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Old 04-16-2009, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
they might, i could care less. i just think its funny when people say "you cant run with a pulleyd cobra" SO many other variables
I am a past and present cobalt owner yellow ss/sc and now a black ss/tc so I have no biased and theres no way a 110mph car should hang with a 118mph car from a roll. Unless that 118 mph car spins its ass off Im just not seeing this happening.
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What you guys have to understand is what kind of effect a pulley swap has on a blown 4v. You have to realize when you increase the pressure by 2psi on the terminator it is flowing WAY MORE in comparison to a 2psi increase on the m62. You guys may see a good increase with a pulley swap, imagine that with 3x the effect. Simple pulley swap/bolt on cobras make power ranging from the mid 400's up and they make peak torque nearly instantly. Go look on svtp, not even at the "fastest times" thread, just look around at people's signatures. Minor bolt on cobras are going 11's with FIRST TIME TRACK DRIVERS.
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
they might, i could care less. i just think its funny when people say "you cant run with a pulleyd cobra" SO many other variables



you cant go into details, because you cant come up with any hard evidence besides what you "believe"
don't waste your breath. I have been saying this since these mustang fanboi threads started. I will admit straight out that I do a lot of street/highway racing. I've seen myself hang/beat plenty of cars from a roll in races that would have had a completely different outcome from a dig.

completely different game when you take away that suck-ass 60' on a FWD.
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i can see that point. that doesnt make the power vs. weight argument any less important at speed though.
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
they might, i could care less. i just think its funny when people say "you cant run with a pulleyd cobra" SO many other variables



you cant go into details because you cant come up with any hard evidence besides what you "believe"

No I am leaving work right now as my brother got ran off the road. Like I said, I am pretty sure no Physics classes (atleast none I was in) did examples like this, but if you find a physics problem showing these I would love to see it!

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Originally Posted by coopn8r
I'll actually be racing a pullied Cobra in 2 weeks with vids.. Should be interesting and it'll probably start a huge flame war
no it wont because you'll lose.
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
you cant go into details because you cant come up with any hard evidence besides what you "believe"
Didnt you know cars were designed to where when you go faster the aerodynamics make the car get pushed up not down... less resistance... get it?
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Originally Posted by tryit
I am a past and present cobalt owner yellow ss/sc and now a black ss/tc so I have no biased and theres no way a 110mph car should hang with a 118mph car from a roll. Unless that 118 mph car spins its ass off Im just not seeing this happening.
where the hit occurs in the power band can affect it as well, and i never claimed i "hung with him" i said i lost and where i was at when it happened. he opened up that gap in 45-50mph, and the gap would have increased.
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
imaginary 110 traps? please dont make me post the vid of me going 113 (bad traction day)

stock cobras run what times at best?
So you mightbe about to hang with a stock one then. Not pullied.
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Originally Posted by amxguy1970
No I am leaving work right now as my brother got ran off the road. Like I said, I am pretty sure no Physics classes (atleast none I was in) did examples like this, but if you find a physics problem showing these I would love to see it!

Tyler
you mean like an object accelerating in a vacuum. i bet thats pretty common lol.
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
no it wont because you'll lose.
I doubt that, he traps 115.
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
i can see that point. that doesnt make the power vs. weight argument any less important at speed though.

I am catching the tail end of this and dont want to read back. Horsepower can compensate for weight. If you dont belive me go to the drag strip watch old big cars hang the wheels. Maybe in road racing this plays a larger role but in drag racing not really.
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Originally Posted by 1100psi
So you mightbe about to hang with a stock one then. Not pullied.
k your ever present "pullied cobra"

what times does it run? again, what does a stock one run?

ps. i really hope you find just a pullied cobra for times, instead of using a pullied one with dr's, bolt-ons, etc.
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The other night I was running a stock 09 ZR1 Vette, (with just X pipe) I missed 2nd, but he stopped pulling once I got into the top of 4th............. It really happened because I trap 107MPH and the vette only traps like 128. It was close, he only got me by about 2 car lengths....................
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Originally Posted by tryit
I am catching the tail end of this and dont want to read back. Horsepower can compensate for weight. If you dont belive me go to the drag strip watch old big cars hang the wheels. Maybe in road racing this plays a larger role but in drag racing not really.
LOL WHAT??? its a RATIO. obvoiusly one can affect the other BECAUSE ITS A ******* RATIO. this was the single dumbest post in this entire thread. drag racers, road racers, i cant think of a single racer that would rather have a heavy car as opposed to a light one. obviously HP is GREAT, but weight is equally as important
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
k your ever present "pullied cobra"

what times does it run? again, what does a stock one run?

ps. i really hope you find just a pullied cobra for times, instead of using a pullied one with dr's, bolt-ons, etc.
I take it you arent very smart. How many pullied cobra owners run stock tires stock exhaust and no bolt ons. Come on now, I see common sense isnt your strong point.
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Originally Posted by tryit
I take it you arent very smart. How many pullied cobra owners run stock tires stock exhaust and no bolt ons. Come on now, I see common sense isnt your strong point.
I know of one and he is a friend.. He wanted to pully it so he did, he can't afford the rest of the **** at the moment and it isn't that important to him. There are a lot of guys on stock exhaust and stock tires..
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lol im not saying most due, im simply pointing out the flaw in his blanket statement of "you cant run with pullied cobras"
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
LOL WHAT??? its a RATIO. obvoiusly one can affect the other BECAUSE ITS A ******* RATIO. this was the single dumbest post in this entire thread. drag racers, road racers, i cant think of a single racer that would rather have a heavy car as opposed to a light one. obviously HP is GREAT, but weight is equally as important
How is it equally as important? Follow closely it seems your young and cant really follow this, maybe you should get up take some add meds take a nice walk and maybe you can concentrate better. How is weight equally important? Any car can be made faster at its current weight.
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Originally Posted by tryit
How is it equally as important? Follow closely it seems your young and cant really follow this, maybe you should get up take some add meds take a nice walk and maybe you can concentrate better. How is weight equally important? Any car can be made faster at its current weight.
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omg. just remember guys, you cant make a car faster by removing weight, just by adding hp.
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
lol im not saying most due, im simply pointing out the flaw in his blanket statement of "you cant run with pullied cobras"
can you run with a cammed/bolt on c5 z06? sure, if you use a cam with too much overlap or too little duration, you might be making less power than stock, so hey you could run with one!


let's be realistic. 99% of cobra owners that do an upper swap will be doing at least some supporting mods. Even a pulley/tune ONLY car will be making in the 420rwhp range and that's with a larger pulley. bolt on, 2.8" cars are making ~440rwhp. You want to get into ported blower/meth guys, you're talkin around 500rwhp. There are no dead spots, there is no spool time.
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
omg. just remember guys, you cant make a car faster by removing weight, just by adding hp.
haha.... sarcasm?

Lotus Elise anyone????
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Originally Posted by drewbroo
The other night I was running a stock 09 ZR1 Vette, (with just X pipe) I missed 2nd, but he stopped pulling once I got into the top of 4th............. It really happened because I trap 107MPH and the vette only traps like 128. It was close, he only got me by about 2 car lengths....................
Well my car traps a whopin 113 and i hangat their rear bumper....so they are WAY over rated!
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oops. nm.


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