whp.

Edit - these numbers should be at the crank, not whp -.-

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Old 02-12-2016 | 02:46 PM
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Yeah its a 4.6L v8 with DOHC. Stock from the factory they are rated at 305whp. His car has an aftermarket intake and exhaust so between that, and it being 13 years old. Its probably around 300 whp.
Make sure you dont say that in any future videos you make show casing the Marauder again
Old 02-12-2016 | 02:58 PM
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Marauders are acutually rated somewhere between 220-250whp depending on how friendly the dyno is. I looked it up. Seems the consensus was about 230whp on average. If your friend told you it has 305 whp, you should have realized it didnt when you stayed at his side throughout the whole race.

I remember 2V stangs making just north of 200whp back in the day with their 4.6L v8s. They were rated 240bhp from factory. 305whp would be like 380bhp in an automatic Marauder. Your car must be around 135ish whp and weighs 2900 Ibs. vs a marauder at 200ish whp 4300 Ib car.


If you just look at power to weight ratio, you'd see you both should accelerate almost roughly the same rate. 2900 Ibs / 135 whp = 21.48 Ib/whp. 4300 Ibs / 200 whp = 21.5 Ib/whp.

This math regardless of trans can give you a pretty good idea on what cars move out faster. With that said. tuned LNF balt is around 3100 Ibs / 310 whp = 10.0 Ib/whp. Dont run any tuned LNF cobalts in your video They would accelerate away at more than double your acceleration rate.

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Old 02-12-2016 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CudaJoe
Marauders are acutually rated somewhere between 220-250whp depending on how friendly the dyno is. I looked it up. Seems the consensus was about 230whp on average. If your friend told you it has 305 whp, you should have realized it didnt when you stayed at his side throughout the whole race.

I remember 2V stangs making just north of 200whp back in the day with their 4.6L v8s. They were rated 240bhp from factory. 305whp would be like 380bhp in an automatic Marauder. Your car must be around 135ish whp and weighs 2900 Ibs. vs a marauder at 200ish whp 4300 Ib car.


If you just look at power to weight ratio, you'd see you both should accelerate almost roughly the same rate. 2900 Ibs / 135 whp = 21.48 Ib/whp. 4300 Ibs / 200 whp = 21.5 Ib/whp.

This math regardless of trans can give you a pretty good idea on what cars move out faster. With that said. tuned LNF balt is around 3100 Ibs / 310 whp = 10.0 Ib/whp. Dont run any tuned LNF cobalts in your video They would accelerate away at more than double your acceleration rate.
Looks like they are rated at 302 as per wikipedia, at the crank. So 200 ish at this point whp sounds totally right.

Of course a LNF would wreck both these cars, would love to make a video of them all racing and showcase the LNF a bit
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I'd be happy to beat the both of you Before I SC of course
Old 02-13-2016 | 10:51 AM
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I'd be happy to beat the both of you Before I SC of course
What do you drive ?

If you're in BC maybe we can arrange a meet up for a shoot and put that to the test
Old 02-13-2016 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JacksonThraves
What do you drive ?

If you're in BC maybe we can arrange a meet up for a shoot and put that to the test
I live in Calgary but go to Kelowna all the time so Chilliwack isn't that far away. I drive an LNF
Old 02-13-2016 | 11:22 AM
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I live in Calgary but go to Kelowna all the time so Chilliwack isn't that far away. I drive an LNF
Sweet man ! Yeah that's not far at all. Would love do meet up and do a shoot with your car. If you wanna message me next time you're coming to BC we can work something out, jacksonthraves59@gmail.com .
Old 02-13-2016 | 11:23 AM
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Sweet man ! Yeah that's not far at all. Would love do meet up and do a shoot with your car. If you wanna message me next time you're coming to BC we can work something out, jacksonthraves59@gmail.com .
I'll be going to Kelowna in march
Old 02-13-2016 | 01:29 PM
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I'll be going to Kelowna in march
March sounds reasonable to me. As long as the coquihalla isn't too bad wouldn't mind making a trip over there. Fire me an email and we can exchange info and work out the details.
Old 02-13-2016 | 02:46 PM
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March sounds reasonable to me. As long as the coquihalla isn't too bad wouldn't mind making a trip over there. Fire me an email and we can exchange info and work out the details.
Well i haven't planned the trip out yet but when I do I'll email
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if you ever come to the island we could meet up too
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if you ever come to the island we could meet up too
You're big turbo why you picking on a 2.2???
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cause im slow
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cause im slow
Haha well I can't argue with that
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Originally Posted by JacksonThraves
What do you drive ?

If you're in BC maybe we can arrange a meet up for a shoot and put that to the test
Nah I'm near the Mexican border. I'm fully bolted and on half ethanol fuel. Also have a very aggressive self tune. Going to install balance shaft deletes and a self-ported head eventually with stage 2 SC cams custom made to fit the 07-08 head and some Pwerks valve springs. I'll see how it does on HP at 8000rpm then I'll supercharge it. Should be fun
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They are in canada
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I know lol. I beat enough cars to know the outcome but still if I'm ever in Washington I'll go north for a visit.
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I know lol. I beat enough cars to know the outcome but still if I'm ever in Washington I'll go north for a visit.
If you're around here stop by for sure
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If you're around here stop by for sure
Yeah I'm going to race a 481whp with my NA L61. I'd like to see how much I'd lose by I guess.
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Yeah I'm going to race a 481whp with my NA L61. I'd like to see how much I'd lose by I guess.
Haha 481 was last years news


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