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11-30-2006, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by codyss
Actually chevypowered you should ditch your LPE CAI and go back to the stock box. A stock 05-06 GTO with a CAI will actually see about a 20HP loss without good tune to bring the MAF readings back to earth. Given you hve the Diablosport tune I doubt even that can change enough to see full gain from a CAI.
I am sure you are on the GTO forums aren't you, if so just search for this issue. Some people have seen a loss of 20-25whp when adding a CAI no matter who makes it. The results get even worse when people remove the screen.
I am sure you are on the GTO forums aren't you, if so just search for this issue. Some people have seen a loss of 20-25whp when adding a CAI no matter who makes it. The results get even worse when people remove the screen.
11-30-2006, 02:51 PM
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Chev...go to madz28.com and let ION know that Jason with the 2000 SS sent you...He will hook you up with a tune for whatever you are running and you will DEFINETLY notice a difference (you will come back to thank me)and he will continue to tune the car for you anytime you make a mod/change.
and for all the squabling going on..the LS1 GTO's are fast but I don't see them "eating a 2.8 cobalt" the 04 I drove was no faster than a stock Z-28 (we lined them up
)...the LS2 6.0 liter is a different monster...I raced one of those in my SS this summer from a 40 mph roll and I think by the time we got to 100 I had about 5 feet on him...he was stock...I had about 4 grand worth of bolt on's on my camaro. And I don't mean my rear bumper was past his front bumper five feet either...I mean my front bumper was about 5 feet in front of his front bumper...the bastard hahaha...cool guy though...we "highway talked" for about 2 minutes.
BUT...have fun paying out the nose for the parts thats why I am selling my 00 SS...cost WAY TOO MUCH for upkeep. I have put almost 7 grand into the car in a little over a year. 4 for mods and 3 for repairs. the motors are great...the rest of the car blows goats (no pun intended)
and for all the squabling going on..the LS1 GTO's are fast but I don't see them "eating a 2.8 cobalt" the 04 I drove was no faster than a stock Z-28 (we lined them up
)...the LS2 6.0 liter is a different monster...I raced one of those in my SS this summer from a 40 mph roll and I think by the time we got to 100 I had about 5 feet on him...he was stock...I had about 4 grand worth of bolt on's on my camaro. And I don't mean my rear bumper was past his front bumper five feet either...I mean my front bumper was about 5 feet in front of his front bumper...the bastard hahaha...cool guy though...we "highway talked" for about 2 minutes.BUT...have fun paying out the nose for the parts
thats why I am selling my 00 SS...cost WAY TOO MUCH for upkeep. I have put almost 7 grand into the car in a little over a year. 4 for mods and 3 for repairs. the motors are great...the rest of the car blows goats (no pun intended)
11-30-2006, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevypowered
HAHA, i never said i could beat a SS/SC thats spraying, but there could be a decent chance that i can. We'll see what else i can get on here before then, being a poor college student don't expect much.
The poor College student thing is killing my mod money too, I know how it feels.
12-01-2006, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt443
hmm....we dynoed 11 whp more with the K&N
Are you running the complete CAI or the aircharger kit that just replaces the airbox?
If you are running the full CAI and seen gains live it up. Keep in mind the car will show inital gains right after the install but in about 100 miles it will most likely show a loss.
12-01-2006, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by codyss
Are you running the complete CAI or the aircharger kit that just replaces the airbox?
If you are running the full CAI and seen gains live it up. Keep in mind the car will show inital gains right after the install but in about 100 miles it will most likely show a loss.
If you are running the full CAI and seen gains live it up. Keep in mind the car will show inital gains right after the install but in about 100 miles it will most likely show a loss.
CAI. We had it on the car for about 1200 miles before we dynoed it again...so I guess we'll just live it up....lol
12-03-2006, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by codyss
The new Mustang GT is just outdated powerwise or it might have been on my list of options. They haven't even matched 1998-2002 F-Body performance yet.
That's what I keep telling the Mustang faithful and then they just mumble something while kicking the dirt. That OHV V-8 that Ford went to when they ditched the 5.0 hasn't panned out as they had planned. Sure the GT500 can put out 500 HP, but it needs a blower to do so. I think the retro look of the Mustang won't last too long. Its kinda sad when you have to revert to styling of your past and try to push it out as something "all-new". I prefer the sleek subtle lines below...........
12-04-2006, 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by TXRLU
That's what I keep telling the Mustang faithful and then they just mumble something while kicking the dirt. That OHV V-8 that Ford went to when they ditched the 5.0 hasn't panned out as they had planned. Sure the GT500 can put out 500 HP, but it needs a blower to do so. I think the retro look of the Mustang won't last too long. Its kinda sad when you have to revert to styling of your past and try to push it out as something "all-new". I prefer the sleek subtle lines below...........
