4G Eclipse GT vs Cobalt SS/SC
09-17-2008, 12:16 AM
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Read the other 10 pages and I think alot people will tell you it can. Drivers race in my opinion....fastest stock gt is the same as the fastest stock ss/sc. Either way...they are decent platforms...I just think the balt is better, it has much more aftermarket support.
09-17-2008, 12:17 AM
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for the most part the EJ205and EJ207 can make around high 300s low 400s on pump wit the right tunin bigger tubro and supporting.. problem is the 2.0 has lag wit the bigger turbos need to make 400hp....but the EJ257 on the other hand ive seen makin high 400s on pump... but that pushin it.. the internals just dont like that much power...lol
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09-17-2008, 12:18 AM
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i dont need the see times, times dont mean **** when you have bad drives, i know this cause i beat a ss/sc on the highway in my girls car (06 GT) the other night from a 30 roll then from a 60 roll, i didnt when by all that much but i won and thats all that matters it was like a car both times
09-17-2008, 12:20 AM
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i dont need the see times, times dont mean **** when you have bad drives, i know this cause i beat a ss/sc on the highway in my girls car (06 GT) the other night from a 30 roll then from a 60 roll, i didnt when by all that much but i won and thats all that matters it was like a car both times
09-17-2008, 12:21 AM
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i dont need the see times, times dont mean **** when you have bad drives, i know this cause i beat a ss/sc on the highway in my girls car (06 GT) the other night from a 30 roll then from a 60 roll, i didnt when by all that much but i won and thats all that matters it was like a car both times
09-17-2008, 12:22 AM
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what ever man, i understand why people dont like you ss guys, alot of yall think that yalls cars are the end all of all end alls, yall think that everyone that drives a base cobalt or any other tuner car are not as good as you
09-17-2008, 12:22 AM
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09-17-2008, 12:24 AM
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No **** about the cfm would of never knew that. Cause a gt35 turbo will do the same exact thing as a stock turbo would.(Being sarcastic) but we haven't talked about turbos or replacing a supercharger with a different one. Maybe a pullet but that's about it.
09-17-2008, 12:27 AM
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The Eclispe GT runs 14.0s in the quarter mile being there best times
The SS/SC runs 14.0s int he quarter mile being their best times...HOW is that not a driver's race.
I'm not going to group you with the 2.2L owners, most of them are intelligent and don't jump to conclusions all the time.
PS, my first car was a 2.2L.
You my friend, are illogical and don't know what you are talking about.
you use the logic because you beat one with a bad driver you can beat them all. I bet your girl's car is an auto anywho, you can't **** up, manual car can.
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09-17-2008, 12:29 AM
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No dude giving me way to much credit. I'm studying to be one. Still got a ways to go though. But thanks for the compliment lol.
And please educate me please what is different from your motor and a pt cruiser motor? Cause honestly I don't know(not being a smart ass and would actually like to know the difference)
And please educate me please what is different from your motor and a pt cruiser motor? Cause honestly I don't know(not being a smart ass and would actually like to know the difference)
09-17-2008, 12:38 AM
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No man I'm talking about between a non turbo pt cruiser motor and a turboed one? Except stuff to make the car run with the turbo. Is it a different block? Different internals? I know how my motor was designed. As far as what it can handle before it will blow up is still pending. And pretty much any car that is a performance that's not from the factory with a turbo or supercharger runs a high compression. Can't really name any off the top of my head.
09-17-2008, 12:39 AM
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What the **** are you talking about dude?! I never said my car is faster than all this ****. Ask Jackalope, I'm actually VERY real about my car.
The Eclispe GT runs 14.0s in the quarter mile being there best times
The SS/SC runs 14.0s int he quarter mile being their best times...HOW is that not a driver's race.
I'm not going to group you with the 2.2L owners, most of them are intelligent and don't jump to conclusions all the time.
PS, my first car was a 2.2L.
You my friend, are illogical and don't know what you are talking about.
STOCK FOR STOCK IS A ******* DRIVERS RACE WHAT IS SO HARD FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND?! THEY BOTH RUN 14.0 IN THE QUARTER MILES!
you use the logic because you beat one with a bad driver you can beat them all. I bet your girl's car is an auto anywho, you can't **** up, manual car can.
The Eclispe GT runs 14.0s in the quarter mile being there best times
The SS/SC runs 14.0s int he quarter mile being their best times...HOW is that not a driver's race.
