Even with the 6.0 GTO???
01-25-2007, 01:40 PM
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01-25-2007, 01:49 PM
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01-25-2007, 01:49 PM
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mines in the shop right now too. It sucks, someone tried to use a screwdriver and hammer to open the door. idiots.
01-25-2007, 01:58 PM
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I read enough posts on ls2gto.com to keep me from trying the B&M, although there is a fix for that B&M flaw that I've seen posted several times.
01-25-2007, 02:02 PM
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Yea we did that....lol no hope for us. We impacted the ny-locks in so hopefully it'll hold this time. I was so frustrated I was about to put the stock one back in..but apparantly some parts got lost or else I was going to buy the Lou's short stick. If it acts up again I'm just going to have to get the GMM
01-25-2007, 02:04 PM
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I was driving home when a pair of deer decided to jump into the road out of nowhere and stop what seemed like 10 feet in front of me. I hit and killed not one, but two of them. New hood, bumper, both fenders, and radiator support on the way.
Yea we did that....lol no hope for us. We impacted the ny-locks in so hopefully it'll hold this time. I was so frustrated I was about to put the stock one back in..but apparantly some parts got lost or else I was going to buy the Lou's short stick. If it acts up again I'm just going to have to get the GMM
I'm actually using the GMM Ripshift and Lou's Short Stick for the stock knob. I loved the GMM before installing Lou's Short Stick, but the feel is absolutely perfect after it.
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01-25-2007, 02:08 PM
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I was driving home when a pair of deer decided to jump into the road out of nowhere and stop what seemed like 10 feet in front of me. I hit and killed not one, but two of them. New hood, bumper, both fenders, and radiator support on the way.
I'm actually using the GMM Ripshift and Lou's Short Stick for the stock knob. I loved the GMM before installing Lou's Short Stick, but the feel is absolutely perfect after it.
I'm actually using the GMM Ripshift and Lou's Short Stick for the stock knob. I loved the GMM before installing Lou's Short Stick, but the feel is absolutely perfect after it.
01-25-2007, 02:17 PM
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I don't know how B&M dropped the ball on that one, I've always heard great things about their products for other cars.
01-25-2007, 02:20 PM
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They are a great company but like you said, I don't know what happened. I even bought the "new upghraded" version since they supposedly fixed all the problems people were having, but apparantly not.
01-25-2007, 02:31 PM
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01-25-2007, 02:41 PM
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Admittedly, I don't actually know what's required, and I am considerably more familiar with the GTO side of this discussion. I have to defer to the locals for knowledge of what it takes for them to run with our cars, and I assumed Stage 2 or better put an SS/SC in our ballpark.
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01-26-2007, 11:27 AM
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That would be from a roll, the GT will still take a Stage 2 in the 1/4. On a perfect day and with a excellent driver a Stage 2 SS/SC might see 13.6 if there lucky.
From a roll could always put around 1.5 cars on a stock S197 GT. In my GTO from a roll GT's are usually 5-6 cars back by 100mph and the distance just keeps getting bigger with every mph.
01-26-2007, 11:31 AM
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01-26-2007, 11:42 AM
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That would be from a roll, the GT will still take a Stage 2 in the 1/4. On a perfect day and with a excellent driver a Stage 2 SS/SC might see 13.6 if there lucky.
From a roll could always put around 1.5 cars on a stock S197 GT. In my GTO from a roll GT's are usually 5-6 cars back by 100mph and the distance just keeps getting bigger with every mph.
From a roll could always put around 1.5 cars on a stock S197 GT. In my GTO from a roll GT's are usually 5-6 cars back by 100mph and the distance just keeps getting bigger with every mph.
01-26-2007, 12:00 PM
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i raced 1 at the track when i was stock. i ran a 14.797 @98 he ran a 13.724 @ 102. so i totally agree with you here
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That would be from a roll, the GT will still take a Stage 2 in the 1/4. On a perfect day and with a excellent driver a Stage 2 SS/SC might see 13.6 if there lucky.
From a roll could always put around 1.5 cars on a stock S197 GT. In my GTO from a roll GT's are usually 5-6 cars back by 100mph and the distance just keeps getting bigger with every mph.
From a roll could always put around 1.5 cars on a stock S197 GT. In my GTO from a roll GT's are usually 5-6 cars back by 100mph and the distance just keeps getting bigger with every mph.
I'm not the most accurate judge of car lengths once it gets past 2, but that sounds in line with the results I've had against '05+ GT's.
Ouch. That's the first incident of B&M with upgraded bolts breaking that I have heard of. Granted, I don't pay as much attention to that issue as I used to.
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01-26-2007, 06:31 PM
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From a roll is pretty much the only chance the SS/SC Stage 2 has. From a dig it gets mathmatically complicated. At the 1/4 each car seperatly will run close times but with much different trap speeds. The GT is geared for the first 1/8 and the Cobalt shines the last 1/8th. Basically they can run the close to the same times but be seperated by a few cars in the 1/4. I would say that the GT is a high 13 second car so is a SS/SC Stage 2 but it is much easier to get high 13's out of the GT.
01-27-2007, 02:21 AM
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From a roll is pretty much the only chance the SS/SC Stage 2 has. From a dig it gets mathmatically complicated. At the 1/4 each car seperatly will run close times but with much different trap speeds. The GT is geared for the first 1/8 and the Cobalt shines the last 1/8th. Basically they can run the close to the same times but be seperated by a few cars in the 1/4. I would say that the GT is a high 13 second car so is a SS/SC Stage 2 but it is much easier to get high 13's out of the GT.
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From a roll is pretty much the only chance the SS/SC Stage 2 has. From a dig it gets mathmatically complicated. At the 1/4 each car seperatly will run close times but with much different trap speeds. The GT is geared for the first 1/8 and the Cobalt shines the last 1/8th. Basically they can run the close to the same times but be seperated by a few cars in the 1/4. I would say that the GT is a high 13 second car so is a SS/SC Stage 2 but it is much easier to get high 13's out of the GT.
