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Old 06-08-2010 | 02:22 PM
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Which Camaro's are you talking about ? then new ones weigh almost 4000 but the old ones are 33-3400 lbs. My brothers bone stock 00 Z28 went 13.0 with 315 miles on it . I find it hard to believe that a 2.9 SC car is going to run with one that is in good mechanical shape with someone who can drive.
ok 3500 and the driver and a passanger = about 4k with 300 hp vs our little 2900 pound car with 250 hp. It is possiable and the z28 does the quarter mile in 13.8 sec stock. Our car easily does that with stage 2 kit. look at ralli and a few only people who have hit low 13s with hardly any mods done.

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Changes for 2000 were also largely cosmetic in nature. Monterey Maroon Metallic was added as an optional color, very similar to the previously-available Medium Patriot Red. The SS, however, was not available in this color. A new four-spoke steering wheel, as found in other GM models of the time, was introduced to replace the two-spoke steering wheel dating back to the 1993 cars. A new 10-spoke 16 in (41 cm) wheel became available, but the older 5-spokes were still available. The 3.8 L (232 cu in) V6 and 5.7 L (348 cu in) LS1 V8s continued with no changes.

0-60 MPH in Z28: 5.8 1/4 in Z28: 13.8
Old 06-08-2010 | 03:07 PM
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The slowest stock LS1 F-body I've seen run went 13.6 with the majority running low 13's ....13.1 13.3. 13.8 hahah thats LT1 territory.
Old 06-08-2010 | 03:09 PM
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Ur retarded I beat a ls1 camaro with exhaust with just stg2, intake, and full exhaust. And me and chris were always a good race with him being just a bit faster.
I love how this forum never believes a cobalt can beat anything. It could be a lsj vs a stock matrix and ppl would call bs
no youre retarded, im calling complete BS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVG0ZaT-BuA This is me and Bika with meth and he was running a 2.8. We were dead even, bumper to bumper to about 120. No ******* way you beat an LS1 with just stage two. Stock LS1's run low 13s stock, and theres no way an SSSC is touching that stock, even with stage 2. GTFO.
Old 06-08-2010 | 03:09 PM
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So in other words you're mad because you and your brothers camaro was slower than dog ****.. Correct?

Yeah ..... I'm mad lol. Never said they were fast . Your 2.9 car must be an animal . Whats it run in the 1/4?

My slow as **** LT1 car went 13.58 @106 ...... his LS1 went 13.01 @ 108 STOCK If you can beat that with a 2.9 and no bottle I'd love to see the slip.
Old 06-08-2010 | 03:16 PM
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Yeah ..... I'm mad lol. Never said they were fast . Your 2.9 car must be an animal . Whats it run in the 1/4?

My slow as **** LT1 car went 13.58 @106 ...... his LS1 went 13.01 @ 108 STOCK If you can beat that with a 2.9 and no bottle I'd love to see the slip.
he cant show you a slip because it didnt ******* happen. The cobalt is a great car and its quick, but seriously nutswingers make me lol.

Originally Posted by ChriSS/SC
So in other words you're mad because you and your brothers camaro was slower than dog ****.. Correct?
hahaha i gurantee my cut out, lid, and tuned ls1 would rape face on your 2.9 lol. **** ill even throw down cash on that run, we can even go from a 40 roll just like the video i posted.
Old 06-08-2010 | 03:23 PM
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he cant show you a slip because it didnt ******* happen. The cobalt is a great car and its quick, but seriously nutswingers make me lol.
I love my SS/TC ..... I loved my SS/SC they are both great cars . I just hate seeing bullshit started cause it makes cobalt owners look like a joke. Anyone that knows LS1's and cobalt's must just shake their head when they see this **** ........ 13.8 lol what a joke WIKI FTMFL .
Old 06-08-2010 | 03:26 PM
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I love my SS/TC ..... I loved my SS/SC they are both great cars . I just hate seeing bullshit started cause it makes cobalt owners look like a joke. Anyone that knows LS1's and cobalt's must just shake their head when they see this **** ........ 13.8 lol what a joke WIKI FTMFL .
a 13.8 is possible with helen keller behind the wheel on a track with no prep.
Old 06-08-2010 | 03:58 PM
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Ok well I beat him idc wat ur ls1 did to anyone not every car is the same. And ur callin bs on me and chris which both were just as fast as each other we beat the almighty ls1...sorry our cars run good

O and stop being a queer and challenging ppl to rolls on the other side of the country.

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Old 06-08-2010 | 04:19 PM
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Are you LS1 fanboys tired of crying yet?

I said this clearly and I'll say it again.. This LS1 SHOULD be able to get me on a dig OR roll (on paper).. Never did I say my cobalt can run or trap in the quarter what an LS1 potentially can. Am I still nut-swinging on the cobalt? NO. Because I never was. But we raced and the outcome is the outcome. The video is there. Did I claim to be able to beat every LS1 out there? NO.

