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Old 06-09-2009, 11:15 AM
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I raced a 05 GT with a saleen supercharger on it. The guy said it put down about 450bhp on the dyno. That's about 370 whp give or take a few. We both ran 12.7 at the track. He was on street tires I think.
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wait and good luck make sure you dont use launch controll or ur deff done
Old 06-09-2009, 11:24 AM
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It just depends on what kind of driver he is. They can run high 12's to low 12's with just a S/C and gears.
Old 06-09-2009, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by scott allen
if itsa 04 gt it is a 2v moter.
yeah but the OP could be wrong an it could be a cobra instead of a 04 gt thats SC yeah know
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Take him through some twisties and then see what happens...
Old 06-09-2009, 01:07 PM
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From a dig Hes gonna have you for sure.
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Originally Posted by AnthonyCM
yeah but the OP could be wrong an it could be a cobra instead of a 04 gt thats SC yeah know
Sounds like he's pretty certain, though, since he specified the brand of Supercharger and such.


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Take him through some twisties and then see what happens...
Did I get redirected to a Honda forum somehow?
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i think the mustang would win top end forsure
Old 06-09-2009, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rm.lydon08
Take him through some twisties and then see what happens...
: Thats just about your only chance unless they really suck as a driver, which could be the case.

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Did I get redirected to a Honda forum somehow?
For most Hondas that will continue to be their argument, But its a good one.
Old 06-09-2009, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Blainestang
Sounds like he's pretty certain, though, since he specified the brand of Supercharger and such.




Did I get redirected to a Honda forum somehow?
how the hell would that comment lead you to your statement....
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Originally Posted by burzumaske20
Do you even realize that a supercharged mustang gt is totally different from your dads 03 mustang that just has intake exhaust and tune?I doubt you will dust a supercharged mustang gt.
never said i would dust him just thought that 03-04 mustangs are not fast stock! even with a tune intake and exhaust i beat one! that was my point, my question was what will the supercharger do for it

Originally Posted by 2MCHBoost
Stock Terminator - 12.8@112
2.8" and a Tune Terminatr - 12.0@120+
its a regular mustang GT with an added vortech supercharger. not a terminator.

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Originally Posted by Racerx78
For most Hondas that will continue to be their argument, But its a good one.
No, it's not a good argument... it's a typical fanboy Red Herring.

Instead of discussing the ACTUAL TOPIC (usually because they are losing the argument or they would have to admit their car/brand isn't going to win), they change the topic to something unrelated.

For instance, many times when American cars come up on Import forums and the discussion involves drag racing, you can virtually guarantee the following replies:

- Yeah, but the [American car] will break down before the end of the race!
- How could anyone even drive a car with an interior that crappy?!?!
- Pssshh... that doesn't even come CLOSE to 100hp/L N/A. What a turd!

and of course...

- Take it to the twisties and see what happens!


Not only do those arguments have NOTHING to do with the actual topic, but fairly often, they're based on ignorant assumptions from other fanboys and NOT facts.

If you want to talk about Reliability, Interiors, Engine Tech, Handling, etc... there are other forums for that. This forum (in general) and this topic are about drag racing.
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Originally Posted by PimpLay2
i think the mustang would win top end forsure
thats where i handed my dad his ass was topend it was like the mustang just had nothing left, i guess thats where the gears will help out!
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Originally Posted by 06_SIC_SS
i think u still got him

I SINCERELY hope this is sarcasm.....
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Originally Posted by purplehaze03
thats where i handed my dad his ass was topend it was like the mustang just had nothing left, i guess thats where the gears will help out!
Well, the supercharger doesn't hurt, either
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Originally Posted by AnthonyCM
ok so 04 GT with vortech?correct me if i'm wrong but i'm assuming he droped the vortech on the 4.6 2v motor?....that car is a straight dig race car i'm assuming so do a roll race an dig race and u stand a chance at the roll race seeing as how i would guess he's slower than a Terminator and the gears will hurt him higher up but IDK i'm not that knowledgable on Stangs

u need to find out if its the 2v motor or the 4v
people really dont have a clue on here.....

allow me to inform the LNF owners:

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/product.php?p=133

400 hp, 400 tq. Hes not touching that mustang.

even on the std vortech, 360/370. No way in hell. Even with a tune. That GT will probly be faster than a termi.

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Old 06-09-2009, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by purplehaze03
never said i would dust him just thought that 03-04 mustangs are not fast stock! even with a tune intake and exhaust i beat one! that was my point, my question was what will the supercharger do for it



its a regular mustang GT with an added vortech supercharger. not a terminator.
I know. Someone had asked for terminator times tho
Old 06-09-2009, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
[B]even on the std vortech, 360/370. No way in hell. Even with a tune. That GT will probly be faster than a termi.
If my friend's '03 Cobra and my '01 GT (w/ Vortech) are any indication, they're pretty similar.

Cobra = 371whp, 12.9@113
'01 GT = 375whp, 12.9@110

The Cobra has a little better gearing, broader powerband, and had better weather. The GT has a couple hundred lb weight advantage. Both could stand for better tires/traction and go a few tenths faster.

Pretty similar, overall.
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Originally Posted by Blainestang
If my friend's '03 Cobra and my '01 GT (w/ Vortech) are any indication, they're pretty similar.

Cobra = 371whp, 12.9@113
'01 GT = 375whp, 12.9@110

The Cobra has a little better gearing, broader powerband, and had better weather. The GT has a couple hundred lb weight advantage. Both could stand for better tires/traction and go a few tenths faster.

Pretty similar, overall.
Yea, either way the cobalt is screwed. If hes running the HO votech kit hell have even more whp/wtq.
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
Yea, either way the cobalt is screwed. If hes running the HO votech kit hell have even more whp/wtq.
Well ****!
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Originally Posted by purplehaze03
Well ****!
you would need full bolt ons and a tune to even be close. Even then Im pretty sure you'd still lose. It would be closer at least then.
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From a dig, your going to get your ass handed, now if its to like 160mph then you might have a chance to reel him in good, if your a good driver. GL
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well a supercharged mustang,I would say he has about an extra 200 to 250hp easily.Luckily he doesn't have a rebuilt motor,then it would be pointless to even race him.Also it doesn't really make a major difference on a tuned intake and exhaust on that mustang you raced.A supercharge mustang gt is what you have to worry about.
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i say race him...who cares if u lose
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Originally Posted by 40rty
From a dig, your going to get your ass handed, now if its to like 160mph then you might have a chance to reel him in good, if your a good driver. GL
This post doesn't just ooze with sarcasm, 160mph . "So if your Cobalt was jet powered and your tires kept their form you'd clearly have him by 2 car lengths!"

To the OP, you know what, if you're going to the track run him for the hell of it, who cares if you lose. Racing isn't always all about winning, it's for the sheer enjoyment of getting to gauge your car and skills against other drivers (as well as speed like a demon without fear of severe fines) and see what you end up with. As long as you haven't been **** talking (or if you have ensure your ego can handle the hit) go give it a try . As others have said unless he blows a gear, spins like mad or the car severly lets go, you don't stand much of a chance at all


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