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09-20-2006, 12:10 AM
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theres some guy in my area..has a gutted 2001 old body cavalier..looks cheap ..pure sleeper...he swapped a 2.2 ecotec motor...turbo'd it and all this other **** about 10,000
hes eaten c5's
hes eaten c5's
09-20-2006, 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BaltM62
im not bashing you, most of your points are valid and you know your honda ****. i used to have a b16 swapped crx.. but i have to disagree I/H/E b18c1 in a teg isnt going to touch anything below 14.4, and thats with a great driver. i know someone who ran a 15.7 ( the exact stock quarter mile as the mags) in his GSR. he got I/H/E and he ran a 14.6 and i was amzed..b series are great w/ boost..but i doubt he can run a 13.8
he ran 15.3 or 15.4 stock.
he also ran 14.4 in his CRX SI with just a 40shot and slicks.
09-20-2006, 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by superSS/SC
Torque=bad in FWD cars, hp from high rpms= good in FWD carsDo some more research, Hondas as well as most imports come highly restricted from the factory, so it is very easy to get 50+whp with bolt ons and increased redline.
I don't need to do any reasearch on Hondas. All my research has been done while kicking the **** out of them up and down the road. I have had many friends with cars from swapped CRX's up to SC Type R's. I know these cars and I know what they can do. There is no one that can add an intake and exhaust to a B18 and make an extra 50WHP, I don't give a **** who they are. We can't even make those gains on a supercharged car with those mods so how in the hell is it going to happen on an N/A 1.8L engine?
Oh and exactly what is restrictive about a 1.8L engine that revs to 8000rpm and makes 200hp STOCK (Type R)???
09-20-2006, 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BooSSted
Oh, how silly of my to think that torque is a bad thing......Dude, your a ******* moron.
I don't need to do any reasearch on Hondas. All my research has been done while kicking the **** out of them up and down the road. I have had many friends with cars from swapped CRX's up to SC Type R's. I know these cars and I know what they can do. There is no one that can add an intake and exhaust to a B18 and make an extra 50WHP, I don't give a **** who they are. We can't even make those gains on a supercharged car with those mods so how in the hell is it going to happen on an N/A 1.8L engine?
Oh and exactly what is restrictive about a 1.8L engine that revs to 8000rpm and makes 200hp STOCK (Type R)???
I don't need to do any reasearch on Hondas. All my research has been done while kicking the **** out of them up and down the road. I have had many friends with cars from swapped CRX's up to SC Type R's. I know these cars and I know what they can do. There is no one that can add an intake and exhaust to a B18 and make an extra 50WHP, I don't give a **** who they are. We can't even make those gains on a supercharged car with those mods so how in the hell is it going to happen on an N/A 1.8L engine?
Oh and exactly what is restrictive about a 1.8L engine that revs to 8000rpm and makes 200hp STOCK (Type R)???
You think you know, but you have no idea, this ^^^^ is the diary of a Cobalt Fanboi.
09-20-2006, 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by BooSSted
Oh, how silly of my to think that torque is a bad thing......Dude, your a ******* moron.
I don't need to do any reasearch on Hondas. All my research has been done while kicking the **** out of them up and down the road. I have had many friends with cars from swapped CRX's up to SC Type R's. I know these cars and I know what they can do. There is no one that can add an intake and exhaust to a B18 and make an extra 50WHP, I don't give a **** who they are. We can't even make those gains on a supercharged car with those mods so how in the hell is it going to happen on an N/A 1.8L engine?
Oh and exactly what is restrictive about a 1.8L engine that revs to 8000rpm and makes 200hp STOCK (Type R)???
I don't need to do any reasearch on Hondas. All my research has been done while kicking the **** out of them up and down the road. I have had many friends with cars from swapped CRX's up to SC Type R's. I know these cars and I know what they can do. There is no one that can add an intake and exhaust to a B18 and make an extra 50WHP, I don't give a **** who they are. We can't even make those gains on a supercharged car with those mods so how in the hell is it going to happen on an N/A 1.8L engine?
Oh and exactly what is restrictive about a 1.8L engine that revs to 8000rpm and makes 200hp STOCK (Type R)???
09-20-2006, 03:31 AM
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Correction...
Sorry to correct you guys, but the Type R, from 96-01 (includes the JDM ones), have 197 horsepower and the redline on them is 8400 rpms. Three of my buddies have Type R's and are nuts about them and their history. In Japan, they equate to 200ps. ~ 197hp. (US)
Just by I/H/E you will not pull 50 whp, I pulled 161whp in my 95 GSR, with those. Now, if you introduce tuning and a few other things, then, yes, you can achieve a shitload of power for the vehicle's weight,and whoop the **** out of most things.
Just for your info...
Just by I/H/E you will not pull 50 whp, I pulled 161whp in my 95 GSR, with those. Now, if you introduce tuning and a few other things, then, yes, you can achieve a shitload of power for the vehicle's weight,and whoop the **** out of most things.
Just for your info...
09-20-2006, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by burntorange
Sorry to correct you guys, but the Type R, from 96-01 (includes the JDM ones), have 197 horsepower and the redline on them is 8400 rpms. Three of my buddies have Type R's and are nuts about them and their history. In Japan, they equate to 200ps. ~ 197hp. (US)
Just by I/H/E you will not pull 50 whp, I pulled 161whp in my 95 GSR, with those. Now, if you introduce tuning and a few other things, then, yes, you can achieve a shitload of power for the vehicle's weight,and whoop the **** out of most things.
