CSS 2.4 vs new Civic Si
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I'll back the stability at the high speed part. I've topped out the LSJ while stock. Never had an issue with stability. As for the frame part, they are all the same. Doesn't matter LS, LT, LTZ, SS/NA, SS/SC, SS/TC, IRL, HHR. Also, tranny is not Swiss, it is Swedish. High rise spoiler may create downforce, but it also creates a lot of drag. Ask me how I know. I think I'm the only one with actual real world data to back it up, that doesn't work for a racing team or GM. And screw Brembo brakes. All they did was give another piston to the front calipers and larger rotors. They've aready had a recall. Convert to slotted/drilled brakes. I did. Was one of the best mods I did.
1. Reliability says what? I used to work for a Honda dealership service department. Go look into which engine is leaking oil. Also, show me who's on top in the Grand Am series.
2. That's because most people think that supercharging a 4 cylinder is stupid due to parasitic loss. Tuners tend to go towards turbo applications. Probably because turbochargers are usually cheaper than superchargers.
3. .90 lateral g is really crappy for any car from the factory. Sure does beat cars like K series Honda's and Ford Mustang GT's. Also, same format does not mean same parts. Have you heard of suspension codes like FE1, FE3, and FE5?
4. Take your own advice. I win. You're a tool.
1. Reliability says what? I used to work for a Honda dealership service department. Go look into which engine is leaking oil. Also, show me who's on top in the Grand Am series.
2. That's because most people think that supercharging a 4 cylinder is stupid due to parasitic loss. Tuners tend to go towards turbo applications. Probably because turbochargers are usually cheaper than superchargers.
3. .90 lateral g is really crappy for any car from the factory. Sure does beat cars like K series Honda's and Ford Mustang GT's. Also, same format does not mean same parts. Have you heard of suspension codes like FE1, FE3, and FE5?
4. Take your own advice. I win. You're a tool.
im sorry to burst your bubble but we were speaking about the lsj. that means 2005-2007 cobalt ss, dont pull **** from the lnf. .9 lat g is from the turbo cobalt.
take my advice again and read the whole page before post next time
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Yeah, I know plenty about the LSJ versus the other Cobalts. Unlike you, I have real world experience in this department. I was referring to the LSJ lateral g. I can assume where you are getting your numbers from for the LNF, but you need to realize that is only one source of info. I have more sources to refer to and can tell you that these sources range from 0.88 - 0.90 for the LSJ and 0.90 - 0.92 for the LNF. Don't just read one thing and accept it as truth. Do your research before you open your mouth.
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Do you realize what you said? 171 + 25 = 196. 196 versus 205 is not much, especially when you consider the torque, and gearing differences (5 speed versus 6). Besides, we all know GM underrated the Cobalts. Plus, vtec does not kick in until a few hundred rpm's before the Si hits the rev limiter, whereas the LE% has VVT that optimizes the valve timing across the entire rpm range. I think it's possible. Engine speed does not equate wheel speed. My 07 SS/NA is bone stock powertrain wise (and is a manual tranny) and ran just slightly slower than a newer Si sedan with exhaust intake. Only difference was the driver. This is based in track times the same night, so temp, humidity, etc is not a factor. My wife was driving the SS/NA that night at the track. She knows how to cut a good tree and be consistent. I was racing my 06 SS/SC.
fuel cutoff is 148 stock. can be removed with a tune.
fuel cutoff is 148 stock. can be removed with a tune.
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