Cobalt s2 vs Srt s2
08-06-2007, 04:02 PM
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yes that is what he told me he had i just didnt know what it was .... he said it wasnt working right or something.. ne ways he kept up with me then pass me like notihing the other times
08-06-2007, 04:06 PM
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you can use water injection without an intercooler...you can use it exactly the same way you use meth injection, but you only get the temp drop benefits and you get no increase in effective octane level like you do with meth.
08-06-2007, 07:35 PM
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That wastegate looks stock to me Maybe stage 2. It doesn't look like inserts to me, and the red line has nothing to do with the BOV it goes to the TPS. The pink line goes to the bov. A properly tuned stage 2 with DR will run 13.0-high 12s. Don't even start lsx cars are hand crafted by god. I have never seen a stock one under 13.3 which is still very good but bolt-ons on many cars will run the same. Even it had DRs and exhaust. Why do you even ask just race. No matter what anyone says here that is the only way to know. It will all come down to his tune. If he is running pig rich it should win, if he has it running good you could have probs. Run him from a dig. That is a real race.
08-06-2007, 08:30 PM
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08-06-2007, 11:24 PM
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That wastegate looks stock to me Maybe stage 2. It doesn't look like inserts to me, and the red line has nothing to do with the BOV it goes to the TPS. The pink line goes to the bov. A properly tuned stage 2 with DR will run 13.0-high 12s. Don't even start lsx cars are hand crafted by god. I have never seen a stock one under 13.3 which is still very good but bolt-ons on many cars will run the same. Even it had DRs and exhaust. Why do you even ask just race. No matter what anyone says here that is the only way to know. It will all come down to his tune. If he is running pig rich it should win, if he has it running good you could have probs. Run him from a dig. That is a real race.
08-06-2007, 11:35 PM
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I am not talking about an ls2 GTO. I am talking about ls1 TA/SS/GTOs. You are telling me 300 crank hp can run 12s in a 3klb plus car with out slicks/DRs? Ok. I would like to see a ls1 Vett stock break into the 12s with an avg. driver. I said 13.3 because of all the people I have heard/seen run a stock one that is the fastest. If stock they can run 12 my car must run low 12 because I eat stock ls1s on the street. I don't even hardly race them anymore unless I am really provoked.
08-07-2007, 02:10 AM
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08-07-2007, 02:17 AM
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I am not talking about an ls2 GTO. I am talking about ls1 TA/SS/GTOs. You are telling me 300 crank hp can run 12s in a 3klb plus car with out slicks/DRs? Ok. I would like to see a ls1 Vett stock break into the 12s with an avg. driver. I said 13.3 because of all the people I have heard/seen run a stock one that is the fastest. If stock they can run 12 my car must run low 12 because I eat stock ls1s on the street. I don't even hardly race them anymore unless I am really provoked.
08-07-2007, 02:27 AM
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well i gotta agree with the Goat owners
also u got the ptp wga...ur spikin 17 holdin 15...when i was on stock turbo..i had same mods as u expect i had maxfebb exhaust,and i was spiking 20 holdin 17-18,and ive lost to gto's on highway by about 1-2 cars or so..thats MANUAL TRANNY not auto
I am not talking about an ls2 GTO. I am talking about ls1 TA/SS/GTOs. You are telling me 300 crank hp can run 12s in a 3klb plus car with out slicks/DRs? Ok. I would like to see a ls1 Vett stock break into the 12s with an avg. driver. I said 13.3 because of all the people I have heard/seen run a stock one that is the fastest. If stock they can run 12 my car must run low 12 because I eat stock ls1s on the street. I don't even hardly race them anymore unless I am really provoked.
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08-07-2007, 08:31 AM
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That wastegate looks stock to me Maybe stage 2. It doesn't look like inserts to me, and the red line has nothing to do with the BOV it goes to the TPS. The pink line goes to the bov. A properly tuned stage 2 with DR will run 13.0-high 12s. Don't even start lsx cars are hand crafted by god. I have never seen a stock one under 13.3 which is still very good but bolt-ons on many cars will run the same. Even it had DRs and exhaust. Why do you even ask just race. No matter what anyone says here that is the only way to know. It will all come down to his tune. If he is running pig rich it should win, if he has it running good you could have probs. Run him from a dig. That is a real race.
Sorry pal but a LS1 F-Body will run 12's long before a weak ass Stage 2 Neon.