If you want to cry and start **** why don't you get in contact with this camaro dude that I raced and teach him how to bring out the all mighty potential in his LS1 (a.k.a god)
Old 06-08-2010 | 04:23 PM
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LOL OK WHAT? I had an LT1 car ... my brother an LS1 ...i've seen both of them degrade over time . Up around 100k they need a freshing up most times period . Both cars progressively fell off in ET's toward 100K . I
You and your brother suck at maintanance. My 165k mile LT1 ran 12.8s with bolt ons.
Old 06-08-2010 | 04:26 PM
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Ok anyone who thinks a cobalt ss with a 2.9 and 42s cant keep up or beat a ls1 check you tube. cobalt ss vs camaro and you will see them beating the camaro.
Old 06-08-2010 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ChriSS/SC
Are you LS1 fanboys tired of crying yet?

I said this clearly and I'll say it again.. This LS1 SHOULD be able to get me on a dig OR roll (on paper).. Never did I say my cobalt can run or trap in the quarter what an LS1 potentially can. Am I still nut-swinging on the cobalt? NO. Because I never was. But we raced and the outcome is the outcome. The video is there. Did I claim to be able to beat every LS1 out there? NO.

If you want to cry and start **** why don't you get in contact with this camaro dude that I raced and teach him how to bring out the all mighty potential in his LS1 (a.k.a god)
Lol that's wat I'm saying. Every car is different
Old 06-08-2010 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by drew1991sf
Ok well I beat him idc wat ur ls1 did to anyone not every car is the same. And ur callin bs on me and chris which both were just as fast as each other we beat the almighty ls1...sorry our cars run good

O and stop being a queer and challenging ppl to rolls on the other side of the country.
I understand that, and understand your car cant take down all stock ls1s.

Originally Posted by ChriSS/SC
Are you LS1 fanboys tired of crying yet?

I said this clearly and I'll say it again.. This LS1 SHOULD be able to get me on a dig OR roll (on paper).. Never did I say my cobalt can run or trap in the quarter what an LS1 potentially can. Am I still nut-swinging on the cobalt? NO. Because I never was. But we raced and the outcome is the outcome. The video is there. Did I claim to be able to beat every LS1 out there? NO.

If you want to cry and start **** why don't you get in contact with this camaro dude that I raced and teach him how to bring out the all mighty potential in his LS1 (a.k.a god)
How about i dont, but someone should teach him to drive.

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Ok anyone who thinks a cobalt ss with a 2.9 and 42s cant keep up or beat a ls1 check you tube. cobalt ss vs camaro and you will see them beating the camaro.
thats funny because i posted a video 2.8 with meth, and we were even. 95% of the time, they wont be beating the camaro. He dynoed 260 that day, theres no way with his tuning abilities that someone with a 2.9 is going to put more then that down.
Old 06-08-2010 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by rukkee
The slowest stock LS1 F-body I've seen run went 13.6 with the majority running low 13's ....13.1 13.3. 13.8 hahah thats LT1 territory.
You guys must have an optimistic track lol, the fastest ice ever seen a bolton LT1 go was around 14.2 on DRs... There is a guy I know that's full boltons and cammed that went 13.0 with full slicks with an LT1 though. There are a lot of LS1s doing 14s, but for the most part stock ones are running high 13s in the lower 100 range.
Old 06-08-2010 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Chase0224
I understand that, and understand your car cant take down all stock ls1s.



How about i dont, but someone should teach him to drive.



thats funny because i posted a video 2.8 with meth, and we were even. 95% of the time, they wont be beating the camaro. He dynoed 260 that day, theres no way with his tuning abilities that someone with a 2.9 is going to put more then that down.
Get a better tune haha. I was side by side with my 2.9 and 42s so If you where running 2.8 and meth then there is somthing wrong if you are side by side with him.
I am not talking about hp here I am talking about hp to weight ratio.
Old 06-08-2010 | 05:17 PM
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Get a better tune haha. I was side by side with my 2.9 and 42s so If you where running 2.8 and meth then there is somthing wrong if you are side by side with him.
I am not talking about hp here I am talking about hp to weight ratio.
no my tuner bika who is a respected tuner on here ran ME in my Camaro. He was side by side. HE just put down 260 on a 2.8 which is GOOD numbers for one. IM not talking HP either im talking what happens and what doesnt normally happen. 95% of the time a 2.9 will not keep up with an LS1. And when we ran it was from a 40 roll the cobalts sweet spot, he wouldve been murdered from a dig. You guys are so full of yourselves, I know what a cobalt can do, ive been there and done that, and then realized how ******* stupid it was to do it.
Old 06-08-2010 | 05:31 PM
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I don't even own a cobalt anymore. Never said I could beat all ls1s but I beat that one.
Old 06-08-2010 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by supernova1972
You and your brother suck at maintanance. My 165k mile LT1 ran 12.8s with bolt ons.
i seriously loled
Old 06-08-2010 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by supernova1972
You and your brother suck at maintanance. My 165k mile LT1 ran 12.8s with bolt ons.