I'm not going to group you with the 2.2L owners, most of them are intelligent and don't jump to conclusions all the time.
PS, my first car was a 2.2L.
You my friend, are illogical and don't know what you are talking about.
STOCK FOR STOCK IS A ******* DRIVERS RACE WHAT IS SO HARD FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND?! THEY BOTH RUN 14.0 IN THE QUARTER MILES!
you use the logic because you beat one with a bad driver you can beat them all. I bet your girl's car is an auto anywho, you can't **** up, manual car can.
09-17-2008, 12:40 AM
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09-17-2008, 12:46 AM
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Ya man reading you can learn a lot lol. But anyways bottom line everyone buys their cars for their reason and what they have in mind for a build. Sorry if I offended anyone. Still stand behind my point but I'm sure you do as well. But on another note when the f are they gonna start carrying f-in ss on the lot.
09-17-2008, 12:48 AM
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ok so your saying its a drivers race i can agree with that if what you say is true about the under rated hp but we will never know who will win because it can all be blamed on bad drivers, and yes my girls car is an 5speed auto with the sportstronic trans. because she was born with a birth defect and her left leg isnt as strong as her right, and thats the only reason, she can drive stick it just not as good as most cause its hard for her to push in the clutch
If that is your logic then no car will ever know its best driving.....
But if you see a list of all the eclipse GT stock times and the ss/sc stock times you'll see its a pretty close race and whichever one misses a gear or shifts to slow or hits the redline or ***** up, will end up costing them the race....which is the definition of a driver's race....which ever driver is better, stock for stock, he will most likely win. If both drivers are equal, it will be a neck to neck race most likely.
I'm not saying the ss/'sc is faster, i'm not saying its an uber fast car, its not, its quick car thats nice and fun to drive.
Ya man reading you can learn a lot lol. But anyways bottom line everyone buys their cars for their reason and what they have in mind for a build. Sorry if I offended anyone. Still stand behind my point but I'm sure you do as well. But on another note when the f are they gonna start carrying f-in ss on the lot.
I felt queezy.
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09-17-2008, 12:51 AM
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No man I'm talking about between a non turbo pt cruiser motor and a turboed one? Except stuff to make the car run with the turbo. Is it a different block? Different internals? I know how my motor was designed. As far as what it can handle before it will blow up is still pending. And pretty much any car that is a performance that's not from the factory with a turbo or supercharger runs a high compression. Can't really name any off the top of my head.
For isntance the might LS1 very high compression engine can only hold about 7-8 and be safe. anything more than that it will need to modifiied the bottom end.
09-17-2008, 12:55 AM
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Dude, ask ANYONE who knows what they are talking about. 99% of people know the ss/sc is underrated. do 1 minute of research and you'll find that.
If that is your logic then no car will ever know its best driving.....
But if you see a list of all the eclipse GT stock times and the ss/sc stock times you'll see its a pretty close race and whichever one misses a gear or shifts to slow or hits the redline or ***** up, will end up costing them the race....which is the definition of a driver's race....which ever driver is better, stock for stock, he will most likely win. If both drivers are equal, it will be a neck to neck race most likely.
I'm not saying the ss/'sc is faster, i'm not saying its an uber fast car, its not, its quick car thats nice and fun to drive.
the ss turbos 09 are already out. some guy dynoed 281whp on an 09 sedan.
I felt queezy.
If that is your logic then no car will ever know its best driving.....
But if you see a list of all the eclipse GT stock times and the ss/sc stock times you'll see its a pretty close race and whichever one misses a gear or shifts to slow or hits the redline or ***** up, will end up costing them the race....which is the definition of a driver's race....which ever driver is better, stock for stock, he will most likely win. If both drivers are equal, it will be a neck to neck race most likely.
I'm not saying the ss/'sc is faster, i'm not saying its an uber fast car, its not, its quick car thats nice and fun to drive.
the ss turbos 09 are already out. some guy dynoed 281whp on an 09 sedan.
I felt queezy.
09-17-2008, 01:01 AM
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Ya man reading you can learn a lot lol. But anyways bottom line everyone buys their cars for their reason and what they have in mind for a build. Sorry if I offended anyone. Still stand behind my point but I'm sure you do as well. But on another note when the f are they gonna start carrying f-in ss on the lot.
09-17-2008, 01:06 AM
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I'm so jealous. The 09's already make more power than the 08's....crazy....