I guess everyone should believe everything they see on paper

 

No most definitely not, but the closest thing to reality in an argument about cars, are the numbers that the mags put out. They, for the most part, have a completely non biased opinion.

On this debate I think its pretty clear, the SRT-4 is faster in the Quarter mile. If the race was 1/4 mile than the SRT-4 should win (if it was shorter, the likelihood of an SS winning is more plausible). Unless of course, the driver is a complete idiot. So yeah it's a driver’s race, but the SRT-4 driver would have to be really bad and the SS driver really good.

If you start throwing upgrades in, than the SRT-4 would have a distinct advantage, at least at this juncture. So mentioning new tires, and the sort is really not relevant to the overall debate.

OneLung at what speed were you guys shutting down?

 

I find that hard to believe.

 

What is hard to believe? That they have a non-biased opinion?

 

it may seem like some people (including me) bash the ss...which i dont think we all mean to do. some do, some dont. if i feel something is off, ill make it known, but in this case, i dont. there are more bad drivers then good drivers, which im sure we can all attest to. but regarding magazine specs, they are always off. very rarely are they on the nose.

who here recalls the motor trend article? ss had a shorter 0-100 time then it did in the 1/4, where it trapped at like 98mph or something. and they buffed the srt numbers..neither article matched the other, and blamed it on weather and mathematical equations and other b.s. question dodging answers. id rahter get my facts from someones mouth and my own eyes, not a magazine and random people i will never meet over the net.

ive seen a few ss's around here, but have yet to run one...im hoping i will see a couple this weekend.

some of you peeps should come out to the srt nationals next year, its open to all cars.

 

MoronSS, let me say again: Every SRT-4 (baring a factory lemon) comes out of the factory CAPABLE of running a 13 second 1/4 mile. Just because 80% of them aren't bought by people with the driving skills to run the car to its potential does not mean the car is not capable.

Get your head out of your ass and your attitude might not stink so much.

 

You took the words right out of my mouth.

 

Since when have our cars been rated at 14.1? No offense but what your saying is COMPLETELY WRONG. Try 14.7. I have yet to see someone with an SS/SC run lower than a 14.7. I don't want to get into the middle of this but the SRT-4 SHOULD win in a drag race. There are instances where the driver can be really bad. SS rated at 14.1....I WISH

 

Goto the track sometimes, there are SRT-4 drivers who do 15's.. there are bad drivers and he might of been one

 

Oh i know, SOmeone I know (I don't know him personally but im friends with his friend) has an Evolution, he went to the track a couple days ago and ran a 16.0 flat!!!! I asked the guys friend if he stalled out and he said no, but I don't know, maybe he did....

Think about that, a mid 13 second car running 16's....anything is possible

 

i guess since youve never seen it then there is no way in hell that it can ever happen?

 

Someone on here posted slips from a 14.5 CSS Run...

-Rich

 

One thing you have to remember about all of these 14.7, 14.8, 14.9 runs is that they are done during the HEAT of summer. Wait until it cools down a bit. My car ran its best stock times in late October and November (Phoenix, Az).

Come December, I'll bet that most of those running high 14's now will have run low 14's.

 

I know weather effects the cars performance but would it really effect if that much from a 14.7 to a 14.1? I'm saying on a stock cobalt ss/sc.

 

Yes it will. The first summer I had my car I ran a 14.4 best (during the day). By November (at Night) I'd usually run low 13.9's and 13.8's and ran a best of 13.76. Some of that was learning how to launch and drive the car, but alot of it had to do with the weather.

I'd say it was probably 3 or 4 tenths due to the weather. The difference between running in 110+ degree weather vs 70- degree weather.

I imagine the same thing will happen with the SS/SC. The car will get 3 or 4 tenths due to the weather and another 3 or 4 tenths from drivers learning how to launch the car better at the strip. I would not be surprised to see a stock SS/SC rip off a 14.1 1/4 mile on a cool day with the driver launching to a 2.0 60'

 

Damn, I didn't think it would make that much of a difference. Now that gives me new hope for what the car can do with the staged upgrades GM is supposedly coming out with

 

yeah on a 94 degree day my cobalt ran a 17.1 at best and im really hoping on a coolr day it would get mid to low 16's

 

So all of the magazine numbers for the Cobalt SS are 100% correct but the numbers for SRT-4's are wrong?

Even though 2 board members have beat the magazine numbers allready. And with 2.2? plus 60ft times. In the hands of a experienced driver knocking off .3-.5 will be easy.

And I don't give a damn what you say Mcdipshit all SRT-4's don't run 13's and it is proven every Friday night at the Nebraska Motorplex.

 

how compitent are the drivers? codyss, ive warned you before enough bashin. and by the way what board member here has beaten a 14.4 1/4? i would love to see that? did i miss a thread or something, but i could swear the fastest thus far is a 15.1, not bashin the ss s/c i can tell its a pain to launch just by the test drive. and i did not read anywhere that mchat saying the the ss s/c couldnt hit a 14.4 infact i could swear he stated that he wouldn't be surprised if it was able to run a 14.1, meaning he thinks its fully capable of it, so i think he's supporting the fact that the ss s/c is fully capable of beating that 14.4 magazine posted time. put erica nocita behind the wheel of the ss s/c and lets see her beat that 14.4, every car is fully capable of beatin a magazine time. every car is, all depends on driver experience, track condition and weather condition.

n e wayd codyss leave it alone, how hard is it to come to realization that stock for stock a god damn srt-4 (no offense on the god damn part) is faster than a god damn ss s/c (no offense once again) with both equal drivers. geez the car has and is proven to put down 10-15+more whp, stock, and 50+wtq stock. and the car weigh about the damn same. if you are two idiotic and to ignoriant to recognize that those numbers dont equal to defeat, then you are something else.

 

I've gotten a 14.594 on my SS.....dont care if you believe me or not because my friends were there and saw it...

 

I belive you. That's an impressive time, however, I don't think, in stock form, the Cobalt SS/SC will pull 14.1 but if the weather is cold enough.....who knows

 

I'm not saying i dont believe you, i do believe you, but w/ 2 good drivers the srt-4 will beat the cobalt ss s/c both being in stock form. and honestly i do think the cobalt ss s/c is capable of a verry low 14, depends on driver and weather conditions and track conditions.

 

stop swigging the nyquil man. if you read the post, you would hear me say that the srt numbers were wrong, as well as the cobalt. they didnt match up in either article they printed. and the ONLY excuse they could come up with when they got called on it, was that they used mathematical equations and all this over scientific bullshit to come up with the 'average' times for the cars. if i had a scanner, id scan the article for you. but that would take a lot of effort on my part, which i could use elsewhere, like sleeping, which is way better then talking to you, or posting to your blantant close minded views of every car on the road besides your cobalt ss.

 

SlowdySS has been walked one two many times by a "neon".