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Old 07-10-2009, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by FutureEcotecOwner
And your stock SS/TC makes more power than your Matrix, and your stock SS/TC would get raped by a c5 Vette.
I agree a C5 would yank you, unless it was a 1997 Auto tragic vert with 2 300LB people
Old 07-10-2009, 11:33 PM
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Watch the vid
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
Watch the vid
Looks like the video shows an inexperience vette driver at the track who once gained steam was running away from you in the end. no offense.
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OK, so it's not possible I ran into another on my ride to work tho....Why would I post 4 stories and BS about 1?? LOL! I have better things to do man...Just trying to spread the Cobalt love here
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
OK, so it's not possible I ran into another on my ride to work tho....Why would I post 4 stories and BS about 1?? LOL! I have better things to do man...Just trying to spread the Cobalt love here
I love Cobalts too man just got rid of mine cause it didn't love me back.
Old 07-11-2009, 12:15 AM
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That's the story with VW for me had a nice golf and it turned to **** FAST! LOL!
Old 07-11-2009, 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 1100psi
I agree a C5 would yank you, unless it was a 1997 Auto tragic vert with 2 300LB people
97's were the first ls1's. Still 108+ trap cars.
Old 07-11-2009, 08:19 AM
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The one I raced was not trapping that high! 105 at best all night..
Old 07-11-2009, 12:25 PM
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he was definitely steam rolling and comin up hot.

still you won
you beat the driver
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Watch it a few times, I thought that as well. The camera angle is a lil deceiving! From in the car we were side by side at 1K mark and then he just started to pull ahead and got me by the long corvette hood LOL!
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Originally Posted by 1100psi
Why do you keep talking about the matrix like we give a ****, all we want to know is what you are putting down in your COBALT SS TURBO!

So your SS/TC makes 250WHP and you pulled a C5 by 5 lengths.

Sorry but bullshit.

From a roll I can see even a stock TC staying dead even with or beating a C5. Not from a dig though.
Old 07-11-2009, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
From a roll I can see even a stock TC staying dead even with or beating a C5. Not from a dig though.
I believe we had this discussion a week or so ago about LS1 F-bodies vs stock SS/TC's from a roll. And everyone was saying that the SS/TC would get raped. From a roll I think the SS/TC can hang, maybe not win but it wont be destruction.
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Originally Posted by FutureEcotecOwner
I believe we had this discussion a week or so ago about LS1 F-bodies vs stock SS/TC's from a roll. And everyone was saying that the SS/TC would get raped. From a roll I think the SS/TC can hang, maybe not win but it wont be destruction.
...You guys realize you are talking about a car that will never trap over 105 stock and a car that has trapped 110 in 100% stock form with multiple drivers? To hang next to a stock c5 from a roll I had long tubes, cut outs, 4.10's and a tune. I was trapping 108 at lapeer, probably a 110-112 trap anywhere that doesn't take traps with a stop watch and piece of string. There is no way a stock ss/tc should stay next to a stock c5 from a roll. You guys need to understand that a c5 weighs just over 3200 lbs and makes around 300rwhp.
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The video posted is a clear example of how the SS/TC would get murdered from a roll....He got the upper hand from the dig, but the vette caught and passed you because it has superior trap speed. Vette wins from roll all day.
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Either way, I admitted that the video I seen was of a tuned SS/TC vs an LS1. Stock for stock I dont think the SS/TC will get destroyed, but with a tune it will be alot closer.
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Originally Posted by FutureEcotecOwner
Either way, I admitted that the video I seen was of a tuned SS/TC vs an LS1. Stock for stock I dont think the SS/TC will get destroyed, but with a tune it will be alot closer.

Give us two weeks and well give you TONS of stock cobalt SS/TC getting ass raped by a lot of cars.

And Its my car.

These are the types of threads why I cant stand this website sometimes.

A C5 6 speed Vette weighs 3200lbs and makes around 300-310 stock.

