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Old 08-29-2008, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Perfect.disguise
Again, from what I have gathered the SC trap is slightly higher that the 4th G aswell so I don't see it getting blown away from a roll.


they make more whp stock than a S2 Cobalt...they aren't exactly light, but deal with it, a stock GT is faster than a stock SS/SC.

It is not some chicky car that everyone thinks it is too.

They are too big to be a chick's car...gone are those days where the eclipse is a straight chick car.

I really am surprised they haven't caught on a little more...they are a pretty decent platform to build on, and really are a quick car for the price
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lol are these people for real?!?! lmao so this is what people say on other forums lol
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They also weigh roughly 500lbs more aswell ..so that would equal about ~45-50 more whp the Eclipse would need to run the same time as a SC..The SC comes with a little over 210hp and the Eclipse puts down about 247whp. Please explain your logic why the Eclipse is faster stock for stock.
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Originally Posted by Perfect.disguise
They also weigh roughly 500lbs more aswell ..so that would equal about ~45-50 more whp the Eclipse would need to run the same time as a SC..The SC comes with a little over 210hp and the Eclipse puts down about 247whp. Please explain your logic why the Eclipse is faster stock for stock.
I have driven both.

Watched both race.

Watched stock ones run dyno runs on the same dyno on the same day.


The GT is faster stock for stock.

It's ok man, cobalt>world is def not true.
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Originally Posted by steddy2112


they make more whp stock than a S2 Cobalt...they aren't exactly light, but deal with it, a stock GT is faster than a stock SS/SC.

It is not some chicky car that everyone thinks it is too.

They are too big to be a chick's car...gone are those days where the eclipse is a straight chick car.

I really am surprised they haven't caught on a little more...they are a pretty decent platform to build on, and really are a quick car for the price
I wouldnt say all GT's make more whp...but most of them do though. I would say the GT and SS/SC are about the same. I wouldnt say they are definately faster....their fastest stock times are not any faster than some stock ss/sc's. I personally think they're a drivers race. I wouldnt say the 4g is completely a chicks car..but the 3g definatly was alittle more. Although they a decent platform to build...I think they're ugly...heavy....handling is mediocre...all equaling crappy sales and no aftermarket support.
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Originally Posted by cobaltR
I wouldnt say all GT's make more whp...but most of them do though. I would say the GT and SS/SC are about the same. I wouldnt say they are definately faster....their fastest stock times are not any faster than some stock ss/sc's. I personally think they're a drivers race. I wouldnt say the 4g is completely a chicks car..but the 3g definatly was alittle more. Although they a decent platform to build...I think they're ugly...heavy....handling is mediocre...all equaling crappy sales and no aftermarket support.
Oh I completely agree with your post.


And I am not saying the GT puts buses on a stock SS/SC, but it is faster.
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Originally Posted by steddy2112
Oh I completely agree with your post.


And I am not saying the GT puts buses on a stock SS/SC, but it is faster.
oh I know...but the quickest stock gt is what 14.02 and the quickest ss/sc is what 14.06....so I guess you can say its quicker....but by a nose hair...lol....its all good though.
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Originally Posted by cobaltR
oh I know...but the quickest stock gt is what 14.02 and the quickest ss/sc is what 14.06....so I guess you can say its quicker....but by a nose hair...lol....its all good though.
From a roll....I would put my money on a GT.

at the track...SS/SC...the GT has a all but useless first thanks to all the TQ they make down low.
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I like the new Eclipses and loved my 2nd Gen GST but I believe the 4G and a SS is more of a drivers race stock. The reviews have the SS a tad faster though the 4g has more power it's extra weight cancels it out so to say. Though I have no he said/ I saw to back it up..Haha not like either cars are that great though :/
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Drive one...more of a highway car than the SS/SC...but man there really isn't any part of the powerband that doesn't pull you back into the seat and hold you there...MIVEC has a sweet kick to it too.
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Originally Posted by steddy2112
From a roll....I would put my money on a GT.

at the track...SS/SC...the GT has a all but useless first thanks to all the TQ they make down low.
I need to find one now.... but I dont ever see one...and if I ever do...its some older person driving it who has no interest in racing anyway....oh well....

Originally Posted by steddy2112
Drive one...more of a highway car than the SS/SC...but man there really isn't any part of the powerband that doesn't pull you back into the seat and hold you there...MIVEC has a sweet kick to it too.
yeah....the motor is impressive...but to me thats the only thing that is impressive.

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My best friend has one.

We raced (SS/TC) and I completely walked him...but a stock for stock SS/SC vs GT race would be an awesomely close race
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I see very few GTs only the 4cyl.Very overpriced IMO.
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IRS, smooth ride that loves trail braking.

If driven right they handle good...but they have a little bit of a learning curve...the interior is REALLY ******* nice and the stock system is ******* nice too.
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Ehh W/E I'm more worried about Evo's
Old 08-29-2008, 11:47 PM
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Stock Vs Stock They'll Win
But I Raced One With My Mods And He Had Intake And A 50 Shot(wich I Didnt Know Till After The Race)
He Only Took Me By A Car..so Yeah
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Originally Posted by Perfect.disguise
Ehh W/E I'm more worried about Evo's
Not with a stock SS/SC...
Old 08-29-2008, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by steddy2112
Not with a stock SS/SC...
Didn't mention anything about me being stock did I?..
Ehh sad to know the X's run high 13's.
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Originally Posted by Perfect.disguise
Didn't mention anything about me being stock did I?..
Ehh sad to know the X's run high 13's.
yeah....too bad...I still like the way they look.....but there was so much hype they were gonna be ungodly fast.....so dissappointing....
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There is more to fast than a 1/4 mile time


They are quite restricted from the factory, breather mods push them right over 300whp EASY
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Originally Posted by steddy2112
There is more to fast than a 1/4 mile time


They are quite restricted from the factory, breather mods push them right over 300whp EASY
Well they only reason it was able to muster a 13.8 is by the launch go from a roll like you seem to like talking about and it's even slower...
And no it take more than "breather" mods. I was looking at a magazine that added stuff and dynoed afterwards and with a boost controller, intake exhaust and probably something I forgot it was able to make 308whp.None the less if I was to go out and buy a new car that would be it.
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what a bunch of ******* retards...who thinks I should join and try and get one of them to race? I really want to shut all of those clueless ignorant retards up
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Go for it.
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Originally Posted by Perfect.disguise
Well they only reason it was able to muster a 13.8 is by the launch go from a roll like you seem to like talking about and it's even slower...
And no it take more than "breather" mods. I was looking at a magazine that added stuff and dynoed afterwards and with a boost controller, intake exhaust and probably something I forgot it was able to make 308whp.None the less if I was to go out and buy a new car that would be it.
Intake, exhaust, downpipe, charge piping=breather mods.

MBC=$15-$30 bucks

That really isn't much...

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what a bunch of ******* retards...who thinks I should join and try and get one of them to race? I really want to shut all of those clueless ignorant retards up
don't troll

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Originally Posted by steddy2112


don't troll
dude I know I hate that, but I hate people who tak **** when they aren't informed even more. ignorance pisses me off more than anything


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