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Old 01-17-2007, 01:01 AM
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cobalt vs. mustang/sti

my little brother bought a mustang gt 06. He got a sct tune and cold air intake. if we get a chance we'll race. The sti(stock), i might get a chance to race sunday (i just wanna know if i can beat him from 40). my mods are: airbox mod, 60#, 2.8 pulley, custom tune. what do you think ?
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do you have a header downpipe or exhaust bc if you dont i think that mustang is gonna walk you depending on how good that tune is and if he can drive. If the tune is good for say 10 to 15 horsepower whch im sure it is and you dont have any exhaust mods its gonna be a long day
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Id say it should be close with the STI, you may pull him in the top end.

Dunno much about the sct tune, but the new GTs are quick.
dig you will lose, roll im not sure.

race em and let us know
talking about it just gets everyone pissy about whos magazine numbers are the best.
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actually i drove his mustang already and its wicked quick. I taught my brother how to drive a stick he's nineteen im 29. when i drive it, it scares the crap out of him.

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do you have a header downpipe or exhaust bc if you dont i think that mustang is gonna walk you depending on how good that tune is and if he can drive. If the tune is good for say 10 to 15 horsepower whch im sure it is and you dont have any exhaust mods its gonna be a long day
no exhaust mods.

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Old 01-17-2007, 01:49 AM
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TELL US. Let us know how it goes...you will probably beat your bro if he is scared of his own car..the sti you will probably be close but lose. who knows though.
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What year STi???
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you will loose to the mustang.. dont care if its a roll or dig
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I dunno, with your mods, I think you will be able to hold your own against both of them from a roll. I held dead even with an STi w/ turboback exhaust with my current mods. But as someone already said, you definitely need some exhaust work with your mods to really spank both of them.

From a dig, both of them will beat you like a drunken redneck husband. Hell, I'd like to see the stang and the STi race from a dig.
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Race the sti from an 80 roll, you'll smoke him.
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The new GT's arent that awful quick. I beat an 05 Auto by 2-3 lengths from a 30 roll in my 02 VW GTI....my GTI was modded but only had 232 whp....a lot of SS's are putting more than that down with the mods he has.
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Originally Posted by dedecv3
The new GT's arent that awful quick. I beat an 05 Auto by 2-3 lengths from a 30 roll in my 02 VW GTI....my GTI was modded but only had 232 whp....a lot of SS's are putting more than that down with the mods he has.


OP: What year STI????
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One of my best friends has a new GT...we go from a roll and the time and we're even. (We're both stock)
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Originally Posted by Acidangel_5.0
you will loose to the mustang.. dont care if its a roll or dig
your an idiot, even with a mildly good tune hes got over 255 260 to the wheels, in a 2900 lb car, compared to like 310 whp in a 4000lb car from a roll its a cake walk.
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Originally Posted by mattyfinch
your an idiot, even with a mildly good tune hes got over 255 260 to the wheels, in a 2900 lb car, compared to like 310 whp in a 4000lb car from a roll its a cake walk.
You do not know what you are talking about.



4000lbs. hahahhahahaha
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You do not know what you are talking about.
I don't know what half of you are talking about?

The 06 mustang GT has a 5.3 0-60 and a 13.9 quartermile time...at least on the original tests. It also weighs 3700lbs and has 300 MOTOR horsepower.

Pretty sure that a 2.8 pulley SS/SC should have no issues pulling on one from a roll.

But like everyone else said...tape it (not like half the guys on here will believe it if you win)..your going to get a lot of..he wasn't racing...can't drive...let you win..blah blah blah.

My advice...never be scared of a car with maybe 50 more horse that out weighs you by 800lbs.

SOOOOO....

your an idiot, even with a mildly good tune hes got over 255 260 to the wheels, in a 2900 lb car, compared to like 310 whp in a 4000lb car from a roll its a cake walk.
Numbers aren't exact but from a roll...I agree with the "cake walk portion"

What I find interesting is people are like 2.8 pulley...big deal...especially since chevy rated the Stage 2 kit to take .7 second off your quartermile time. I can't wait to hit the track this spring...I would be willing to bet I can get a 13.6 - 13.8 with a stage 2. (I will tape it though )
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Originally Posted by FNFAST
I don't know what half of you are talking about?

The 06 mustang GT has a 5.3 0-60 and a 13.9 quartermile time...at least on the original tests. It also weighs 3700lbs and has 300 MOTOR horsepower.

Pretty sure that a 2.8 pulley SS/SC should have no issues pulling on one from a roll.