08-07-2007, 01:00 PM
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A tuned stage 2 can run high 12. Silly me I must have been running the v6 ones. I guess next time he tells me it is an ls1 I will call bs on him cause he should have smoked me by 100 cars. I will just have him pop his hood so I can count the plug wires. I also never said a ls1 will not run 12 but it pisses me off when people think ls1 cars are the only cars that can run 12s. I guess every other cars runs 13.0 and up. I spike 19 and hold 16 not that it matters I am missing 4 cyl. I can't run good without 8.
08-07-2007, 01:14 PM
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A tuned stage 2 can run high 12. Silly me I must have been running the v6 ones. I guess next time he tells me it is an ls1 I will call bs on him cause he should have smoked me by 100 cars. I will just have him pop his hood so I can count the plug wires. I also never said a ls1 will not run 12 but it pisses me off when people think ls1 cars are the only cars that can run 12s. I guess every other cars runs 13.0 and up. I spike 19 and hold 16 not that it matters I am missing 4 cyl. I can't run good without 8.
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08-07-2007, 02:33 PM
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08-07-2007, 03:32 PM
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Sorry I just prefer to read stuff thats true rather than fanboy BS.
I have two good friends with Neons that have stage 2 not fanboy stage 2+ but the real deal stage 2. From a roll of any speed thus to give then the advantage I still walk them by 2-3 cars to 110mph. My car is stock and has only ran low 13's around 109mph. From a dig it's ugly right after we take off.
A S2 eyesoretee-4 doesn't have the raw HP to run 12's, and it sure as hell isn't going to do it because of massive traction.
I have two good friends with Neons that have stage 2 not fanboy stage 2+ but the real deal stage 2. From a roll of any speed thus to give then the advantage I still walk them by 2-3 cars to 110mph. My car is stock and has only ran low 13's around 109mph. From a dig it's ugly right after we take off.
A S2 eyesoretee-4 doesn't have the raw HP to run 12's, and it sure as hell isn't going to do it because of massive traction.
08-07-2007, 03:42 PM
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I am not talking about an ls2 GTO. I am talking about ls1 TA/SS/GTOs. You are telling me 300 crank hp can run 12s in a 3klb plus car with out slicks/DRs? Ok. I would like to see a ls1 Vett stock break into the 12s with an avg. driver. I said 13.3 because of all the people I have heard/seen run a stock one that is the fastest. If stock they can run 12 my car must run low 12 because I eat stock ls1s on the street. I don't even hardly race them anymore unless I am really provoked.
08-07-2007, 03:43 PM
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Sorry I just prefer to read stuff thats true rather than fanboy BS.
I have two good friends with Neons that have stage 2 not fanboy stage 2+ but the real deal stage 2. From a roll of any speed thus to give then the advantage I still walk them by 2-3 cars to 110mph. My car is stock and has only ran low 13's around 109mph. From a dig it's ugly right after we take off.
A S2 eyesoretee-4 doesn't have the raw HP to run 12's, and it sure as hell isn't going to do it because of massive traction.
I have two good friends with Neons that have stage 2 not fanboy stage 2+ but the real deal stage 2. From a roll of any speed thus to give then the advantage I still walk them by 2-3 cars to 110mph. My car is stock and has only ran low 13's around 109mph. From a dig it's ugly right after we take off.
A S2 eyesoretee-4 doesn't have the raw HP to run 12's, and it sure as hell isn't going to do it because of massive traction.
08-07-2007, 05:13 PM
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As far as a tune I am talking about some sort of exhaust and a way to lean it out a lil. Most stage 2 cars run very rich that is why most SRTs are s1 or s3. A stage 2 is not tuned it is a plug and go system, you can get more out of it by adjusting the fuel and boost. I don't know why anyone would just bolt on a Stage 2 and go unless they didn't care about getting the most out of their car. If you do nothing a stage 2 car will run mid 13 with good tires and tune it is possible to get 12s out of it.
08-07-2007, 06:13 PM
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As far as a tune I am talking about some sort of exhaust and a way to lean it out a lil. Most stage 2 cars run very rich that is why most SRTs are s1 or s3. A stage 2 is not tuned it is a plug and go system, you can get more out of it by adjusting the fuel and boost. I don't know why anyone would just bolt on a Stage 2 and go unless they didn't care about getting the most out of their car. If you do nothing a stage 2 car will run mid 13 with good tires and tune it is possible to get 12s out of it.
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A Stage 2 car with nothing else dosn't run worth a crap. They are hardly faster than stock unless they are on HOM. Not worth the money at all, unless you add a few bolt ons.
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u forgot the extra 500rpm's u get lol..like that makes a diffrence..and also holds boost during WOT