And its all a matter of opinion, as I wish the GTO would have been more of a retro looking car rather then being very Grand Am'ish.....
12-04-2006, 06:10 AM
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http://www.mustangblog.com/index.php...t500/#more-283
Need we say any more about Ford OHV engines.... ? All bolt ons and a 75 shot.
Need we say any more about Ford OHV engines.... ? All bolt ons and a 75 shot.
12-04-2006, 11:19 AM
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I am failing to see why this is SOOO Impressive!?!? It is a supercharged and sprayed car.
Chevy has cars in the 9's that are Naturally Aspirated. Don't get me wrong, I am all for forced induction, however...if you start ewwwing and awwwing over a car that is supercharged AND sprayed thats in the nines...big deal...there are a MILLION cars in the US that are superchared w/spray that are in the 9's?
Chevy built the ZL1 camaro (which is naturally aspirated I might add, which cuts a 9.5 quartermile time?).
Place a supercharger on the new Z06.
I just don't see the point in getting a hard-on over a car that is supercharged and sprayed thats in the nines...My SS camaro could hit nines with FI and Spray and it is 7 years old...big deal.
Chevy has cars in the 9's that are Naturally Aspirated. Don't get me wrong, I am all for forced induction, however...if you start ewwwing and awwwing over a car that is supercharged AND sprayed thats in the nines...big deal...there are a MILLION cars in the US that are superchared w/spray that are in the 9's?
Chevy built the ZL1 camaro (which is naturally aspirated I might add, which cuts a 9.5 quartermile time?).
Place a supercharger on the new Z06.
I just don't see the point in getting a hard-on over a car that is supercharged and sprayed thats in the nines...My SS camaro could hit nines with FI and Spray and it is 7 years old...big deal.
12-04-2006, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TXRLU
That's what I keep telling the Mustang faithful and then they just mumble something while kicking the dirt. That OHV V-8 that Ford went to when they ditched the 5.0 hasn't panned out as they had planned. Sure the GT500 can put out 500 HP, but it needs a blower to do so. I think the retro look of the Mustang won't last too long. It’s kinda sad when you have to revert to styling of your past and try to push it out as something "all-new". I prefer the sleek subtle lines below...........
Actually the modular motors are over-head cam; the 5.0L was the OHV pushrod motor.
The whole N/A vs. blown-from-the-factory argument is so funny. I mean it’s like someone saying the Cobalt SS/SC needs a supercharger to beat the new Civic Si.
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12-04-2006, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by FNFAST
Chevy built the ZL1 camaro (which is naturally aspirated I might add, which cuts a 9.5 quartermile time?).
12-04-2006, 12:11 PM
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Not quite 9's.... It ran high to mid 11's in the 1/4.....
Otherwise I can find it on my computer and email it to you? Whats your e-mail address?
The ZL1 built with input from John Moss ran a 9.55. Not an 11. Again please send me your email if you would like the video.
here is the video link:
http://video.ls1tech.com/video/A6F35...689C3614E9.htm
I also have the full story video at my house...sooooo...Like I said...9.55...not 11's.
12-04-2006, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by FNFAST
I have the video at home, I can mail it to you?
Otherwise I can find it on my computer and email it to you? Whats your e-mail address?
The ZL1 built with input from John Moss ran a 9.55. Not an 11. Again please send me your email if you would like the video.
Otherwise I can find it on my computer and email it to you? Whats your e-mail address?
The ZL1 built with input from John Moss ran a 9.55. Not an 11. Again please send me your email if you would like the video.
Wasn't trying to be a **** smacker.
EDIT: Yes, we were in fact talking about two different ZL1s......oops.
12-04-2006, 12:19 PM
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yeah check out the link bud. Different car hahaha
John Moss helped produce limited production 96 camaro SS ZL1...
thats the car I am refering to.
And yes I know people, that it has a 98 front facia..this was added, the car is a 96 though.
I just posted the vid rather than emailing it to you.
John Moss helped produce limited production 96 camaro SS ZL1...
thats the car I am refering to.
And yes I know people, that it has a 98 front facia..this was added, the car is a 96 though.
I just posted the vid rather than emailing it to you.
12-04-2006, 01:50 PM
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Who cares how a car gets it's power be it a Turbo or Supercharger, I leave nitrous out because I see it as a band-aid fix when it comes to power. A Supercharger or Turbo doesn't run out mid race or need to be refilled.
