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Old 12-17-2010, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Dart_SI
meh, yea the mustang is cheaper and all that. but you should try sitting ina 370 and driving it. its worth every penny, that car is so refined and awesome to drive. the interior blows the mustangs interior away completely, and its just way better built, and it will hold the resalve value very well.

bang for buck i guess the 2011 v6 is good tho, but it will take full bolt ons and a tune to = a stock 370z.
Um no sorry bama tunes on some stock v6 m6 have gotten down to the 13.2's alone with a 93 tune bone stock everything else even tires. Their 87 oct tune will get 13.5's bone stock. Sorry i troll alot of fourms to keep up with different cars because this is what I love.

Pound for pound the 370z is a better car and is def faster though. But for a company to come out of the dark ages with a car that has from the past been not even worth mentioning they did a good job with the new v6 mustang.
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Originally Posted by Dart_SI
meh, yea the mustang is cheaper and all that. but you should try sitting ina 370 and driving it. its worth every penny, that car is so refined and awesome to drive. the interior blows the mustangs interior away completely, and its just way better built, and it will hold the resalve value very well.

bang for buck i guess the 2011 v6 is good tho, but it will take full bolt ons and a tune to = a stock 370z.
True.

Oh, I have a family so the 370Z is not an option for me now. I'm done thread jacking now.
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Oh and I figured you guys would love this. Mustang guys crack me up these new v6 guys are cockier then us LNF owners :P.

2011 Mustang V6 vs. Cobalt SS/Neon SRT4 - Ford Mustang Forums

One of the new v6 owners said he killed a stage 3 srt with toys. That guy must have been sleeping rolf.

Funny stuff , and I know what a gms1 can do with a 11 5.0 because my brother from another mother got one for his new car after a year deployment and he doesn't come around me until 105 and doesn't pull away until 120.
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Nice vid. Good launch but all in all if that stang would ha stayed in it the whole way he woulda hit 125 first. Sweet music hah
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Originally Posted by JBThrasher22
Oh and I figured you guys would love this. Mustang guys crack me up these new v6 guys are cockier then us LNF owners :P.

2011 Mustang V6 vs. Cobalt SS/Neon SRT4 - Ford Mustang Forums

One of the new v6 owners said he killed a stage 3 srt with toys. That guy must have been sleeping rolf.

Funny stuff , and I know what a gms1 can do with a 11 5.0 because my brother from another mother got one for his new car after a year deployment and he doesn't come around me until 105 and doesn't pull away until 120.
Wow... Those are definitely some V6 Mustang tools... Hoping for 12's on a tune and better tire?

Unfortunately for them the LNF will do 12's on factory rubber.
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Originally Posted by norcalstatvs
Nice vid. Good launch but all in all if that stang would ha stayed in it the whole way he woulda hit 125 first. Sweet music hah
No he would not of hit 125 first as I was 3-4 car lengths a head at the end. He only let off to correct the back end from sliding out, we are talking a split second of less throttle (not even letting out 100%). It a stock mustang, no shame in losing to a tuned turbo balt.

And lol at the v6 mustang owners, they really have no clue about the cobalts do they.
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
stock for stock, a 2010 gt is just about as fast as a stock mach 1.
I drove one, wasn't that impressed. Maybe with some mods and a tune.
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Originally Posted by Black SS/SC 06
I drove one, wasn't that impressed. Maybe with some mods and a tune.
drive a '11 you'll be impressed. The new one is a far better car all around and fast as ***** for a stock 30k car
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
drive a '11 you'll be impressed. The new one is a far better car all around and fast as ***** for a stock 30k car
This^^

I'm going to be demodding my Procharged '09 after the holidays and looking for an '11 California Special with 3.73s not long after.
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Originally Posted by Witt
This^^

I'm going to be demodding my Procharged '09 after the holidays and looking for an '11 California Special with 3.73s not long after.
They're a whole different ball game. You'll probably run similar times with bolt ons to what your procharged car runs.
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
They're a whole different ball game. You'll probably run similar times with bolt ons to what your procharged car runs.
Which is exactly why I want one. My current car is a p1sc-1 @ 9psi, frpp intake/tb/cams and my tune. Its doesn't exactly drive like stock. I'd rather be driving a 402a or 400a loaded up car with frpp parts that drive beautifully but still has some *****.

