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Old 05-14-2009, 01:25 PM
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'98 z28 vs SS/SC

Was out working on my H/E last night and ran my buddies Camaro. It has 3.73's, SLP Long tubes, 3" offroad Y-pipe, Borla catback, some sort of lid, and a Tune. We went from 50 to about 110 and he only put a car on me the first time, 2nd time he pulled a car in front through 2nd but missed 3rd and I stopped going.. Not bad for a OTT Stage 1 car..
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Guessing its an A4 seeing as he only went with 373's?

Nice race considering that car could probably trap 110+
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He needs to learn how to drive. An LS1 with those mods should trap 110+
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Originally Posted by coopn8r
Guessing its an A4 seeing as he only went with 373's?

Nice race considering that car could probably trap 110+
m6. car traps 109..
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That is a real bad showing, don't expect that next time. Maybe he started in 3rd?

What is a stage 1? Is that still pretty close to stock power?

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Ott stage 1 car with just the stage 1 should dyno around 250whp.

Seems like a low trap for those mods but very nice man Mod more!
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Originally Posted by 2MCHBoost
He needs to learn how to drive. An LS1 with those mods should trap 110+
I thought LS1's started in 99?
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98 is the only year ls1 that did not have the ls6 intake.. this car ran 13.6 @ 104 when it was stock. and his car is a dud really..
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Originally Posted by 2006RedCobaltSS
98 is the only year ls1 that did not have the ls6 intake.. this car ran 13.6 @ 104 when it was stock. and his car is a dud really..
ahhhh, alright, thanks.
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Thats not a bad stock time.. Could be due to driver error.. Could be a dud.. Who knows
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Originally Posted by 2MCHBoost
He needs to learn how to drive. An LS1 with those mods should trap 110+
u sure thats an LS1? Pretty sure only the 00-02's camaros and trans ams were LS engines.
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huh, thats crazy. So the lt's must have had a really short lifespan huh? The LT1 was probly the worst V8 engine GM ever made anyways.
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yeah its 98-02 is ls1's
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How was the LT1 that worst v8 engine GM made.. That engine is the ls1's big little brother.

It was not a bad engine in the least.. It had some issues that could have been better just like any motor, but it was far from a slouch and most lsj's on this site couldn't pull a full bolt on and geared lt1.. Its far from a slouch.
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LS1 with thoses mods should walk you hands down sorry

this is last years setup i was making 270WHP last year

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaUsr...e=channel_page
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Originally Posted by SlowLSJ
LS1 with thoses mods should walk you hands down sorry

this is last years setup i was making 270WHP last year

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaUsr...e=channel_page
Well, this may be true, but I beat him when he was stock on my old setup.
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lt1 wasn't the worst gen1 v8, just a bear to wrk on in an f-body
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
huh, thats crazy. So the lt's must have had a really short lifespan huh? The LT1 was probly the worst V8 engine GM ever made anyways.
How do you figure? The LT1 dominated the streets from 93-97. It was the fastest V8 out there till the LS1 was released. L98 was the worst V8 produced. Had ZERO top end and peaked out at 4800rpm.
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pretty funny that mid 14 second cars "dominated the streets" how sad is that

The LT1s are pretty slow, My best bud had a tweaked Volvo 850 T5 that shamed soooo many Z28s and Mutang GT's

In the LT1's defense, when coupled with a nice catback, produced some of the silkiest deepest V8 soundtracks ever.
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Originally Posted by 2MCHBoost
How do you figure? The LT1 dominated the streets from 93-97. It was the fastest V8 out there till the LS1 was released. L98 was the worst V8 produced. Had ZERO top end and peaked out at 4800rpm.
the lt1 is NO comparison to the ls series motor. No comparison. Those engines in particular had lots of problems from what I heard.

Theres a reason the ls series has been around for such a long time. The engines ROCK. The lt was more trouble than what its worth so it was scrapped after such a short stint.
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Originally Posted by MaxVQ35DE
The LT1s are pretty slow, My best bud had a tweaked Volvo 850 T5 that shamed soooo many Z28s and Mutang GT's
It's easy to beat on cars that have 150K+ miles. Stock LT1 cars in good condition are 14 flat at 99mph cars

Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
the lt1 is NO comparison to the ls series motor. No comparison. Those engines in particular had lots of problems from what I heard.

Theres a reason the ls series has been around for such a long time. The engines ROCK. The lt was more trouble than what its worth so it was scrapped after such a short stint.

It's more about technology. The LT1 is a gen 2 engine that is based on the Gen 1 SBC but with Reverse flow cooling and ungodly POS Optispark.

The Gen 3 LS1 was new in EVERY way. Even the bore/stroke wasn't even used from the Gen 1/2. The LS1's heads flowed as well as Nascar race heads from the early 90's

The facts are that most LT1's have over 150K on them and are beat to HELL which is why they perform like ass. I only defend the LT1 because i had an LT1 SS in the 90's and it was a beast.

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Originally Posted by 2MCHBoost
It's easy to beat on cars that have 150K+ miles. Stock LT1 cars in good condition are 14 flat at 99mph cars




It's more about technology. The LT1 is a gen 2 engine that is based on the Gen 1 SBC but with Reverse flow cooling and ungodly POS Optispark.

The Gen 3 LS1 was new in EVERY way. Even the bore/stroke wasn't even used from the Gen 1/2. The LS1's heads flowed as well as Nascar race heads from the early 90's

The facts are that most LT1's have over 150K on them and are beat to HELL which is why they perform like ass. I only defend the LT1 because i had an LT1 SS in the 90's and it was a beast.
dont get me wrong. Im sure they were awsome back in the day, but now a days not really. An lt1 has a really hard time competing with any current V8's. Except maybe a 4.6l modular non-FI. For whatever reason Ford thought it would be a good idea to make a low liter NA V8 that cant make power other than N20 of FI. And even if u run FI through it, you cant run much whp because the damn thing isnt forged.
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back in the day when i was as highschool aged punk, 99% of the brand new LT1s hardly ever cracked into the 13's without gears and all boltons. They really didnt have any topend. 14 flat is very very optimistic...
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Originally Posted by MaxVQ35DE
back in the day when i was as highschool aged punk, 99% of the brand new LT1s hardly ever cracked into the 13's without gears and all boltons. They really didnt have any topend. 14 flat is very very optimistic...
They were probably 2.73 cars then. Have seen TONS of bone stock M6 LT1's do 14.0-14.1 at 99-98 bone stock


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