When it comes to Mustangs vs GM they are just plain out gunned. The Mustang has been dominated by the F-Body since 1998 and by a large margin. The 2003-2004 Cobra evened things up and the LS1 was no longer top dog. The fastest stock Cobra 1/4 was 12.69 and the fastest F-Body 1/4 was 12.89 which equals a drivers race on the street.
The new S197 GT is a joke and still hasn't caught a 1998-2002 F-Body. And for the 2007 GT500 all I have to say is what a joke. If I was a Ford junkie I wouls have demanded more than 2004 Cobra performance especially for $43,000.
People all over the net have been adding boost to them and even doing full S/C swaps and acting like 10's is gift from God. Am I the only one that remembers the 400,000 2003-2004 Cobras doing the same thing?
When it comes to Mustangs vs GM they are just plain out gunned. The Mustang has been dominated by the F-Body since 1998 and by a large margin. The 2003-2004 Cobra evened things up and the LS1 was no longer top dog. The fastest stock Cobra 1/4 was 12.69 and the fastest F-Body 1/4 was 12.89 which equals a drivers race on the street.
The new S197 GT is a joke and still hasn't caught a 1998-2002 F-Body. And for the 2007 GT500 all I have to say is
what a joke. If I was a Ford junkie I wouls have demanded more than 2004 Cobra performance especially for $43,000. People all over the net have been adding boost to them and even doing full S/C swaps and acting like 10's is gift from God. Am I the only one that remembers the 400,000 2003-2004 Cobras doing the same thing?
12-04-2006, 02:01 PM
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Most of you chevy fans out there saying, "well they need a supercharger to get X amount of horsepower"..."they cant be naturally aspirated and be fast..." etc etc... Well most of you guys have a supercharged car. remember, without your supercharger all you have is a little 2.0 rice burner. Now dont get me wrong, im on this site for a reason. I LOVE the cobalt and almost had one. I OWN a CHEVY and im all for them. Lets just try to have an open mind here. Whichever way you look at it, a 500 hp car is awesome. especially if it has the name "shelby" on it.
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Who cares how a car gets it's power be it a Turbo or Supercharger, I leave nitrous out because I see it as a band-aid fix when it comes to power. A Supercharger or Turbo doesn't run out mid race or need to be refilled.
When it comes to Mustangs vs GM they are just plain out gunned. The Mustang has been dominated by the F-Body since 1998 and by a large margin. The 2003-2004 Cobra evened things up and the LS1 was no longer top dog. The fastest stock Cobra 1/4 was 12.69 and the fastest F-Body 1/4 was 12.89 which equals a drivers race on the street.
The new S197 GT is a joke and still hasn't caught a 1998-2002 F-Body. And for the 2007 GT500 all I have to say is what a joke. If I was a Ford junkie I wouls have demanded more than 2004 Cobra performance especially for $43,000.
People all over the net have been adding boost to them and even doing full S/C swaps and acting like 10's is gift from God. Am I the only one that remembers the 400,000 2003-2004 Cobras doing the same thing?
When it comes to Mustangs vs GM they are just plain out gunned. The Mustang has been dominated by the F-Body since 1998 and by a large margin. The 2003-2004 Cobra evened things up and the LS1 was no longer top dog. The fastest stock Cobra 1/4 was 12.69 and the fastest F-Body 1/4 was 12.89 which equals a drivers race on the street.
The new S197 GT is a joke and still hasn't caught a 1998-2002 F-Body. And for the 2007 GT500 all I have to say is what a joke. If I was a Ford junkie I wouls have demanded more than 2004 Cobra performance especially for $43,000.
People all over the net have been adding boost to them and even doing full S/C swaps and acting like 10's is gift from God. Am I the only one that remembers the 400,000 2003-2004 Cobras doing the same thing?
Couldn't have said it better myself!
12-04-2006, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by codyss
Who cares how a car gets it's power be it a Turbo or Supercharger, I leave nitrous out because I see it as a band-aid fix when it comes to power. A Supercharger or Turbo doesn't run out mid race or need to be refilled.
When it comes to Mustangs vs GM they are just plain out gunned. The Mustang has been dominated by the F-Body since 1998 and by a large margin. The 2003-2004 Cobra evened things up and the LS1 was no longer top dog. The fastest stock Cobra 1/4 was 12.69 and the fastest F-Body 1/4 was 12.89 which equals a drivers race on the street.
The new S197 GT is a joke and still hasn't caught a 1998-2002 F-Body. And for the 2007 GT500 all I have to say is what a joke. If I was a Ford junkie I wouls have demanded more than 2004 Cobra performance especially for $43,000.
