GTO vs SS/TC and C6
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well since i must come in here... red goat, you're apparently living in your own world as per what you've posted.
1 GTO + $500 Headers + $150 Intake + $350 Dynotune + $600-750 Cam Kit = 400-450 RWHP all for a measly 1600 Throw in tires and lets make it 2 grand even. Now lets compare that to your WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY TEN GRAND??? TEN GRAND???? ARE YOU SERIOUS, FOR 400 WHP LMAO AT ANY moron that would spend 10 GRAND to make 400 WHP
i'll run down my mods and price. dynatech supermaxx 1 3/4 catted w/ 1300degree jet hot coat. $800. linginfelter intake $285. corsa sport $980. spec clutch $480. GMM $300. now i'm yet to get it dyno'd because i'm at school in virginia and home is in new jersey. i plan on going to cartek for a dyno tune asap. it should bring around 370wheel. if i had to guess right now its about 355wheel. yes i'm manual, but i dont see where you're getting at with the manual auto thing. lets not be ignorant now... both have their advantages and we all know that.
now this cam/dyno business you're talking about... you WISHHHHHH that's what a cam set up and dyno tune costs for our cars. if that was the case i would have had my car cammed the day after i bought it.
1 GTO + $500 Headers + $150 Intake + $350 Dynotune + $600-750 Cam Kit = 400-450 RWHP all for a measly 1600 Throw in tires and lets make it 2 grand even. Now lets compare that to your WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY TEN GRAND??? TEN GRAND???? ARE YOU SERIOUS, FOR 400 WHP LMAO AT ANY moron that would spend 10 GRAND to make 400 WHP
i'll run down my mods and price. dynatech supermaxx 1 3/4 catted w/ 1300degree jet hot coat. $800. linginfelter intake $285. corsa sport $980. spec clutch $480. GMM $300. now i'm yet to get it dyno'd because i'm at school in virginia and home is in new jersey. i plan on going to cartek for a dyno tune asap. it should bring around 370wheel. if i had to guess right now its about 355wheel. yes i'm manual, but i dont see where you're getting at with the manual auto thing. lets not be ignorant now... both have their advantages and we all know that.
now this cam/dyno business you're talking about... you WISHHHHHH that's what a cam set up and dyno tune costs for our cars. if that was the case i would have had my car cammed the day after i bought it.
918 springs, titanium retainers new pushrods and custom cam for 589. Or you could get dual valve springs for 699.
REDGOAT: id be suprised if you kept up with me to 130 mph. your only shot is to go above 130 mph where you have the aerodynamics advatage unless your brain is to small to realize that. why dont you just tell me your mods tough guy? what state is jonestown in? ill gladly come and race you. google came up with too many jonestowns....
for the record redgoat... i've raced restonss to 150+ on many occasions... just because you stop at 130 doesnt mean other people do. i've personally taken my car to 168... if you're a stock 5.7 good luck keeping up with either myself, restonss, or the m3. you simply cant... at any speed. (and i by no means think my 05 is fast... nor are any of the cars in discussion imo)
yea thats a joke lol any reputable shop will charge him upwards of 3k for a cam, supporting valve train, and dyno tune. he should check out cartek's website to get a little clue
yea thats a joke lol any reputable shop will charge him upwards of 3k for a cam, supporting valve train, and dyno tune. he should check out cartek's website to get a little clue
Just watch 9 mins in car made 430 there and makes 450 now.
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Pacesetter headers ceramic coated with catless mids 500. K & N New off ebay 150-200. Stock catback. clutch is a complete waste. GTO clutch is good to 450-500 WHP.
http://texas-speed.com/shop/category...MID=9&catid=49
918 springs, titanium retainers new pushrods and custom cam for 589. Or you could get dual valve springs for 699.
I live too far from you. From 40-130 I would put 10 Cars on you EASY
You raced him plenty of times AND who won?
Just watch 9 mins in car made 430 there and makes 450 now.
http://texas-speed.com/shop/category...MID=9&catid=49
918 springs, titanium retainers new pushrods and custom cam for 589. Or you could get dual valve springs for 699.
I live too far from you. From 40-130 I would put 10 Cars on you EASY
You raced him plenty of times AND who won?
Just watch 9 mins in car made 430 there and makes 450 now.
i only pull two cars on him to the top of 4th which is 140 on the money. so dont underestimate. he has one of the faster supercharged balts on this forum. your stock 04 would get quick work made of it.
pacesetter is poor quality. short primaries, terrible coating, bad bends, and only mediocre collectors.