A 3v basically has to have a blower or 4.56 gears to be fun. With a 40 mile drive to work, ridiculous gearing was out of the equation.
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
Even the camaro guys accept that it's a bit faster than the fifth generation camaro now. Camaro5 is full of respect mostly. They realize there's no beating a car that makes the same power and weighs up to 300 lbs less. The fastest stock cars are the autos. . . It's harder to get the manuals to perform 100% because of the "soft limiter" at 6000rpm. The throttle pulls back to 85% at that point. You really have to know how to play with it and the difference between drivers seems to be even more prominent in these cars. IIRC the fastest m6 was a 12.5@113. The fastest auto was a 12.3@115 bone stock. They're nasty. GM has some catching up to do, but I'm sure they will with the next camaro. The ls3 has plenty left on the table. Like I said, they're doing 120 traps with headers/exhaust/intake/tune. An evo customer car did a 138 trap on a stock motor and trans with ONLY a dyno tuned procharger kit and exhaust. ******' insane. The real question is: how fast will the boss be? With the red key, they're going to easily be putting down an extra 40-50rwhp over the stock 5.0. Should easily be an 11 second car from the factory with some tires. Those things are going to be running 9's with a simple blower. They will be the baddest tuner cars around imo. A fully forged 5.0 revving to 8k(!!!) with adjustable suspension and less weight for 40k? Shiiiiitt.
this.
we're in agreement over on the GTO boards.
I'm assuming GM will be sticking with the LS3 in the next camaro, but its supposed to be on a lighter platform, so that should help some. Us goats just have no options though short of just making more HP. Why hello there new cam
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
drive a '11 you'll be impressed. The new one is a far better car all around and fast as ***** for a stock 30k car
Damn right they are. My brothers 2011 auto GT just went a 12.51 at 113.7 100% factory stock
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this.
we're in agreement over on the GTO boards.
I'm assuming GM will be sticking with the LS3 in the next camaro, but its supposed to be on a lighter platform, so that should help some. Us goats just have no options though short of just making more HP. Why hello there new cam
The fact that it ups the ante and forces the others to improve really helps GM and Mopar guys even if you don't like Ford.
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Originally Posted by Witt
The fact that it ups the ante and forces the others to improve really helps GM and Mopar guys even if you don't like Ford.
The new SRT is bad ass too. Overpriced IMO, but there's so much potential in that 392. With a good h/c setup they will be monstrous.
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
The new SRT is bad ass too. Overpriced IMO, but there's so much potential in that 392. With a good h/c setup they will be monstrous.
agreed, but i think chrysler went the wrong route in trying to add power instead of removing weight. besides, weight reduction would also have the benefit of better MPG, so they should like that oath anyways. Course the best is a world with both more power and less weight, and agreed with Witt. Even not being a mustang fan, im glad they have what they have. Forces competition to improve, and i like seeing the american companies in general do well
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Originally Posted by slowstang
Damn right they are. My brothers 2011 auto GT just went a 12.51 at 113.7 100% factory stock
I with I could justify paying the insurance premiums for a 2011 GT. Oh well, from what I've seen the V6 Stang is a good option for a cheapo like me.
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just sigined up on there and asked for a race with a new v6
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Question is how fast is the 11 V6 Mustang with the GT suspension package and optional gearing?

I don't think any of those test were with the optional gearing you can get.

I know for a fact (becasue I remember reading it) that the 11 V6 Mustang with the GT suspension package out performed the GT itself in handeling.
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Originally Posted by HHRSSouth
Question is how fast is the 11 V6 Mustang with the GT suspension package and optional gearing?

I don't think any of those test were with the optional gearing you can get.

I know for a fact (becasue I remember reading it) that the 11 V6 Mustang with the GT suspension package out performed the GT itself in handeling.
That would make sense cuz it is lighter... The 5.0 would still man handle the V-6 on a road coarse... The skidpad only shows ho much it will hold, there are straights on a track, the 5.0 would be murderous against a v-6
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Originally Posted by RyRidesMotox
That would make sense cuz it is lighter... The 5.0 would still man handle the V-6 on a road coarse... The skidpad only shows ho much it will hold, there are straights on a track, the 5.0 would be murderous against a v-6
I did read about a race on a forums (dont ask me which because it was 2 months ago when I was interested in the V6) and saw a video of a stock 2010 Mustang GT vs. a stock 2011 Mustang V6 and the 2010 only beat it by 3/4 of a car. Supposedly the stock 2011 V6 was being driven by the wife of the guy filming. So I still think a 2011 V6 Mustang with the gear upgrade option could run neck and neck with a 2010 GT, driver mod of course.

You start talking about mods and thats a whole other story, 2010 Mustang GT hands down.

But to be fair you could buy a 2010 Mustang GT at the end of last year for the same money a 2011 Mustang would have cost you. People were snatching them up off the lots.
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It all depends on the transmission and gear ratio for the 2011 V6 Mustang. I saw a comparo recently and the Mustang was equipped with an auto trans and 3.73s. It ran a 14.5@97mph. The 6-speed manual with 4.11s have been tested as high as 13.7@103mph in some magazines.
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Originally Posted by SS4ME
It all depends on the transmission and gear ratio for the 2011 V6 Mustang. I saw a comparo recently and the Mustang was equipped with an auto trans and 3.73s. It ran a 14.5@97mph. The 6-speed manual with 4.11s have been tested as high as 13.7@103mph in some magazines.
I believe the optional upgrade gears for the V6 is 3.10s. Stock is 2. (something)
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Originally Posted by HHRSSouth
I believe the optional upgrade gears for the V6 is 3.10s. Stock is 2. (something)
Oops! I don't know why I typed 4.11s. Wow! I meant to type 3.31s.
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Originally Posted by HHRSSouth
I did read about a race on a forums (dont ask me which because it was 2 months ago when I was interested in the V6) and saw a video of a stock 2010 Mustang GT vs. a stock 2011 Mustang V6 and the 2010 only beat it by 3/4 of a car. Supposedly the stock 2011 V6 was being driven by the wife of the guy filming. So I still think a 2011 V6 Mustang with the gear upgrade option could run neck and neck with a 2010 GT, driver mod of course.

You start talking about mods and thats a whole other story, 2010 Mustang GT hands down.

But to be fair you could buy a 2010 Mustang GT at the end of last year for the same money a 2011 Mustang would have cost you. People were snatching them up off the lots.
Yea but the 4.6 in the 2010 GT wasn't anything to write home about. The new 5.0 will murder a V-6 of any of the mustang, camaro, challenger group.


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