ramrod1337

iTrader: (1)

Wait and wich are you driving? or are you just spectating? and balt will win everytime it doesnt matter probably stock for stock and that is one picture of one run, and you probably picked that pic b/c it has the biggest gap between cars.

leoaa777

I ran a 13.96 @ 102-103 with a pathetic 2.37 60' on my ONE wheel wonder SS/TC. Bone stock, with a KN filter dropped in. I will pay a Genesis V6 (stock obviously) that can beat me from a roll (20 or 40).

With that 2.0-2.1 60' I have no doubt in my mind my car would be able to pull one of those 13.6 timeslips but alas, fwd and my 15K continentals are what I am working with right now.

ripped

This is a silly argument it all comes down to driver

SLoW LT1

So you think you're going to run the same time stock that i just ran with GMS1?...LOL

I Had a 2.216 60ft for those who were asking

ItalianJoe1

iTrader: (10)

His car runs as hard as a stage 1 LNF.

SLoW SHO

Maybe he got one of those GMS1 tunes stock.

leoaa777

That's a big negative. Italianjoe has seen my car run, and I have dyno numbers to prove I am stock. Head out to the dyno results and you will find my thread with videos.

I have ran mostly trifecta tuned cars, gms1 is below those tf cars.

SLoW LT1

STOCK with just a KN filter?

ItalianJoe1

iTrader: (10)

His traps are identical to what a stage 1 car was doing on friday night, so i'd say he has the power for it.

SLoW LT1

a stage 1 car was trapping 102?

he has the power for it? so he makes more power stock than everyone else?

ItalianJoe1

iTrader: (10)

Seems that way. I dunno what to think. I've only ever ran one other LNF car, it was stage 1. Moved just a hard as Leo's car. Either the "stage 1" car I ran had issues, or Leo's car is not stock, but it moves hard.

SLoW SHO

Stock = makes more power stock than stock.

leoaa777

Isn't 103 mph what lnf's are supposed to trap? Gms1 are supposed to be on the 106-107 mph and trifecta on the 109-110 mph.

I don't see how my car is not stock.

SLoW SHO

No, 103 isn't what's "supposed" to happen. That's what the top .00001% of people seem to get, especially after tricking the computer. 99-101 is the range that 99% of LNF's run in.

ford

I think i am un-subscribing from this thread. It is going round and round with no end in sight.

leoaa777

Isn't the record for the LNF a 13.5 stock? I don't see how a 13.9 is so difficult to achieve. My lowest trap was a 101 if I recall, so I don't see how in this world I am tuned. It is all about shift points and proper driving so please do not include me with the 99% you are referring to.

With better tires and a bit more seat time I am confident I can hit a much better time, maybe not record setting but certainly on the 13.6-13.7 range. On a stock tune.

SLoW LT1

No. you will not

unijabnx2000

iTrader: (1)

probably a drivers race, and also it is from a roll or heads up? (no i didnt read 4 pages of BS)

jb09ss

Where? Here in the cold (shouldn't mater with our load based ecm anyway) they are all trapping 101+.

leoaa777

Thank you.

Slowlt1, my poor 60' and trap speeds certainly say otherwise. I believe there is room for quite a bit of improvement on that 13.9.

tglems

iTrader: (3)

Well, I can only tell you what I trap, and what two of my buddies trapped, here down in AZ. Stock, we all trapped in the 101-102 range. My top trap speed STOCK was high 103's. That is 3 of us down here. And, looking at the top 10 lists, the LNF's seem to be pretty consistent in trapping that when they are stock. If you want to ignore the evidence and keep arguing the point, then you look stupid. It's like you claim a porcupine doesn't have quills, and we show you 10 that do, and then you claim that that is only .0000001% of porcupines, and the rest don't. So we show you 100 more, and you say that is just an oddity, etc etc.
Maybe you once saw a stock SS/TC trapping around 99-100. The proof is that pretty much all of us trap higher. I have my time slips and my name is on the top ten list for running at 13.9, with a crappy 60' time. If you want to argue it, then keep arguing, but you only make yourself look stupid.

As for the genesis, it's a nice car. I wish my 'balt was half as refined, with a push button start, etc. However, it is not a Cobalt beater, which was proven. Instead, it is a drivers race, depending on conditions. Just give up and let it go already.

SLoW LT1

you may improve to a 13.8 yes. but you will not run GMS1 times stock. which is what you are saying

SuperchargedSS

Whats the point here? That Cobalts will never be as fast as the owners who drive them think they are?

*yawn*

Thats getting old. The real issue here is we are basing this off of two drivers, and one night at the track. The real truth is that this weekend, the tc and hyundai will square off on tracks all over, stock for stock, and he TC will win, the TC will lose. They are that even.

I wish I could say no one fukin cares, but there's 9 pages of absolute science here...

This is going wayyyy too deep.

ford

4 pages... change your posts per page.