6.0 gto vs tuned ss/tc
04-01-2009, 06:14 PM
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04-01-2009, 08:08 PM
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thats kinda what i was getting at, if you were to put full bolt-on's on that LS2 like headers intake throttle body all that snazz it would haul ***** flat out. just the IRS makes it tougher to launch.
you kidding man? if we are talking used. . . i could make my car do all that for under 25k, an old fox body mustang, a old Eagle talon, a old WRX, for that matter you could get an old pinto and for 25k make it handle better, stop better, and accelerate in a straight line better.
like i said i didnt know we were talking about 'brand new' cars smart ass.
and i just read C&D's quickest cars of 2009 from 20,000-25,000K and the Mazda speed 3 won. . . granted they used a 4 door cobalt SS, not sure why but hey. . .
ohh and i forgot all about the dodge Caliber SRT4 . . . just googled some times. . . stock they have gone 13.5 . . now again im not cutting down the Cobalts im a GM guy and would take the cobalt over the Caliber, but you asked me to find some and i did.
whats the stock SS/TC running on average?
you kidding man? if we are talking used. . . i could make my car do all that for under 25k, an old fox body mustang, a old Eagle talon, a old WRX, for that matter you could get an old pinto and for 25k make it handle better, stop better, and accelerate in a straight line better.
like i said i didnt know we were talking about 'brand new' cars smart ass.
and i just read C&D's quickest cars of 2009 from 20,000-25,000K and the Mazda speed 3 won. . . granted they used a 4 door cobalt SS, not sure why but hey. . .
ohh and i forgot all about the dodge Caliber SRT4 . . . just googled some times. . . stock they have gone 13.5 . . now again im not cutting down the Cobalts im a GM guy and would take the cobalt over the Caliber, but you asked me to find some and i did.
whats the stock SS/TC running on average?
04-02-2009, 08:52 AM
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04-02-2009, 10:17 AM
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it takes less money to make the cobalts go fast. power to weight raito. lighter = less money! and of course a gto driver and owner will chime in. in any race you run what you brung deal! if you get beat you get beat. wheather it is a ss beating a gto or a gto beating a ss. i ran a sstc through sec gear the other day in okc ok. him in front in the same lane he held my sec gear all the way. 35 to around 50 or so. 3rd gear i just walked on by. all i am saying is i do like your cars. and the tc's are fast little boogers. congrats on the half car length behind. and i am not argueing with anyone today. i am giving props like i did the other day!
04-02-2009, 10:22 AM
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it takes less money to make the cobalts go fast. power to weight raito. lighter = less money! and of course a gto driver and owner will chime in. in any race you run what you brung deal! if you get beat you get beat. wheather it is a ss beating a gto or a gto beating a ss. i ran a sstc through sec gear the other day in okc ok. him in front in the same lane he held my sec gear all the way. 35 to around 50 or so. 3rd gear i just walked on by. all i am saying is i do like your cars. and the tc's are fast little boogers. congrats on the half car length behind. and i am not argueing with anyone today. i am giving props like i did the other day!
04-02-2009, 06:16 PM
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It should be noted that I observed this SS/TC race the GTO in person and it was a dead heat for as far as I could tell.
It was an orange GTO and the mods its owner stated are the same mods that widoweight described.
It was an orange GTO and the mods its owner stated are the same mods that widoweight described.
04-02-2009, 07:02 PM
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I agree with everything you're saying to the fullest. And I can believe a tuned SS/TC beating a bolt on LS2 GTO, just not a cammed GTO, LS1 or LS2. And with your 1/4 mile times in your sig, there are bolt on and tuned SS/TC's running that fast, which you already said you knew they were quick, but they're getting FAST, LOL.
but yes the new cobalts are quick and good deals for the cost / performance ratio.
04-02-2009, 07:21 PM
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well said lol i will post the vids shortley ( making a compelation actually mr2w/20g, s2k, gto) the are uploading now lol
04-02-2009, 09:22 PM
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To get a 12 second car straight from the factory, you are paying upwards of atleast 30k, and that is just for a car that runs high 12's. If you want a stock car that runs low 12's with ease, you're gonna be paying atleast 50k, which the SS/TC was half of that brand new, and can hit 12's with just a couple bolt ons and a tune. Either way, the SS/TC is the best bang for the buck since the 03/04 Cobra.
04-02-2009, 09:32 PM
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To get a 12 second car straight from the factory, you are paying upwards of atleast 30k, and that is just for a car that runs high 12's. If you want a stock car that runs low 12's with ease, you're gonna be paying atleast 50k, which the SS/TC was half of that brand new, and can hit 12's with just a couple bolt ons and a tune. Either way, the SS/TC is the best bang for the buck since the 03/04 Cobra.
Lets not forget the WRX.
Yes a few k more but it sure does turn some nasty 60 runs and mid 13 quarters!
Just as mod-able as us too.
If I had a few more k, I would have grabbed one
04-03-2009, 09:59 AM
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To get a 12 second car straight from the factory, you are paying upwards of atleast 30k, and that is just for a car that runs high 12's. If you want a stock car that runs low 12's with ease, you're gonna be paying atleast 50k, which the SS/TC was half of that brand new, and can hit 12's with just a couple bolt ons and a tune. Either way, the SS/TC is the best bang for the buck since the 03/04 Cobra.
BTW, this is coming from a GM LS motor guy too...
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04-03-2009, 10:04 AM
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04-03-2009, 10:14 AM
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I believe the Supra was the must have car from the early to mid 90's, then came the LS1 F-body, then came the 03/04 Cobra, and now we have the SS/TC. Yeah the SS/TC isnt in the same category as the other cars in the past, all were RWD high horsepower monsters, but for around 18-22k, you can get a brand new SS/TC and runs 12's and still keep warranty and still have it your DD. You're right about how much HP this car can handle, but I'm sure this Spring or Summer we will find out. The new WRX is much better than the older one, but I think it's ugly and is priced too much, but it is a decent car compared to the earlier models.
04-04-2009, 10:40 AM
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I believe the Supra was the must have car from the early to mid 90's, then came the LS1 F-body, then came the 03/04 Cobra, and now we have the SS/TC. Yeah the SS/TC isnt in the same category as the other cars in the past, all were RWD high horsepower monsters, but for around 18-22k, you can get a brand new SS/TC and runs 12's and still keep warranty and still have it your DD. You're right about how much HP this car can handle, but I'm sure this Spring or Summer we will find out. The new WRX is much better than the older one, but I think it's ugly and is priced too much, but it is a decent car compared to the earlier models.
I too believe the TC is the best bang for the buck. 5K worth of mods and It is a real giant kiiler in a strait line and on an autocross course. It is already very good stock though.
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04-04-2009, 12:31 PM
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04-04-2009, 12:39 PM
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come on widow ur killin me. i wanna see my video too. i was flowwing the race but made the wrong turn i was so pissed off. but i ran an si and killed him from a 40 roll. i even started in 3rd gear once hahahah
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