superSS/SC

Actually, in Canada they are 180hp 126 tq, USDM 170hp 121tq, but since the thread starter is in the US maybe it doesn't matter about the difference...hmmm??

Either way GSRs with bolt-ons can touch 13s.

BooSSted

iTrader: (3)

BULLSHIT. No way in HELL you made 50+ WHP with those mods and ran a 13.8. Especially with the GSR tranny and a serious lack of torque.

superSS/SC

Torque=bad in FWD cars, hp from high rpms= good in FWD cars

Do some more research, Hondas as well as most imports come highly restricted from the factory, so it is very easy to get 50+whp with bolt ons and increased redline.

Z24_4LIFE

**** gsr's...theres a reason they stopped production ...
cobalts are the way to go...

Evilfrog

It happens. By more mods.

Mines_Better

man i dont know about all this 13's stuff. i have raced many gsr's and never even been touched by them. it was a joke. my buddy's 4.0 explorer beats them. one i raced had plenty more than just I/H/E and i still handed it to him. i seriously doubt that guy only had I/H/E, but i also doubt that he was turbo. if he was turbo he would have beaten you much worse.

06cobaltls

integras are a very nice car, i have seen one run the 1/8th when i was at the track he was running 9s consistant, i dont know what was done, but i dont think it was the gsr, but i figure this number could help set a better 1/4, i think that would be a high 14 low 15, but dont hold me to it

superSS/SC

Very intelligent. They stopped production because they had a far superior 4 cylinder coming out. k series

Not everyone likes our cars, the same as you don't like Hondas. But because of bigots like you that don't respect other cars, the Cobalts still do not get any respect.

superSS/SC

What did he have done then???

05sedan

bolt on tegs can not touch 13s with easy....u have to have extensive work done
i/h/e/c, ported/polished head,bigger tb,bigger intake mani,lightened flywheel, and then it might hit a 14 flat/high 13..... also how much boost is ur friend running and explain built...forged pistons/rods?,metal head gasket?,arp headbolts?,upgraded valvetrain?

superSS/SC

GSRs and especially Type-Rs do not need that much work to run 13s.

Listerman

extensive motor work to a GSR will easily put you in the 12's. bolt-ons like:

intake, header, exhaust, test pipe, cam gears, intake manifold, throttle body, fuel rail, ACT clutch and a 11lb flyhweel = 13.5 gutted.

ill post a list of an extensive build ALL MOTOR gsr that puts down around 250whp and runs 12s

Mines_Better

it was a civic hatch with a GSR swap in it. the things i remember are I/H/E, no cat, cams, one of those engine control things(not sure what they are called), and an aftermarket tb. he had more, but i dont remember all the stuff or whether or not they were big mods that would help much.
to add, the GSRs are great motors capable of great times, especially when boosted, but im just not too sure about this 13 sec thing with just I/H/E.

Listerman

no not just I/H/E. 14.6-14.8 maybe.


not to hate but i call BS on an SS beating a b18c1 hatch w/ those modifications unless he was not properly tuned after being cammed. and proper tune i do not mean using that engine control thingy, or a VAFC/SAFC im assuming.

Z24_4LIFE

ur giving way to much credit to these honda motors...their not as fast as u guys are saying...some of the fastest civics in north america are in my area and are touching those numbers with more then intake headers, exhaust and little things ur mentioning

West Palm SRT4

No, your not giving them enough credit. All it takes is a B or K series motor in a 1200 pound hatch body to give you a run for your money.

superSS/SC

Exactly.
one of the top 5 fastest street driven Honda's lives here, runs low 9s, one high 8 pass I believe and he drives it on the street sometimes. And I bet he has a lot less invested then anyone here THINKS.

It is cheaper to make a RSX type s run 10s than a Cobalt ss/sc.

Mines_Better

i have no idea how it was tuned. it could have been terribly done. all im sayin is i beat him and thats what he told me he had. hell he could have been lying. he said he could take a 350z, yet i absolutely killed him. even with this in mind, i still do not believe that a GSR with just I/H/E can push 13's, i would just have to see it.

panblackrose

None of you who are talking **** are giving hondas and imports credit. You obviously haven't driven or owned one because if you did you would know the potential behind them. Why do you think everyone buys them? Because they're cheap? No, because they kick ass with very little money, plus everything has been done so its easy to find help. I would be surprised if a gsr with minor mods walked on an SS/SC, considering I used to own a Honda Civic EX 4 door with minor mods that would hang with most cars simply because the gearing was great. I wouldn't be out of second until 65mph around 7500+ rpm

LiL Sang

i've seen rsx type s with i/h/e/kpro putting down high 13's

i believe you... my friend did have a stock 95 GSR that ran 14.59 quarter mile with sticky tires.

BlueSS-supercharged

i got beat by about 2 car lengths when i was stock by a swapped b16 with i/e/maybe headers and a gutted crx body. i was so pissed lost 20 bucks to a douche bag. wont race me now tho, takes my money and runs

BaltM62

im not bashing you, most of your points are valid and you know your honda ****. i used to have a b16 swapped crx.. but i have to disagree I/H/E b18c1 in a teg isnt going to touch anything below 14.4, and thats with a great driver. i know someone who ran a 15.7 ( the exact stock quarter mile as the mags) in his GSR. he got I/H/E and he ran a 14.6 and i was amzed..b series are great w/ boost..but i doubt he can run a 13.8

Listerman

i dont recall anyone stating a b18c1 with I/H/E would touch anything below 14.4. Magazines are bullshit. car and driver just slams through gears without dropping the gas pedal. 13.8 is easily capable with a gutted b18c1, I/H/E, intake mani, throttle body, clutch, flywheel, test pipe, and a nice suspension setup and sticky tires. if you slap some cam gears, a set of cams, valve springs and retainers, some pulleys and a few hours of tuning you will easily pull a 13.5 if not lower.

BaltM62

no one said anything about DR's( if thats what you mean by sticky tires) i wouldnt doubt a gsr would be in the high 13's with all that **** done i was talking about I/H/E..

Z24_4LIFE

ya ya..iv driven enough cars in my time..its not a big deal to have driven hondas...u need to invest enuff money them to run...stock for stock..i like american cars vs the competetion...and if u have the money for american cars then hell go for it...its worth it