But like everyone else said...tape it (not like half the guys on here will believe it if you win)..your going to get a lot of..he wasn't racing...can't drive...let you win..blah blah blah.

My advice...never be scared of a car with maybe 50 more horse that out weighs you by 800lbs.

SOOOOO....



Numbers aren't exact but from a roll...I agree with the "cake walk portion"

What I find interesting is people are like 2.8 pulley...big deal...especially since chevy rated the Stage 2 kit to take .7 second off your quartermile time. I can't wait to hit the track this spring...I would be willing to bet I can get a 13.6 - 13.8 with a stage 2. (I will tape it though )
The Mustang has mods too and are capable of mid 13s stock.
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The Mustang has mods too and are capable of mid 13s stock.
Capable and a scared 19 year old driving are two different things my friend...modded or not.
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Originally Posted by STIwannabe
Race the sti from an 80 roll, you'll smoke him.

who in the f**k races from an 80 roll i cant believe you just said that
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I cant believe you took me seriously.
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you will beat the sti but probably not the stang

lol @ STIwannabe's 80mph roll

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If your tune is good you'll beat the gt...put a little 101 in just in case.
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Originally Posted by mattyfinch
your an idiot, even with a mildly good tune hes got over 255 260 to the wheels, in a 2900 lb car, compared to like 310 whp in a 4000lb car from a roll its a cake walk.
right and probably 220wtq vs 320wtq. torque wins races, horsepower sells cars my friend. a tune from one of the top companies (brenspeed, evo, bamachips) and one of the better cai's on the s197 gt's is good for close to 30whp and near that in torque. he should take you from a roll or a dig. rapage from a dig, but from a roll it should be fairly close.

Originally Posted by FNFAST
I don't know what half of you are talking about?

The 06 mustang GT has a 5.3 0-60 and a 13.9 quartermile time...at least on the original tests. It also weighs 3700lbs and has 300 MOTOR horsepower.

Pretty sure that a 2.8 pulley SS/SC should have no issues pulling on one from a roll.

But like everyone else said...tape it (not like half the guys on here will believe it if you win)..your going to get a lot of..he wasn't racing...can't drive...let you win..blah blah blah.

My advice...never be scared of a car with maybe 50 more horse that out weighs you by 800lbs.

SOOOOO....


Numbers aren't exact but from a roll...I agree with the "cake walk portion"

What I find interesting is people are like 2.8 pulley...big deal...especially since chevy rated the Stage 2 kit to take .7 second off your quartermile time. I can't wait to hit the track this spring...I would be willing to bet I can get a 13.6 - 13.8 with a stage 2. (I will tape it though )
13.9 in a stock automatic wich has a torque limiter in first.... you guys are way too hung up on horsepower numbers. the 4.6 makes WAAAAAY more torque and a good deal more horsepower stock, even with the 2.8 and the other mods on the cobalt. now if the gt was stock, you would most likely be right with him from a dig, but from a roll you would probably be able to take him by a bit. the gt weighs just over 3500 btw. none of you seem to know what you are talking about when it comes to this motor, so stop talking until you do. I come from both worlds here. cai+tune on new gt = at LEAST 20rwhp. most will see close to 30, and about the same increase in torque, and huge gains in the lower rpm's. you may be able to beat him because from your discription he sounds like a bad driver, but his car IS at least a little bit faster, and with all things equal he should win. race him before he gets gears/exhaust cause he'll be knockin on the door of 12's at that point, maybe even hitting em. just race him and find out, you might get him.

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Old 01-19-2007, 12:08 AM
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No he is not a bad driver but he is not good and me either. I guess he's just scared cuz he's not in control. Going back to topic, from the butt dyno i dont feel im gonna get left out from dig or roll. It was fun to drive. The car twists everytime i shift even with traction control on. car's low end came alive after the SCT tune.
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Originally Posted by beamSS
No he is not a bad driver but he is not good and me either. I guess he's just scared cuz he's not in control. Going back to topic, from the butt dyno i dont feel im gonna get left out from dig or roll. It was fun to drive. The car twists everytime i shift even with traction control on. car's low end came alive after the SCT tune.

from a dig he WILL leave you behind, at least in first and second for sure if he can drive better than a monkey with no right arm. now the rest is up to you and him as drivers because really, although his car *SHOULD* be faster, when it comes to street racing with cars that are within 3 or 4 tenths of eachother on the track, the driver will determine the race. go to a high top speed (do it somewhere safe away from traffic) because if you just go to like 70ish, he will make you his bitch, the low end torque if that thing will just own you. good luck man, just try it and if you win great job, if you don't who cares. just don't do it on busy streets!
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