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Old 12-15-2010, 04:52 PM
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I'm still waitin' on racing one of the 2011's but since it's winter I'm sure I'll have to wait untill spring

^ By then I don't know if the stang will stand a chance
Old 12-15-2010, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Zenkat
The 2011's have 2 different gear ratios. I hear it's the 3.73's you need to watch out for.
They're not a huge difference in stock form honestly. Start adding mods and the gear ratio's show much more.
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ill give the mustang props, they are pretty beasty and im nowhere near a ford lover
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Originally Posted by Monster Mach
iv never seen them run that at mir stock lmao.. autos run 15's still and the fastest manual was 13.7 stock
i agree with you. the fastest auto (05-10) i've seen went 14.1. i personally owned
a 06 manual and it went 13.6 beating it too death. just driving it normal (but hard)
would get me a 14.0. they are faster than 15's lol. stock, they do not go low 13's.
never saw it. maybe a factory freak, but not the norm.
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Originally Posted by skip_jones
i agree with you. the fastest auto (05-10) i've seen went 14.1. i personally owned
a 06 manual and it went 13.6 beating it too death. just driving it normal (but hard)
would get me a 14.0. they are faster than 15's lol. stock, they do not go low 13's.
never saw it. maybe a factory freak, but not the norm.
thats what im saying.. i remember a 08gt/cs running up against me doing 15.0 and his dial in being 15.00 he was wide open the entire race.. ik cars have potential hell my girlfriends brother has a 01 gt with 190k with bolt ons exhaust tune accufab throttlebody and he runs 13.5 auto all day long..
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I have friends with each body style. One with an 07 GT with intake only went 13.3-13,4 all day long on factory rubber. One with a 2010 went 13.2-13.3 all day long bone stock. Only guy I know with an auto has a 11' fully bolted and tuned and he runs 12.0.

The 90's V8 mustangs run 14's guys, now if you're at higher elevation I can see where you're coming from because they would run worse.
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Old 12-16-2010, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Monster Mach
nice dont race the 11's you will get your butt handed to you.. the 10's at 14.5 second cars.. nice kill
OMG. You being a Mustang owner, you would think you would be a little more informed than you are. I guess not. Let me guess, you think the 2011 V6 Mustang is a 15 second car?lol
Old 12-16-2010, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Monster Mach
iv never seen them run that at mir stock lmao.. autos run 15's still and the fastest manual was 13.7 stock
this guy speaks the truth... the 3v cars are heavy and slow... the new 5.0L are pretty effing fast, i guess they realized they needed some variable cam timing and to actually turn the effing motor a few rpm...

btw theres a local guy here with a White Mach1 with 03 front bumper and a blower on a stock bottom end... just random seeing another of the exact car.
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Originally Posted by JBThrasher22
Pretty sure unless it changed you could get 3 different gear ratios , I know on his order form it had 3 different ones listed. Ya he got the middle ration the 3.55 , so not as aggressive as the 3.72. Still a beast any way you look at it. God I love listening to the LS guys ( the camaro / vett / etc guys ) around here talk so much smack on the new mustangs but when it comes down to it ford made a damn good platform.
Even the camaro guys accept that it's a bit faster than the fifth generation camaro now. Camaro5 is full of respect mostly. They realize there's no beating a car that makes the same power and weighs up to 300 lbs less. The fastest stock cars are the autos. . . It's harder to get the manuals to perform 100% because of the "soft limiter" at 6000rpm. The throttle pulls back to 85% at that point. You really have to know how to play with it and the difference between drivers seems to be even more prominent in these cars. IIRC the fastest m6 was a 12.5@113. The fastest auto was a 12.3@115 bone stock. They're nasty. GM has some catching up to do, but I'm sure they will with the next camaro. The ls3 has plenty left on the table. Like I said, they're doing 120 traps with headers/exhaust/intake/tune. An evo customer car did a 138 trap on a stock motor and trans with ONLY a dyno tuned procharger kit and exhaust. ******' insane. The real question is: how fast will the boss be? With the red key, they're going to easily be putting down an extra 40-50rwhp over the stock 5.0. Should easily be an 11 second car from the factory with some tires. Those things are going to be running 9's with a simple blower. They will be the baddest tuner cars around imo. A fully forged 5.0 revving to 8k(!!!) with adjustable suspension and less weight for 40k? Shiiiiitt.

