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Old 07-02-2012, 01:28 AM
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Cobalt SS vs 335i JB4

Did some late night runs with a buddy of mine in Mexico.

He has JB4 on e85 with map 5 14PSI. (Not racegas file)
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2010 Cobalt SS KN SRI, badmab 3" catless DP, CX racing intercooler, Trifecta tune 23 PSI.

His car is definitely much faster. He put down 430 whp on dynojet with the racegas file.

2010 Cobalt SS vs 09 e90 335i - YouTube
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Next time you do runs, hit me up. I'd like a go at it.
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Originally Posted by 40rty
Next time you do runs, hit me up. I'd like a go at it.
Definitely bro, I'll keep you posted. You're a bit far from us though lol!
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whats all this limp bullshit? you got a nice car with a garbage tune?
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Its that damn overheating/limp mode that 335i do...thats why they are unreliable, and why i am questioning getting one..looks like the cobalt is a faster car till 120, and after who cares, if you do highway rolls or drag....who is ever gonna do top speed runs?
That car has e85 too, so thats disappointing if you ask me...
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those races were way too safe. you def need more traffic
Old 07-02-2012, 10:34 AM
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The 335 needs to lose the ricer mod -- excuses. "No traction" "Limp mode" blah blah blah. Sounds like every "built" Honda I've ever raced. Fact of the matter is, the cheap, POS Cobalt was the better car here for 4 out of 5 runs.
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BMW doesn't know how to drive, my buddy is on stock all seasons with no problems..
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Meth might work better than e85, then he could turn the boost up. Lotta variables in there. Those beemers do heatsoak which is annoying. My friends 4door has random problems like that, but he's running pump/meth and occasionally racegas/meth. Has managed a 12.1@118 at the track so far. Very quick 4door.

This one looks decent, but very inconsistant
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You guys gotta remember. He's on map 5 which is an Autotune map. Its only like 14-15 psi conservative not racegas file thats why he goes into limp. His car will destroy mine as it did when we did a higher roll race and he got traction.

I'm surprised my car did so well to be honest, he knows what's up. This is a little comparo run before I go big turbo.... whenever it decides to come.
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Interesting. What was the E85 mix? 50/50 with 91 octane? The stock inter cooler in the 335 is a piece of junk. He had no downpipes or intake either? The car was adapted to the E85? He was using the right firmware?

Looked very inconsistent.

I've never has a limp mode from overheating.
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if the bimmer wasnt having so many problems maybe you could of showed us the high rolls. or maybe those excuse's were not thought of yet. we know the cobalt should lose tho lol nice vid! excuse's or hes a bad driver.
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135i FTW.
eff the 335i. thats not a go fast car.
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Nice runs my brotha and I don't think nobody like your car with bigger turbo around these woods.
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Originally Posted by scottp999
Interesting. What was the E85 mix? 50/50 with 91 octane? The stock inter cooler in the 335 is a piece of junk. He had no downpipes or intake either? The car was adapted to the E85? He was using the right firmware?

Looked very inconsistent.

I've never has a limp mode from overheating.
Do you have post-homing radar concerning 335i's?

Registered since 08 with like 45 posts and BAM! you nail this thread instantly.
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Originally Posted by scottp999
Interesting. What was the E85 mix? 50/50 with 91 octane? The stock inter cooler in the 335 is a piece of junk. He had no downpipes or intake either? The car was adapted to the E85? He was using the right firmware?

Looked very inconsistent.

I've never has a limp mode from overheating.
I don't know the exact details on what happened. It is straight e85 from the pump from what I know. Stock car, tune only. JB4 with e85.

Alpinedevil335 is the guy.

Originally Posted by Gobolt210
if the bimmer wasnt having so many problems maybe you could of showed us the high rolls. or maybe those excuse's were not thought of yet. we know the cobalt should lose tho lol nice vid! excuse's or hes a bad driver.
His car is still definitely faster haha. Traction is hard with 400wtq or so all through the RPM LOL!

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Nice runs my brotha and I don't think nobody like your car with bigger turbo around these woods.
Yea, not too many will be happy losing to a cobalt haha.
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Originally Posted by AARON-SS-TC
Its that damn overheating/limp mode that 335i do...thats why they are unreliable, and why i am questioning getting one..looks like the cobalt is a faster car till 120, and after who cares, if you do highway rolls or drag....who is ever gonna do top speed runs?
That car has e85 too, so thats disappointing if you ask me...
unreliable ?
they are no where near unreliable..

by what i read from the cobalts forums... and what i read on the BMW forums... those BMWs are A LOT more reliable than cobalts...


anywho... now thats settled...

hadji! nice runs! i was surprised to see you keep up soo well all those runs... he needs intake and go catless DP asap tho... haha
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Originally Posted by Fastgti69

His car is still definitely faster haha. Traction is hard with 400wtq or so all through the RPM LOL!
400wtq Cobalts on street tires don't have nearly half of that 335's "no traction" issues bunch of bs. No matter what speed you guys ran from, he was either having "traction issues" or the "limp" issues.
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Originally Posted by Boosted4
400wtq Cobalts on street tires don't have nearly half of that 335's "no traction" issues bunch of bs. No matter what speed you guys ran from, he was either having "traction issues" or the "limp" issues.
I dont have traction in second... but I can imagine if I had 400wtq I would probably have issues in third with stock tires like he's running.
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Originally Posted by Fastgti69
I dont have traction in second... but I can imagine if I had 400wtq I would probably have issues in third with stock tires like he's running.
were they bald? because i dont think they should have problems with traction
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400wtq for them isn't that much to lose traction. Heavy as hell and with good tires you shouldn't break your tires loose to much specially with rwd. Does he have shitty tires?
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Originally Posted by Fastgti69
I dont have traction in second... but I can imagine if I had 400wtq I would probably have issues in third with stock tires like he's running.
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were they bald? because i dont think they should have problems with traction
^^ This. My car should be at or very near 400wtq, and from a 40 hit in 2nd I break traction for a little then I'm back in it. Shift to 3rd and no traction issues.

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400wtq for them isn't that much to lose traction. Heavy as hell and with good tires you shouldn't break your tires loose to much specially with rwd. Does he have shitty tires?
^^^ and this. generally speaking, as you probably already know, rwd > fwd in terms of traction.
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You gotta talk to the guy about that then. Stock tires are not that good on that car.
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