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Old 11-20-2008, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by roadrage06
so then, yeah, same thing as me. I'll tell you what will give you an advantage:

7000rpm redline. when he's shifting, you're still going. may give you enough of an edge to make it a closer race.
this is true ^^^^ but 3rd is too hard to pull on the tc.... it is incredibly rough to do without methanol. It pisses me off that the tc is that strong in 3rd.

Feel free to chime in fellow-tcers that have raced stage 2+s
Old 11-20-2008, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PhantomSS
this is true ^^^^ but 3rd is too hard to pull on the tc.... it is incredibly rough to do without methanol
well, I can't speak from experience...so i don't know for sure. But having that extra 5-hundred rpm's while he's in second might help. Like I said. I do know it was door to door with me and the one I raced. And I wasn't even in a good part of my powerband. And if that wasn't bad enough, I had just started to build up those rpm's again when we hit traffic...the race only lasted 60 yards. I'm pretty sure I could have pulled at least a little.
Old 11-20-2008, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by roadrage06
well, I can't speak from experience...so i don't know for sure. But having that extra 5-hundred rpm's while he's in second might help. Like I said. I do know it was door to door with me and the one I raced. And I wasn't even in a good part of my powerband. And if that wasn't bad enough, I had just started to build up those rpm's again when we hit traffic...the race only lasted 60 yards. I'm pretty sure I could have pulled at least a little.
wasnt there but the sc and the tc have their advantages and disadvantages in different parts of the race.

sc will win for instance from a 40-80 roll but the TCs gain ALOT of power by the middle of 3rd. Yes the shifting at 7k is a godsend vs the tc.

Here is a good idea of what it takes to run a TC....now i was UNTUNED on methanol so my 2nd gear was not nearly as strong due to it drowning my injectors that night and running 10s AFR however you can see his shifts vs mine and when he took 5th at the end and tried to pull i caught up by the end of 4th. BTW Passenger ftl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=655h66NTnpM

I had a 200 lbs passenger 1/3 gas, he was on empty and no passenger.

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I got my buddies 09 T/C Sedan by a car..but it's a sedan too.
Old 11-20-2008, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 06superchargedbalt
I got my buddies 09 T/C Sedan by a car..but it's a sedan too.
what speed to what speed? they arent that much different. Also driver-mod makes a big difference. Me and my friend can drive.
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i think youll pwn
Old 11-20-2008, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 06SS ALL DAY
i think youll pwn
think it was establish a gm stage 2 wont take a tc. Hell every video ive seen and every tc race ive witnessed destroyed s2s by the end of 3rd.

Anyway not saying an s2 cant beat a tc. Since ive beaten a 6.0 GTO before. That doesnt mean i beat the car....just the driver. Hopefully you will luck out and your driver mod > his.
Old 11-20-2008, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PhantomSS
wasnt there but the sc and the tc have their advantages and disadvantages in different parts of the race.

sc will win for instance from a 40-80 roll but the TCs gain ALOT of power by the middle of 3rd. Yes the shifting at 7k is a godsend vs the tc.

Here is a good idea of what it takes to run a TC....now i was UNTUNED on methanol so my 2nd gear was not nearly as strong due to it drowning my injectors that night and running 10s AFR however you can see his shifts vs mine and when he took 5th at the end and tried to pull i caught up by the end of 4th. BTW Passenger ftl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=655h66NTnpM

I had a 200 lbs passenger 1/3 gas, he was on empty and no passenger.

Red = Turbo cobalt
Mine Black = SS/SC
that's some very compelling evidence...lol.

Yeah, like I said, I can't speak from experience. I really wish that whole race of mine could have been played out. And i haven't run into the kid since!!! go figure.

If we had gone longer he probably would have pulled on me then. Good thing it didn't last longer...hahaha
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i dont care who wins and i will have it on vid in case i win
Old 11-20-2008, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bl4des
i dont care who wins and i will have it on vid in case i win
post the vid even if you lose!

Originally Posted by roadrage06
that's some very compelling evidence...lol.

Yeah, like I said, I can't speak from experience. I really wish that whole race of mine could have been played out. And i haven't run into the kid since!!! go figure.

If we had gone longer he probably would have pulled on me then. Good thing it didn't last longer...hahaha
without a passenger i get him by like 4 cars... it really makes a big difference.

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Old 11-20-2008, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PhantomSS
what speed to what speed? they arent that much different. Also driver-mod makes a big difference. Me and my friend can drive.
Well, from a dig and roll...40 roll to around 110. He used to have stage 2 + S/C..So I think it's not anything new to him, except the 6500 RPM redline. The dig race was a fluke...He had the Traction control on at the strip and bogged real bad, so it really wasn't a race.
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i will post the vid no matter who wins
Old 11-20-2008, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bl4des
i will post the vid no matter who wins
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thx man. hell i post my losses even if i can win.
Old 11-20-2008, 10:25 PM
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there might not be a race now he wants to get used to the car and i am only going to be by him for a week
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ur friend is such a *****
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i say dont race....do him a favor and tell him to break in his car before racing... that is, if it is brand new..... if its used.... drive well, and i say you have him by a bumper or two
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it is used it has 5k miles on it
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f it then, call him a ***** lol
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he might race this is his first stick car he had a jeep that was stick before this tho
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close race with your driver mod vs his then
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so define "SOON" when is this race taking place?
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just PIT manuever if he pulls ahead!
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Originally Posted by Bl4des
he might race this is his first stick car he had a jeep that was stick before this tho
I smell some fail on his part if you do happen to race him. Brand new to a manually tranny AND brand new car means he needs time to actually learn what to do. I wouldn't force him to race, it'd be a shame if something went wrong due to inexperienced driver error. Not worth the risk, don't put your friend in that position (my opinion).

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just PIT manuever if he pulls ahead!
LOL, that's horrible, I love it.

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Old 11-21-2008, 12:25 PM
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his last truck was manual but this is his first manual CAR and if we do race it will be within a week
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We are going to be racing this Wednesday but it is going to be at night so the vid wont be that good


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