People all over the net have been adding boost to them and even doing full S/C swaps and acting like 10's is gift from God. Am I the only one that remembers the 400,000 2003-2004 Cobras doing the same thing?
When it comes to Mustangs vs GM they are just plain out gunned. The Mustang has been dominated by the F-Body since 1998 and by a large margin. The 2003-2004 Cobra evened things up and the LS1 was no longer top dog. The fastest stock Cobra 1/4 was 12.69 and the fastest F-Body 1/4 was 12.89 which equals a drivers race on the street.
The new S197 GT is a joke and still hasn't caught a 1998-2002 F-Body. And for the 2007 GT500 all I have to say is
what a joke. If I was a Ford junkie I wouls have demanded more than 2004 Cobra performance especially for $43,000. People all over the net have been adding boost to them and even doing full S/C swaps and acting like 10's is gift from God. Am I the only one that remembers the 400,000 2003-2004 Cobras doing the same thing?
12-04-2006, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by codyss
Who cares how a car gets it's power be it a Turbo or Supercharger, I leave nitrous out because I see it as a band-aid fix when it comes to power. A Supercharger or Turbo doesn't run out mid race or need to be refilled.
When it comes to Mustangs vs GM they are just plain out gunned. The Mustang has been dominated by the F-Body since 1998 and by a large margin. The 2003-2004 Cobra evened things up and the LS1 was no longer top dog. The fastest stock Cobra 1/4 was 12.69 and the fastest F-Body 1/4 was 12.89 which equals a drivers race on the street.
The new S197 GT is a joke and still hasn't caught a 1998-2002 F-Body. And for the 2007 GT500 all I have to say is what a joke. If I was a Ford junkie I wouls have demanded more than 2004 Cobra performance especially for $43,000.
People all over the net have been adding boost to them and even doing full S/C swaps and acting like 10's is gift from God. Am I the only one that remembers the 400,000 2003-2004 Cobras doing the same thing?
When it comes to Mustangs vs GM they are just plain out gunned. The Mustang has been dominated by the F-Body since 1998 and by a large margin. The 2003-2004 Cobra evened things up and the LS1 was no longer top dog. The fastest stock Cobra 1/4 was 12.69 and the fastest F-Body 1/4 was 12.89 which equals a drivers race on the street.
The new S197 GT is a joke and still hasn't caught a 1998-2002 F-Body. And for the 2007 GT500 all I have to say is
what a joke. If I was a Ford junkie I wouls have demanded more than 2004 Cobra performance especially for $43,000. People all over the net have been adding boost to them and even doing full S/C swaps and acting like 10's is gift from God. Am I the only one that remembers the 400,000 2003-2004 Cobras doing the same thing?
1. F-Bodies are for White Trash
2. F-Bodies are no longer made because they were ugly and didn't sell worth a crap.
3. The Mustang will be around long after the "next" Camaro goes out of production again.
The S197 Mustang is well built car and very solid. It does appeal to the older market but Ford is selling all of them so I am sure they dont care. Ford knows two things: Trucks and the Mustang.
This is coming from someone who owns a GM Product. If I slap a Maggie on my GTO, I might get into the 10's. Not to mention all the drivetrain parts I am either going to have to replace or fix.
12-04-2006, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by thedak
1. F-Bodies are for White Trash
2. F-Bodies are no longer made because they were ugly and didn't sell worth a crap.
3. The Mustang will be around long after the "next" Camaro goes out of production again.
The S197 Mustang is well built car and very solid. It does appeal to the older market but Ford is selling all of them so I am sure they dont care. Ford knows two things: Trucks and the Mustang.
This is coming from someone who owns a GM Product. If I slap a Maggie on my GTO, I might get into the 10's. Not to mention all the drivetrain parts I am either going to have to replace or fix.
2. F-Bodies are no longer made because they were ugly and didn't sell worth a crap.
3. The Mustang will be around long after the "next" Camaro goes out of production again.
The S197 Mustang is well built car and very solid. It does appeal to the older market but Ford is selling all of them so I am sure they dont care. Ford knows two things: Trucks and the Mustang.
This is coming from someone who owns a GM Product. If I slap a Maggie on my GTO, I might get into the 10's. Not to mention all the drivetrain parts I am either going to have to replace or fix.
wow....
anyway, if you are part of the GTO forum, then you most likely know Bruce. He's at low 11's and hasn't even gone F/I yet. Slapping a maggie on would be probably the easiest thing to do....if all you're looking for is a 1/4 mile moster though..most suggest going with the prochager
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Originally Posted by leviticus88
I can't wait till summer comes and you will eat your words! 
Just messing, poor Remz.
Just messing, poor Remz.
(yeah right)