918's are known for breaking. if you're willing to risk sending a valve through a piston, go ahead and use them. i know i sure as hell wont be when the time comes.
texas speed is a good company but they use mostly compcams which are rough on valve trains. only more reason not to use shitty 918's.
so all in all, if you want to build your gto with all the cheapest **** you can buy, go ahead. you get what you pay for. it'll only be a matter of time before there are evident signs of power loss.
and if you think the stock clutch is good to 450/500 wheel, you're smoking something, and i want some too. get real. mine went with bolt ons. fact of the matter is, our cars are heavy pigs.
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10 cars... are you serious? you may pull 5-7 cars if i had just like full exhaust and intake....my roomate with full bolt ons pulled 2 cars from 2nd thru 4th gear with my slipping belt and meth. bring it on buddy...why dont you tell me what state youre in...ill drive there, tape you "beating me by at least 10 cars" and then post it. tell me how you can beat a 290+ whp cobalt that weighs in at 3200 WITH me and everything in it if you have minor poopy bolts on and weigh over 4k with you in it and maybe 350 whp....maybe. tell me how that equals TEN cars.
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i only pull two cars on him to the top of 4th which is 140 on the money. so dont underestimate. he has one of the faster supercharged balts on this forum. your stock 04 would get quick work made of it.
pacesetter is poor quality. short primaries, terrible coating, bad bends, and only mediocre collectors.
918's are known for breaking. if you're willing to risk sending a valve through a piston, go ahead and use them. i know i sure as hell wont be when the time comes.
texas speed is a good company but they use mostly compcams which are rough on valve trains. only more reason not to use shitty 918's.
so all in all, if you want to build your gto with all the cheapest **** you can buy, go ahead. you get what you pay for. it'll only be a matter of time before there are evident signs of power loss.
pacesetter is poor quality. short primaries, terrible coating, bad bends, and only mediocre collectors.
918's are known for breaking. if you're willing to risk sending a valve through a piston, go ahead and use them. i know i sure as hell wont be when the time comes.
texas speed is a good company but they use mostly compcams which are rough on valve trains. only more reason not to use shitty 918's.
so all in all, if you want to build your gto with all the cheapest **** you can buy, go ahead. you get what you pay for. it'll only be a matter of time before there are evident signs of power loss.
Pacesetters were holding up fine for me actually.
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youre out of your mind tough guy. tell me the power to weight ratio please bc im clearly inferior to your 5.7 liter GTO. and you drive an auto so its soooo much faster than a 6.0 gto with full bolt ons that are reputable. bring what you got son
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seriously? you're THAT proud of a 415wheel gto? lmfao. you STILL wouldnt pull ten cars on restin. i give it six. four cars on me. fact of the matter is, i leave Virginia tech tomorrow morning for a 1 month winter break, and in that time i WILL be cammed n sprayed or turbo'd. you may beat me now, but certainly not "yank" me. in a few weeks, it'll be all over. you're still a joke, troll.
and for the record... even after my car is over 500wheel, no matter how it gets to that point... IT WILL STILL BE SLOW. get a clue as to what a fast car is.
and for the record... even after my car is over 500wheel, no matter how it gets to that point... IT WILL STILL BE SLOW. get a clue as to what a fast car is.
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seriously? you're THAT proud of a 415wheel gto? lmfao. you STILL wouldnt pull ten cars on restin. i give it six. four cars on me. fact of the matter is, i leave Virginia tech tomorrow morning for a 1 month winter break, and in that time i WILL be cammed n sprayed or turbo'd. you may beat me now, but certainly not "yank" me. in a few weeks, it'll be all over. you're still a joke, troll.
and for the record... even after my car is over 500wheel, no matter how it gets to that point... IT WILL STILL BE SLOW. get a clue as to what a fast car is.
and for the record... even after my car is over 500wheel, no matter how it gets to that point... IT WILL STILL BE SLOW. get a clue as to what a fast car is.
What you did not realize was in the video I pulled a ZO6 by about 2-3 cars. They trap 115-117 I also only made what in the video and what now??? Exactly. Give me Ten cars on Slowboy and 5-6 on LS2 bolt on with no tune.
Dyno numbers don't mean **** buddy. Car runs with cars that trap 118-121. Plus it only weighs in the 3400 range. YANK.
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3400 range without me in it. Either way when I hook from a 20 roll making 450WHP and 415 WTQ and you are making 290 WHP MAYBE 290WHP. Its gonna be a slaughter.
Here is a 20 roll against a Camaro Z28 with bolt on's one that would be a good run for your roommate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1_PmxPs-Bo
And thats only 416 WHP. LOL not 450.
The funny thing is I used to own a Cobalt with the exact same mods. So did my friend. When I made 350 I put 2 Cars on him. Me with a passenger him without. No weight reduction.