A Cobalt SS turbo weighs 2900-3000 and makes 230-245WHP stock.

Now can you guys please explain to me how in the **** a Cobalt is going to win making a good 60-70WHP less and weighing a mere 200LBs less and having shittier aerodynamics?

The cobalt would need to make AT LEAST 290WHP to run with a stock 6 speed C5 from a roll.

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Old 07-13-2009, 07:47 PM
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Well, I will be getting my flash very soon and we'll see how it goes then
Old 07-13-2009, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
From a roll I can see even a stock TC staying dead even with or beating a C5. Not from a dig though.
Stop filling TC owners heads with that false info please, thank you! Management!
Old 07-14-2009, 03:27 AM
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Terminator2....thats like saying I can see a stock srt4 run even with a stock cobra from a roll....but not from a dig....***** just rediculous.
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
Man these things are NASTY on the highway, top end for days and people just CAN NOT hang

1st race was vs my buddy's 04 Matrix XRS-Turbo. It's a car that I built and tuned, GT28RS turbo! Here is a vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rvS3AOJ0D8

We ran a few times on the highway from 70ish. Every race it was back and forth, as we started it was pretty even, I hit 5K rpm and picked up pulling away slightly. He then hit Lift and began to pull back. I would no-lift and he would shift, again I would make a gap, he would hit Lift and pull it back. Not til around 125-130 did I start to actually make a gap that he couldn't gain back!



2nd race was post wedding after a night of **** talking by another groomsman. He has a SRT4 - Stg2 and nothing otherwise. Again we headed to the highway and it started from 65 this time. Another great race, it was pretty even only pulling maybe a half a car per gear! Once I hit 5th tho, it really was all over for him!!! I heard they have the same trans?? Maybe diff gearing? Regardless, this was another good race up til that 125-130 point, the SS just drops the speedo from there FAST! And away I went


The next couple are people that just don't realize what a new SS has


1st in this series was a 1.8T GTI, no clue on mods or year. It sounded like it had a muffler delete or a catless turbo-back! It spit and gargled and amplified under boost like a straight exhaust. I figured this would be a good run...WRONG! It was over as soon as it started. We slowed to about 60 and he honked it even..As soon as it started the pulling began like mad, I no-lifted to 4h and was WAY gone when I looked back!

2nd is a C5 vette, middle aged man that I'm sure assumed he could take a 4 banger easy. Well..he couldn't have been more wrong! We were cruising about 75-80, I was keeping pace. He then downshifts and tries to take off on me, I dropped quickly and mashed on it! I pulled the 2 mybe 3 car gap he made, no-lift shift and made the pass! The gap grew and grew. He did the famous...NOT going to pull up on the side after that, I don't care if you slow down to 25 LOL!!!!!! Love those

There's a couple more, but I don't want to sound like I'm a "street racer". I'm an avid drag racer and occasional auto-crosser.
I dont think he was racing u. No way a stock TC is going to take a C5, but not pull a stage 2 ONLY nsrt4.

I call teh BS on this race. Stock TC's are slow.
Old 07-14-2009, 10:43 AM
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Watch teh vids...hung pretty well.

and stock tc's are slow coming from a sc guy LOL!
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
Watch teh vids...hung pretty well.

and stock tc's are slow coming from a sc guy LOL!
Im not SC'd......

I have a 52 mm turbo.....
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well excuse me...

well, like I said, I have no reason to lie. And I even wrote later, maybe he didn't want to go so fast? Maybe he let off? I really don't know. Im not praising the TC like it's a Vette killer either LOL! Just listing people I raced and feel I beat. The vid shows with good driving vs bad driving the TC has a chance!
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
well excuse me...

well, like I said, I have no reason to lie. And I even wrote later, maybe he didn't want to go so fast? Maybe he let off? I really don't know. Im not praising the TC like it's a Vette killer either LOL! Just listing people I raced and feel I beat. The vid shows with good driving vs bad driving the TC has a chance!
k. Good man
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