I went to jail last night!!!!
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Heres some info for ya
http://www.bailyes.com/miranda_rights.htm
The Miranda rights do not protect you from being arrested, only from incriminating yourself during questioning. All police need to legally arrest a person is "probable cause" -- an adequate reason based on facts and events to believe the person has committed a crime. Police are required to "Read him his (Miranda) rights," only before interrogating a suspect. While failure to do so may cause any subsequent statements to be thrown out of court, the arrest may still be legal and valid.
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too bad the battery life sucks. now if you would just wire it up to your car's battery, then there would be no problem.
but it is possible to hardwire with a little work.
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It lasts 5-7 days, thats pretty good I would think.
but it is possible to hardwire with a little work.
but it is possible to hardwire with a little work.
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wow, crazy. i know in Alberta here if they dont have a pic of you doin over the speed limit they cant dp ****. and if they try, go to court with the ticket, and the cops wont even show up. so basically your good to go. but dude, your 2miles from the MEXICAN border!!!??? OF COURSE theres gonna be cops everywhere. i dunno what to suggest except for saying that you were street racing is ******* bullshit and have the cops show PROOF that you were. Proof is what makes of breaks everything. if you were under the speed limit i dont see how they can do ****. good luck dude.
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Is it a criminal offence to race??????? I thought you just get a speeding ticket? or is it considered careless????
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HEY HEY Victim # 2 of the texas arresting people for street racing act. I pretty much got the same thing last october, Except I was racing, didn't get my rights read to me, spent about 13 hours in jail, had to pay to get my car out, its still in trial as I type.
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i got a ticket for drag racing and the cop told me he could take me to jail for wreckless driving but didnt and i just had to go to driver improvement class and it was deferred for 90 days. but i had nothing but 1 speeding ticket on my recent record. what sucks for my friend is that less than a month later he got sent to jail and they impounded his car for the same thing so here in NM its a 50/50 chance just depends on the cop that pulls you over i guess
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I have this device to clear Cell Codes etc... But if you leave it in, it will log about 300hrs of data... It shows Speed, braking etc... I haven't really played with it, so I don't know if it will log exact time when you stop go etc...
http://www.davisnet.com/drive/produc...p_products.asp
http://www.davisnet.com/drive/produc...p_products.asp
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if you were not read your miranda rights nor was your registration taken then I would fight it. Unless you do not have the money. They must have you radared or lasered going above the speed limit or their case is fukt.... So get a lawyer and fight that ****.
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miranda rights dont mean **** anymore... i was arrested and charged and probation and all that nonsense and i was never read my miranda rights at all.. i told my lawyer this (ex-DA) and she said they dont have to read you your rights blada blada and some excuse.. to me its all bullshit and what not..
but then again.. i was kinda caught red-handed and it was alot worse then street racing
but then again.. i was kinda caught red-handed and it was alot worse then street racing
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the box logs everything. thats why at the dealer they look at that. how u drive the car. like if u clutch goes bad they look how fast ur acceleration is and if u redline it and so on and so forth so have them log it when u got pulled over
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Originally Posted by cheesetits
Mission Texas is about 2 miles form the mexican border. Can they really read the black box. On top of that i didn't even know that vehichles had a black box. Honestly, I don't think I'm even going to have to go to that extent one they find out I wasn't read my rights.
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Hi Cheese -
I beat a drag racing ticket in court once.
That is one of the hardest tickets to prosecute - they have to show intent to race.
If you did not race, it will be difficult for the prosecution to prove that you intended to race.
Your friend must state on the record that he accelerated hard from the stop, but that he was not intending to race
Put the officer(s) on the stand and ask them what they first noticed (i.e. squealing tires, revving engines etc ...). This will establish when the officer first thought you were racing.
Then ask the officer how fast he estimates YOUR speed during the incident.
Do not just roll over and plead guilty. I stuck it too them in court because the officer said he saw us both at the stop light and then we accelerated hard off the line (we did... ) , yet when I asked him (while he was on the stand ) what got his attention, he said it was squealing tires and loud exhaust (revving engines...).
Ooops - that was contrary to his statement that indicated he was watching us sitting at the light.....Judge hands us both back our licenses and we walk. Case dismissed.
Good luck.
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mqqn
I beat a drag racing ticket in court once.
That is one of the hardest tickets to prosecute - they have to show intent to race.
If you did not race, it will be difficult for the prosecution to prove that you intended to race.
Your friend must state on the record that he accelerated hard from the stop, but that he was not intending to race
Put the officer(s) on the stand and ask them what they first noticed (i.e. squealing tires, revving engines etc ...). This will establish when the officer first thought you were racing.
Then ask the officer how fast he estimates YOUR speed during the incident.
Do not just roll over and plead guilty. I stuck it too them in court because the officer said he saw us both at the stop light and then we accelerated hard off the line (we did... ) , yet when I asked him (while he was on the stand ) what got his attention, he said it was squealing tires and loud exhaust (revving engines...).
Ooops - that was contrary to his statement that indicated he was watching us sitting at the light.....Judge hands us both back our licenses and we walk. Case dismissed.
Good luck.
best regards -
mqqn
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Originally Posted by Cobalt30
ur friend is the one that screwd you over. for a 'race" to take place it most have one of following.
-spin tires
-betting anything
-agreement between the drivers if its just for fun.
also the cops do have voice recording during all traffic stops and i wouldnt worry bout getting a cop in trouble for him being a f*ck up and not reading you your rights. thats his mistake your gain.