Plus his car was tuned by BlackG8506SS or whatever BCP is what they called him most recently. (Really cool guy by the way helped me with my tune on the cobalt as well). What I am getting at is 450WHP in a GTO is going to get you by at least 10 cars from a 20 roll. If I run a good time I should be in the mid to low 11's. While you are struggling for traction trying to make it into the high 12's at best.
Here is a 20 roll against a Camaro Z28 with bolt on's one that would be a good run for your roommate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1_PmxPs-Bo
And thats only 416 WHP. LOL not 450.
The funny thing is I used to own a Cobalt with the exact same mods. So did my friend. When I made 350 I put 2 Cars on him. Me with a passenger him without. No weight reduction.
Plus his car was tuned by BlackG8506SS or whatever BCP is what they called him most recently. (Really cool guy by the way helped me with my tune on the cobalt as well). What I am getting at is 450WHP in a GTO is going to get you by at least 10 cars from a 20 roll. If I run a good time I should be in the mid to low 11's. While you are struggling for traction trying to make it into the high 12's at best.
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and what i'm getting at is that you're trolling for no reason and your car, mid 11's or not, isnt that fast. i dont know if you're on the gto boards or not, but there are SOOOOOOOOO many goats there that would make a laughing stock of you, its not even funny. stop trolling. your car isnt that fast. so stop being a douche. you're sitting at your computer, on a COBALT forum, talking your car up. give me a BREAKKKK
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and what i'm getting at is that you're trolling for no reason and your car, mid 11's or not, isnt that fast. i dont know if you're on the gto boards or not, but there are SOOOOOOOOO many goats there that would make a laughing stock of you, its not even funny. stop trolling. your car isnt that fast. so stop being a douche. you're sitting at your computer, on a COBALT forum, talking your car up. give me a BREAKKKK
You are on a Cobalt forum why?
What does your **** make again?
I dont care what cars on LS1 gto would yank me they are not here right now.
Question is does your car have enough and sorry to say I make 100 WHP more than you NA.
You know what another funny thing is? I make the same power as alot of people who just have FI only and no supporting mods. LOL either way, Your **** is slow.
Its funny how you guys went from "OH I WOULD BEAT YOU BAD" to "AWW THERE ARE CARS ON LS1GTO THAT ARE MUCH FASTER" LOL whats next? Any more excuses other than the FACT that your **** is slow. RUN WHAT YA BRUNG. Slowpoke.
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Cause he is. And he thinks he is hot ****. Him and his roommate that is COMPLETELY convinced that his 290 WHP FWD cobalt will pull my 450 WHP RWD Goat. I couldn't script the kind of responses I get on here thats why I am on here, I am so surprised that people like this exist.
The kid spent 900 on a Corsa and like 700 on a Clutch flywheel LOL WHEN THE STOCK CLUTCH IS GOOD FOR 500 WHP.
He has put like 3-4K into his GTO. STILL does not have a dyno tune and only makes MAYBE (never been dynoed :jerkit: ) 360 WHP. SO WEAK For 3-4 K spend makes me laugh SO hard.
When I had put 4K Into my GTO it made 430 HAD A FULL DYNO TUNE. Had a cam and a ton of other ****. Had TONS of dyno pulls and sheets to prove it. Yet I am the idiot here.
Thats funnny. Have fun thinking it cost 3K to get a cam installed.
LOL How old are you again? My guess is 18. You dont know **** kid.
Also I love how you said "comp cams are off the shelf grinds"
LOL Thats why Comp cams does CUSTOM ( dont know if you learned what that means yet) Cams with dual valve springs ti retainers and pushrods for 720. LOL Like I said you dont know ****.
Have fun spending a lot of money and being slow.
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how many times do i have to tell you my car IS slow? lmfao get a clue. your car is slow too. run what you brung? okay lets run slow cars against slow cars. i bought my gto for a nice, comfortable, and moderately powerful dd. NOT TO TRY AND RUN 11 SECOND QUARTERS. and the only reason im on these boards is to look at other cars, and learn a little bit, and because my roommate has one. i dont come here to troll like you do. and if you'd like to put how slow our cars are into perspective, go on youtube, and check out why my friends at home have. its a perfect example of why my gto wasnt bought to be a power house.
look at these STREET cars, and try and tell me your car is still fast. i'd like to see you "run what you brung" against any of these cars besides bolt on for now 05.
http://www.youtube.com/user/1badfrc
btw joes frc now runs a 350 shot, putting him well over 800 wheel. <--- legitimately fast car.
darrens goat would laugh at you all day every day.
bobs cobra walks darrens car.
i dont know the guy with the 350z personally, but i have seen it, and its mean. despite how gay those cars are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYNZkNGBDz0
thats daves old head cam c5 that made upwards or 500 wheel. now he has a lemans blue 06 z06.
see what i'm getting at now? goodbye and goodnight.
look at these STREET cars, and try and tell me your car is still fast. i'd like to see you "run what you brung" against any of these cars besides bolt on for now 05.
http://www.youtube.com/user/1badfrc
btw joes frc now runs a 350 shot, putting him well over 800 wheel. <--- legitimately fast car.
darrens goat would laugh at you all day every day.
bobs cobra walks darrens car.
i dont know the guy with the 350z personally, but i have seen it, and its mean. despite how gay those cars are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYNZkNGBDz0
thats daves old head cam c5 that made upwards or 500 wheel. now he has a lemans blue 06 z06.
see what i'm getting at now? goodbye and goodnight.