I bought my car new and sold it with 90K on ..... went a 13.58 best and ran 14's last time i ran it . It had piston slap from the factory and i found an intake leak shortly before i sold it . My car was maintained like a god ....I was 20 with a new Z28 that i paid for myself ...... how do you think i took care of it .


So your 165K mile LT went 12.8 and you were never in the motor once? same piston's rings and optispark?
Maintained is one thing mods are another . Unless that 12.8 was in a go kart

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You guys must have an optimistic track lol, the fastest ice ever seen a bolton LT1 go was around 14.2 on DRs... There is a guy I know that's full boltons and cammed that went 13.0 with full slicks with an LT1 though. There are a lot of LS1s doing 14s, but for the most part stock ones are running high 13s in the lower 100 range.
Must be cause my LT1 went consistant 13.60's to back up the .58 @106 . Mine was a stripper with crank windows and manual locks ..hardtop. I had a cat delete , catback and intake.
My brother still has his 13.0 slips from 10 years ago ... and his 12.92@113 with 4:10's lid and catback.... all on street tires . It was at NYIRP in western ny.

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Old 06-08-2010 | 06:14 PM
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Are you LS1 fanboys tired of crying yet?

I said this clearly and I'll say it again.. This LS1 SHOULD be able to get me on a dig OR roll (on paper).. Never did I say my cobalt can run or trap in the quarter what an LS1 potentially can. Am I still nut-swinging on the cobalt? NO. Because I never was. But we raced and the outcome is the outcome. The video is there. Did I claim to be able to beat every LS1 out there? NO.

If you want to cry and start **** why don't you get in contact with this camaro dude that I raced and teach him how to bring out the all mighty potential in his LS1 (a.k.a god)

you just keep quiet concerning the LS2........ or else......
Old 06-08-2010 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by drew1991sf
Ok well I beat him idc wat ur ls1 did to anyone not every car is the same. And ur callin bs on me and chris which both were just as fast as each other we beat the almighty ls1...sorry our cars run good

O and stop being a queer and challenging ppl to rolls on the other side of the country.
I didn't say it didn't happen .... I just said LS1 Fbodys are getting old and up there in the mileage . The roll racing I have no comment about........I've never called anyone out in the last 4 years i've been here.


Originally Posted by ChriSS/SC
Are you LS1 fanboys tired of crying yet?

I said this clearly and I'll say it again.. This LS1 SHOULD be able to get me on a dig OR roll (on paper).. Never did I say my cobalt can run or trap in the quarter what an LS1 potentially can. Am I still nut-swinging on the cobalt? NO. Because I never was. But we raced and the outcome is the outcome. The video is there. Did I claim to be able to beat every LS1 out there? NO.

If you want to cry and start **** why don't you get in contact with this camaro dude that I raced and teach him how to bring out the all mighty potential in his LS1 (a.k.a god)
Again ....i didn't cry about the LS car ...I made a point about them getting up there in age and you made one of your typical smart ass comments . Then called a car i sold almost 10 years ago slow lol. Not saying it was fast but for back in 95 when i bought it new .... it was the best bang for the buck.
Old 06-08-2010 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by supernova1972
You and your brother suck at maintanance. My 165k mile LT1 ran 12.8s with bolt ons.
So true. My 96 has over 140k with just a 2800 stall and a battery relocate. runs 12.8 all day.
Old 06-08-2010 | 09:25 PM
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So true. My 96 has over 140k with just a 2800 stall and a battery relocate. runs 12.8 all day.
So you guys are telling me that you have 140,000 mile plus LT1's that have never had the heads off or been freshened up in anyway .... running 12's consistantly .

I'm not baggin on the LT cars I loved mine and it was the most trouble free car i've ever owned .... never used a drop of anything . It had an intake leak at around 80K that I fixed and that was it .
It had at least 200 ( prolly closer to 300) passes on it over it's life span so I had a real good idea how it started to lose a couple tenths as i got up there in age . Again....I loved the car but if you guys honestly think the LT1's make the same power at 10K miles that they do at 100K ....somethings wrong. I had the same mod's with nothing changed for 80k miles .
Old 06-08-2010 | 10:11 PM
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Yup... lt1s are strong. My 4l60e has been out twice. Once before I owned it and I built her the second time. The motor has never been touched. Those cars were expensive back in the day so some people took care of them.
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rukke i wasnt talking to u i was talking to chase.


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