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Old 10-17-2012, 09:11 PM
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Cobalt SS/TVS vs Cobalt SS/TC

Ok guys here is my senerio. I have an 05 Cobalt SS that I am getting ready to bolt a TVS with a 2.9in pulley and 80#ers, also either run E85 or 50/50Meth and after all that fun I will be getting tuned by James. His Cobalt is a full bolt on tc version with a 28psi tune and is currently making 325hp and 414tq. I was wondering what y'all guys had to think about who the winner would be. Race and vids will be posted next month just wanted to get some thoughts on how this might turn out for me.....
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Hard to say, ive seen TVS balts beat tuned LNFS and tuned LNFs beat TVS. Im gonna say you since your running E.
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Put parts on, race and see. When I was on stock head, 2.9 and 22* max timing (colder weather tune), I raced my friends trifecta tuned 23 psi dp and exhaust TC. First run from 40 I had about a car on him befoere he missed 3rd, then the second run I spun 2nd and he hooked and I came around him about a car by the top of 3rd. I posted the vid somewhere. Ill look for it.
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Ok infra I would love to see that
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Look him up on Youtube. His car is a machine. It was the reason why I went TVS when I did.
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Here is the race. Its at the end of the video at 4:45. Also, at :15 at the beginning is the first run against the TC where I hook 2nd, but you can see when he misses 3rd so I just used it as filler lol.

Ion Redline Racing Compilation - YouTube
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James is on the s20g, not the k04. I'd have to say James....he'll tune you so he wins no matter what
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James is on the s20g, not the k04. I'd have to say James....he'll tune you so he wins no matter what
Lol no bud Im not racing James. Im running my buddy who has a k04 full bolt on ss
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You don't have the torque that he does. That is why the newer turbo versions are so quick. He will get you out of the whole. Put the parts on and get some video.
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id say tvs balt wins
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anybody have any good 60-100 videos of a built TVS balt? im just curious. i havent seen much.
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LOL james has a tad more than 325... def not talking about him
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Originally Posted by Bad-A-SS
Ok guys here is my senerio. I have an 05 Cobalt SS that I am getting ready to bolt a TVS with a 2.9in pulley and 80#ers, also either run E85 or 50/50Meth and after all that fun I will be getting tuned by James. His Cobalt is a full bolt on tc version with a 28psi tune and is currently making 325hp and 414tq. I was wondering what y'all guys had to think about who the winner would be. Race and vids will be posted next month just wanted to get some thoughts on how this might turn out for me.....
Tell u what I think, if he doesn't turn down the boost on that stock turbo a ring land will go boom. Check around. It happens to everyone running over 24 psi on stock
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mine never went boom at that psi. ran that tune for quite a while too. It was M-dub's tune, but tweaked for my car.
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Originally Posted by Dart_SI
anybody have any good 60-100 videos of a built TVS balt? im just curious. i havent seen much.
my car
20g turbo lsj {i think}
and some goober in an sti
TVS vs. Turbo LJS vs. STI - YouTube
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wow, you were right there with him!

any idea how much power the 20g balt was making?
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350-400 whp.
he jumped. i still pulled him.
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thats a nasty vid. an OP there's only 1 way to find out....
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Originally Posted by Dart_SI
anybody have any good 60-100 videos of a built TVS balt? im just curious. i havent seen much.
Comparing 60-100 times from a TVS car to a SS/TC is kinda tough because we dont have the torque spike down low. On a 3rd gear pull the TC might have a faster 60-100 time, but during a race the TVS car may take the win. TVS loves to rev. I do 60 rolls in 2nd gear

Here's a video of me doing a 55 roll against a ~360whp Evo X turbo swapped ralliart on E85. Ran it out to 140. At the track he ran a 12.1 with a 1.8 60' for comparision. He cut a 60-100 in 4.6 seconds when we were tuning with 3 people in the car.

TVS Ion Redline vs. Ralliart with Evo X swap - YouTube
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Damn Infra your Ion is so quick... Oh and no more thoughts of E guys no damn stations around here. I found one but its not public....I figure I am gonna get beat but oh well Idc I wanna run him anyways You never know who might be the better driver
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And once all my parts are put on I will get y'all a Dyno sheet and some logs hopefully
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Next best option is meth. Trust me, you want some octane for that TVS.

Area, I remember when you posted that video a couple years back and it started some good debate
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Yeah but Im sure I want break but maybe 320hp and about 270tq but Still I wanna see what she can do against a TURDBALT
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Originally Posted by InfraRedline
Next best option is meth. Trust me, you want some octane for that TVS.

Area, I remember when you posted that video a couple years back and it started some good debate
rob is the one i raced. marissa is the one who taped it. 06black is the one who screamed


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