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Simply amazing! For page after page all he did was throw around insults like a mokey throwing he's feces and now that hes found someone vids on line suddenly he's the defending world title holding champ. And now suddenly he has a 430WHP GTO when before again all he could do was name call. MmmmHmmm. I'm sorry but you earned this....
In fact I doubt he even owns a GTO! He probly drives a mid 80's Ford Escort!
In fact I doubt he even owns a GTO! He probly drives a mid 80's Ford Escort!
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how many times do i have to tell you my car IS slow? lmfao get a clue. your car is slow too. run what you brung? okay lets run slow cars against slow cars. i bought my gto for a nice, comfortable, and moderately powerful dd. NOT TO TRY AND RUN 11 SECOND QUARTERS. and the only reason im on these boards is to look at other cars, and learn a little bit, and because my roommate has one. i dont come here to troll like you do. and if you'd like to put how slow our cars are into perspective, go on youtube, and check out why my friends at home have. its a perfect example of why my gto wasnt bought to be a power house.
look at these STREET cars, and try and tell me your car is still fast. i'd like to see you "run what you brung" against any of these cars besides bolt on for now 05.
http://www.youtube.com/user/1badfrc
btw joes frc now runs a 350 shot, putting him well over 800 wheel. <--- legitimately fast car.
darrens goat would laugh at you all day every day.
bobs cobra walks darrens car.
i dont know the guy with the 350z personally, but i have seen it, and its mean. despite how gay those cars are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYNZkNGBDz0
thats daves old head cam c5 that made upwards or 500 wheel. now he has a lemans blue 06 z06.
see what i'm getting at now? goodbye and goodnight.
look at these STREET cars, and try and tell me your car is still fast. i'd like to see you "run what you brung" against any of these cars besides bolt on for now 05.
http://www.youtube.com/user/1badfrc
btw joes frc now runs a 350 shot, putting him well over 800 wheel. <--- legitimately fast car.
darrens goat would laugh at you all day every day.
bobs cobra walks darrens car.
i dont know the guy with the 350z personally, but i have seen it, and its mean. despite how gay those cars are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYNZkNGBDz0
thats daves old head cam c5 that made upwards or 500 wheel. now he has a lemans blue 06 z06.
see what i'm getting at now? goodbye and goodnight.
Your roommate said he would BEAT me. Then here you come in with your mouth running talking **** about how I have a stock 04. LOL
The point is that I would yank you and your roommates slow ass ****. Thanks have a nice night clown.
Also how do you like riding other peoples nuts digging up THEIR videos. Where are yours??? Oh yeah you have none. Later.
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FIRST OFF. i never said comp cams is all off the shelf grinds. pulled that one out of your ass. i said they're rough on the valve train. everyone knows that, but with a good set of rockers and springs, that can be overcome. thats why i'd never buy 918's.
second, why should i even waste my money on a dyno tune with just my bolt ons, when i know i'm going to do a cam/nitrous set up? i'm a couple months shy of being 20 AND IN COLLEGE. i'm not rich enough to throw away cash for a pointless dyno tune. and with parts/labor/dyno tune, you'll be damn clost to 3 grand at a reputable shop. like i said, check carteks website. they hold more gto 1/4 records than any other shop out there.
and i needed a clutch because my stock one let go. not for ***** and giggles. apparently mine wasnt even good enough for 350whp with some spirited driving.
i'm actually very modest... i dont come onto other forums to talk **** like you do.
second, why should i even waste my money on a dyno tune with just my bolt ons, when i know i'm going to do a cam/nitrous set up? i'm a couple months shy of being 20 AND IN COLLEGE. i'm not rich enough to throw away cash for a pointless dyno tune. and with parts/labor/dyno tune, you'll be damn clost to 3 grand at a reputable shop. like i said, check carteks website. they hold more gto 1/4 records than any other shop out there.
and i needed a clutch because my stock one let go. not for ***** and giggles. apparently mine wasnt even good enough for 350whp with some spirited driving.
i'm actually very modest... i dont come onto other forums to talk **** like you do.