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Originally Posted by RoadconeTuning
this guy speaks the truth... the 3v cars are heavy and slow... the new 5.0L are pretty effing fast, i guess they realized they needed some variable cam timing and to actually turn the effing motor a few rpm...

btw theres a local guy here with a White Mach1 with 03 front bumper and a blower on a stock bottom end... just random seeing another of the exact car.
bastard stole my motor idea lmao im an 04 check to see if he is tooo
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Originally Posted by Shibito
I have friends with each body style. One with an 07 GT with intake only went 13.3-13,4 all day long on factory rubber. One with a 2010 went 13.2-13.3 all day long bone stock. Only guy I know with an auto has a 11' fully bolted and tuned and he runs 12.0.

The 90's V8 mustangs run 14's guys, now if you're at higher elevation I can see where you're coming from because they would run worse.
my girlfriends car runs 14.9 auto 03 gt with intake and widertires
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There is a diff between what a car can run and what the driver can run. If the best the car can do is really a 14.9 there is something wrong with it.. What was the trap and 60'..
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I went to the track today with my 2011 5.0 6-speed manual. My car is a Premium 400a. Wanted to get some more 11 sec. timeslips, I got 4 off them. Car was hooking pretty good on the stock 19in Pirellis.
Mods:
*Lethal Performance O/R X-pipe
*Flowmaster Axle-Back
*JLT cai
*Revolution Automotive tune
*UPR upper and lower control arms and Panhard Bar
*BMR lowering springs

1st pass: 12.01@118.01 1.85 60ft.
2nd pass: 11.96@117.69 1.79 60ft.
3rd pass: 11.96@116.42 1.81 60ft.
4th pass: 11.97@119.12 1.82 60ft.
5th pass: 11.98@117.09 1.83 60ft.
6th pass: 12.47@117.24 2.22 60ft.
The last run I tried to get to aggressive with the launch and it spun real bad. Was launching at 2500rpm and seemed to hook real good. I cant believe it pulled 119mph and I was excited about the 1.79 60ft. on stock Pirelli tires.
I did make 2 runs with a set of Nitto 555r 18in drag radials that a friend of mine brought to the track with him. I didnt have good success on them, they spun bad, so I switched back to the Pirellies, go figure.
1st pass: 12.14@117.04 1.98 60ft.
2nd pass: 12.28@116.67 2.02 60ft

Ran the 2011 5.0 today, on Pirellis, 11.9's - SVTPerformance

This is what a minor bolt on 5.0 does.

That car would pick up another 20whp from longtubes. A bolt on/tuned ss/tc would get smoked by a full bolt on car in most situations, but against a stock one a tuned/bolted ss/tc should fair pretty well.
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Originally Posted by Monster Mach
my girlfriends car runs 14.9 auto 03 gt with intake and widertires
Either the car has a problem or the driver's doing something wrong. Sorry but the 99-04 GT's even in auto form are easily a 14.0 car.

What elevation are you running at?
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Originally Posted by Shibito
Either the car has a problem or the driver's doing something wrong. Sorry but the 99-04 GT's even in auto form are easily a 14.0 car.