-spin tires
-betting anything
-agreement between the drivers if its just for fun.
also the cops do have voice recording during all traffic stops and i wouldnt worry bout getting a cop in trouble for him being a f*ck up and not reading you your rights. thats his mistake your gain.
At least in Illinois - all you need to prove is "Intent to race".
No other requirements.
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Originally Posted by Acidangel_5.0
miranda rights dont mean **** anymore... i was arrested and charged and probation and all that nonsense and i was never read my miranda rights at all.. i told my lawyer this (ex-DA) and she said they dont have to read you your rights blada blada and some excuse.. to me its all bullshit and what not..
but then again.. i was kinda caught red-handed and it was alot worse then street racing
but then again.. i was kinda caught red-handed and it was alot worse then street racing
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I am a criminal justice major and i am an intern with the Greeley Police. Miranda rights only need to be read befor any interogation. They are usualy never read before or durring an arrest. They don't need your registration eather, Everything is linked to your name, birthdate, SSN, ID# and liscesnse plate number. But, it does suck that that cop is a *****.
Oh, and for the rcerod, you hvae aolt of porlbems tpynig.
(It's weird how you can read that and understand it)
Anyway, at some point during the arrest, be it after you arrive at the jail house or not, I have always been read my Miranda rights. But there is a reason for this. Unless you have been read your Miranda's, your lawyer can shoot down anything the cop says in court. But being as you didn't admit to anything, it shouldn't apply here.
Your registration only proves that your vehicle is registered.
Sorry if I am wrong, just adding my 2 cents.
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Originally Posted by cheesetits
The cop told me it was a class b misdemeanor, but they treated me like i was a felon. I was put in a cell with guys who were in there for domestic abuse, aggravated assault, rape, and believe it or not a member of Mara Salvatrucha. Heres brief article on the gang.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7244879/site/newsweek/
I really don't think I belong in that jail cell. When I told the rest of the inmates what i was in for they ******* laught with me, or at me. hahaha.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7244879/site/newsweek/
I really don't think I belong in that jail cell. When I told the rest of the inmates what i was in for they ******* laught with me, or at me. hahaha.
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actually miranda rights must be read before you are booked... for a CJ major you must have went to sleep a couple of times. Because during the booking process you can say something that the courts can use against you in a trial.. You might want to stay awake before the next lecture.
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Originally Posted by 1stbluSS
actually miranda rights must be read before you are booked... for a CJ major you must have went to sleep a couple of times. Because during the booking process you can say something that the courts can use against you in a trial.. You might want to stay awake before the next lecture.
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yes you can say something during the booking process that can be used in court, they are called ras geste (sp?) statements. I work as a security gaurd for a large department store, and i have made civilian arressts on many individuals. I have also sat in with nassau county police department as they book arressties, they do not have to read you miranda unless they will be questioning you about the incident. Infact, the policy for those arressted is to not be read miranda so ras geste statements can be made and recorded, they leave miranda up to the detectives that will pursue the case.
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Originally Posted by importkiller
I am a criminal justice major and i am an intern with the Greeley Police. Miranda rights only need to be read befor any interogation. They are usualy never read before or durring an arrest. They don't need your registration eather, Everything is linked to your name, birthdate, SSN, ID# and liscesnse plate number. But, it does suck that that cop is a *****.
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Originally Posted by cheesetits
So i get out of work at around 2 in the morning wednesday, and my buddy and I are driving side by side. So we get to a light and we just sat there talking about how much work sucks waiting till the light turned green. When it does he punches it and his tires squeel. I accelerate normaly and later catch up to him going under the speed limit which is 55 mph. After passing him i see cop lights behind him and he starts to pull over. Me being a nice guy I decided to pull over further down the road just in case he needed something. Well, another cop gets up behind me and ask me for my license. After returning with it he pulls me out of my car and places me under arrest for racing. I was conffused, but we both were on the way to jail, then later to county jail. I wasn't read my rights or asked for registration for my vehicle. The whole arrest happend within 2 minutes and I had to pay to get my car out of the inpound. And soon to pay court cost. WTF ?????????????? I wasn't even racing this time and i got arrested. Isn't that irony.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cobalt30ur friend is the one that screwd you over. for a 'race" to take place it most have one of following.
-spin tires
-betting anything
-agreement between the drivers if its just for fun.
also the cops do have voice recording during all traffic stops and i wouldnt worry bout getting a cop in trouble for him being a f*ck up and not reading you your rights. thats his mistake your gain.
first i would like to say that you DO NOT HAVE TO BE READ YOUR MIRANDA RIGHTS for certain misdemeanors, with drag racing falling into this category. Secondly, (at least in Michigan) to be charged with drag racing, two people must be doing the following: accelerating at a high rate of speed side by side, and must be going OVER the posted speed limit. Betting agreements or even conversation between the two drivers is completely irrelevant, and not required for a D/R charge. Spinning tires is also not required. FYI not asking you for your registration means nothing.
-spin tires
-betting anything
-agreement between the drivers if its just for fun.
also the cops do have voice recording during all traffic stops and i wouldnt worry bout getting a cop in trouble for him being a f*ck up and not reading you your rights. thats his mistake your gain.
first i would like to say that you DO NOT HAVE TO BE READ YOUR MIRANDA RIGHTS for certain misdemeanors, with drag racing falling into this category. Secondly, (at least in Michigan) to be charged with drag racing, two people must be doing the following: accelerating at a high rate of speed side by side, and must be going OVER the posted speed limit. Betting agreements or even conversation between the two drivers is completely irrelevant, and not required for a D/R charge. Spinning tires is also not required. FYI not asking you for your registration means nothing.