Just for your info...
Just by I/H/E you will not pull 50 whp, I pulled 161whp in my 95 GSR, with those. Now, if you introduce tuning and a few other things, then, yes, you can achieve a shitload of power for the vehicle's weight,and whoop the **** out of most things.
Just for your info...
And nobody said with just I/H/E you could gain 50whp, the argument was for just bolt-on to gain 50whp, which is very easily done.
09-20-2006, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by superSS/SC
not to sound too cliche, but my cousin ran 13.7 i/h/e slicks some weight reduction in his GSR I don't remember if he was tuned or not.
09-20-2006, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Mines_Better
see now i could see much better times with slicks, and your cousin most likely was tuned to get that kind of improvement in his time. but, the original topic was about a GSR with i/h/e, thats it. one could safely assume that he didnt have slicks, so the question is... is that really all he had?
The world may never know. lol
Maybe Florida's Finest, didn't launch as good as he thinks and the guy was completely gutted?
09-20-2006, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by superSS/SC
SEE.... do more research! OLD ITRs have 195hp not 200hp stock and rev higher than 8000rpm.
You think you know, but you have no idea, this ^^^^ is the diary of a Cobalt Fanboi.
You think you know, but you have no idea, this ^^^^ is the diary of a Cobalt Fanboi.
Facts of the matter still dont change........Your a loser and Honda's with I/H/E are still slow. Case closed.
Oh, and just an FYI
very well put my last car was 99 integra w/ I/H/E and a vtec controller i pulled 194whp on a dyno jet. good driver(not me a friend) 13.8
09-20-2006, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BooSSted
Oh, sorry for being a retard, I was off by a whole 5 hp. I do have to admit, I don't have a subscription to motortrend and I don't read a lot of reviews from "journalists" who don't know **** from a hole in the ground. So I am not completely up to date on the exact factory claimed hp of every Honda ever made.
Facts of the matter still dont change........Your a loser and Honda's with I/H/E are still slow. Case closed.
Oh, and just an FYI
^^^That's what I called BS on. 194 WHP is at LEAST 50WHP more than stock. Maybe you should read the whole post before you start flappin your gums next time.
Facts of the matter still dont change........Your a loser and Honda's with I/H/E are still slow. Case closed.
Oh, and just an FYI
^^^That's what I called BS on. 194 WHP is at LEAST 50WHP more than stock. Maybe you should read the whole post before you start flappin your gums next time.
09-20-2006, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by superSS/SC
You said with bolt-ons no honda could gain 50whp. You are completely wrong. Do not backpedal now.
Only thing I have stated in this thread is a B18 with Intake and Exhaust. That's it.
09-20-2006, 12:01 PM
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Actually you said.
How do you know it is 50+whp, maybe he had a factory freak?
and we were talking about i/h/e and vtec controller
Originally Posted by BooSSted
BULLSHIT. No way in HELL you made 50+ WHP with those mods and ran a 13.8. Especially with the GSR tranny and a serious lack of torque.
How do you know it is 50+whp, maybe he had a factory freak?
and we were talking about i/h/e and vtec controller
09-20-2006, 12:06 PM
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Actually even more proof you know nothing... http://www.geocities.com/dynocenter/00R_mmod_stock.jpg
stock they (type Rs) dyno around 160whp
so it easy to assume a GSR with I/H/E will make a lot of power
stock they (type Rs) dyno around 160whp
so it easy to assume a GSR with I/H/E will make a lot of power
09-20-2006, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BooSSted
Ok, you know what. Your being a pain in my ass. WE AREN'T TAKING ABOUT A TYPE R.......We are talking about a GSR.
09-20-2006, 12:28 PM
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A Stock GSR is rated around 170 hp. A Stock Type R is around 195 hp. No this is an ESTIMATION Mr. Motortrend so don't work out into a fit here.
195 Crank hp = 160 whp so that works out to about a 20% drivetrain loss.
SO
170 Crank hp = APPROX 140 whp
Now, if we take 194 whp as quoted in a previous post, and subtract the estimated stock whp from that we get 54 whp.
Now do you see where I was coming from?
195 Crank hp = 160 whp so that works out to about a 20% drivetrain loss.
SO
170 Crank hp = APPROX 140 whp
Now, if we take 194 whp as quoted in a previous post, and subtract the estimated stock whp from that we get 54 whp.
Now do you see where I was coming from?
09-20-2006, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by superSS/SC
http://www.geocities.com/dynocenter/97gsr_jdugan.html .... that is just catback and intake
09-20-2006, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by superSS/SC
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop???
The world may never know. lol
Maybe Florida's Finest, didn't launch as good as he thinks and the guy was completely gutted?
The world may never know. lol
Maybe Florida's Finest, didn't launch as good as he thinks and the guy was completely gutted?
09-20-2006, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BooSSted
The shoe fits..............
Originally Posted by BooSSted
Oh, how silly of my to think that torque is a bad thing......Dude, your a ******* moron.
09-20-2006, 04:06 PM
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dude he could have alot done thats not visible from just looking under the hood. he could have had skunk2 cams for instance, ported head, ported intake mani, higher compression, ect. those honda guys are sneaky, gotta watch out.