What elevation are you running at?
its a bone stock gt has intake no tune.. its at mir we race for free so we race all the time.. i drove it she drove it her brother drove it.. i race my mach and her brother races his cobra and auto 01 gt(runs 13.7 range) (but full bolton) noone can muster more than 14.9 out of it.. his gt when stock ran 14.8 my best friends auto gt.. yet again 14.9.. all at maryland international raceway.. i loaded the car up in various rpms and still could not get it up there.. sorry but from what i have seen in my personal experiance.. the earlier stangs are not as quick as people claim (THIS IS ONLY AT 1 TRACK)
yet again at my home track i was running 8.8 1/8 stock then i came down here and ran 9.1 so idk
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its a good thing ford fixed the mustang in 2011. lol.... an 07 350z is faster stock than any year mustang gt other than the 2011. lmao.
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Originally Posted by Monster Mach
its a bone stock gt has intake no tune.. its at mir we race for free so we race all the time.. i drove it she drove it her brother drove it.. i race my mach and her brother races his cobra and auto 01 gt(runs 13.7 range) (but full bolton) noone can muster more than 14.9 out of it.. his gt when stock ran 14.8 my best friends auto gt.. yet again 14.9.. all at maryland international raceway.. i loaded the car up in various rpms and still could not get it up there.. sorry but from what i have seen in my personal experiance.. the earlier stangs are not as quick as people claim (THIS IS ONLY AT 1 TRACK)
yet again at my home track i was running 8.8 1/8 stock then i came down here and ran 9.1 so idk
That's odd. I've talked of times that Ive seen personally run in cars as well. Every track is different that's for sure. My Cobra will run low 11's on street tires at 1 track and barely make high 12's at another because of the track prep.
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I raced my friends auto 2011. He pulled a good amount. Another one of my friends with an LNF raced a 5.0 and was dead even with him. Mods to the cobalt were catless downpipe, side exit exhaust, tune.
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Originally Posted by Dart_SI
its a good thing ford fixed the mustang in 2011. lol.... an 07 350z is faster stock than any year mustang gt other than the 2011. lmao.
Are some of you guys living under a rock? This is a review from the 2011 V6 MUSTANG. Read the last paragraph on page one and tell me about the performance. Seems pretty close to the 370Z to me.

2011 Ford Mustang V-6 First Test - Motor Trend
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Originally Posted by SS4ME
Are some of you guys living under a rock? This is a review from the 2011 V6 MUSTANG. Read the last paragraph on page one and tell me about the performance. Seems pretty close to the 370Z to me.

2011 Ford Mustang V-6 First Test - Motor Trend
you must be under a rock because a 370z >>> 2011 v6 mustang. the 2011 v6 stang wont run low 13's or trap as high.

the 2011 v6 stang is on par with a DE 350z, but not the HR 350z, and definently not a 370z
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Originally Posted by Dart_SI
you must be under a rock because a 370z >>> 2011 v6 mustang. the 2011 v6 stang wont run low 13's or trap as high.
I didn't say it was faster, it's almost comparable. Those times will improve over the magazine times. You will see soon!
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Originally Posted by SS4ME
I didn't say it was faster, it's almost comparable. Those times will improve over the magazine times. You will see soon!
mustang v6--- 13.7@102

370z---- 13.3@106

meh, its still a good gap. not to mention some 370's have trapped as high as 109 and ran 13.0. i dont see a stock 2011 v6 stang getting near a 13.0@109.

also, the fastest stock 370z time was 12.8@110.

the 2011 v6 mustang is more comparable to a 03-06 350z. even the 07-08 350z is superior to the v6 stang. (fastest stock 07-08 350z was 13.1@108)
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Originally Posted by Dart_SI
mustang v6--- 13.7@102

370z---- 13.3@106

meh, its still a good gap. not to mention some 370's have trapped as high as 109 and ran 13.0. i dont see a stock 2011 v6 stang getting near a 13.0@109.

also, the fastest stock 370z time was 12.8@110.

the 2011 v6 mustang is more comparable to a 03-06 350z. even the 07-08 350z is superior to the v6 stang. (fastest stock 07-08 350z was 13.1@108)
I know the 370Z is the better car here. It's also more expensive. I didn't know they cracked 12s stock. That's not going to happen often. Dollar for dollar the 2011 V6 Mustang is better IMO. I'll be happy with some 13.5s when I get into a stang.

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Originally Posted by SS4ME
I know the 370Z is the better car here. It's also more expensive. I didn't know they cracked 12s stock. That's not going to happen often. Dollar for dollar the 2011 V6 Mustang is better IMO. I'll be happy with some 13.5s when get the stang.
meh, yea the mustang is cheaper and all that. but you should try sitting ina 370 and driving it. its worth every penny, that car is so refined and awesome to drive. the interior blows the mustangs interior away completely, and its just way better built, and it will hold the resalve value very well.

bang for buck i guess the 2011 v6 is good tho, but it will take full bolt ons and a tune to = a stock 370z.


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