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Old 04-29-2011, 09:50 AM
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Stock suspension on f-bodies leaves a lot to be desired. The car is too soft and has too much body flex. However, its sad that most people build them for drag because properly setup they can actually be pretty damn good. I love turns and am willing to sacrifice a few tenths in order to corner.
My brother and I used to screw around all the time on the way home from work .... he had a 96 Z24 and I a 95 Z28 . He would keep that little bitch pinned around corners that I had to lift for lol..... and was always there till the straights hehe

My Z was a handful on anything but the smoothest roads ...it didn't take much to unsettle the rear and would try to hop it's way out. I bought the car new so it wasn't like there was anything worn or bad.... just couldnt absorb anything uneven.
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The solid rear can get upset in the corner under bumps.
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Wow, just read this. so didn't happen sorry op. I raced a CTS-v the other night. found him today after work. I got a look, not even a supercharged one. just a fully bolted LS2... and cts-vs are heavy as hell, he kept me from pulling on him very much. A LS1 built the way you are talking about is going to be very very fast, from a roll even you don't have a chance.
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Holy **** I think I found the video of this race... Trans am STOCK VS Cobalt SS/TC TUNE.
YouTube - LS1 WS6 vs Turbo Cobalt

Wait never mind the trans am the op raced was H/C lol " LS1 arnt fast I dont know why people brag so much about them" I dont know either jonathan923 you can clearly see how that trans am had a built storked 408 with a procharger and spraying a 200 shot of nitrous o and im sure the car was completely gutted too running on race gas with bigs and littles.
Old 05-02-2011, 10:59 AM
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I see and i know V8s get very but hurt when they loose to a 4 cylinder, seen it and done it...to my experiece my closest race on waste gate boost was an ls2 c6 and got him by almost a car by 120. all he had was an intake and he wanted to shoot him self after loosing to a cobalt...so i could care less what all yall v8 ls1 fanboys can say...either way any car with money can be fast.

Infact they get so buthurt they have to PM me to brag about it lmao wow kids now days...
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sorry to the OP, but as the owner of both an 09 SS cobalt with some mods and a BYT tune and a fully bolted heads cam LS1 6-speed trans am there is no way you pulled that hard on an ls1 car.... an LT1 maybe....
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Originally Posted by jonathan923
I see and i know V8s get very but hurt when they loose to a 4 cylinder, seen it and done it...to my experiece my closest race on waste gate boost was an ls2 c6 and got him by almost a car by 120. all he had was an intake and he wanted to shoot him self after loosing to a cobalt...so i could care less what all yall v8 ls1 fanboys can say...either way any car with money can be fast.

Infact they get so buthurt they have to PM me to brag about it lmao wow kids now days...
Yeah, uhhh that's exactly what I was thinking about you.
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Yeah, uhhh that's exactly what I was thinking about you.
Great minds think alike, and so do ours!
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Originally Posted by jonathan923
I see and i know V8s get very but hurt when they loose to a 4 cylinder, seen it and done it...to my experiece my closest race on waste gate boost was an ls2 c6 and got him by almost a car by 120. all he had was an intake and he wanted to shoot him self after loosing to a cobalt...so i could care less what all yall v8 ls1 fanboys can say...either way any car with money can be fast.

Infact they get so buthurt they have to PM me to brag about it lmao wow kids now days...
I can't fathom your logic. Yes anything can be fast with money but that fails to dispute that ls1 aren't fast. You claim butt hurt fanboys but no one here is worried about losing a race to you. Merely interested in correcting ignorance.

Compare apples to apples not apples to oranges. I have driven a stock LSJ/LNF vs stock ls1 and its a world of difference.
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Originally Posted by jonathan923
I see and i know V8s get very but hurt when they loose to a 4 cylinder, seen it and done it...to my experiece my closest race on waste gate boost was an ls2 c6 and got him by almost a car by 120. all he had was an intake and he wanted to shoot him self after loosing to a cobalt...so i could care less what all yall v8 ls1 fanboys can say...either way any car with money can be fast.

Infact they get so buthurt they have to PM me to brag about it lmao wow kids now days...
You must be turbo swapped then my boy. A LSJ is quick but not c6 owning quick.

Why do people always assume that someone is a fanboy of something when they say something factual about that something? Like, the LS1 is a beastly V-8 (oops I must be a fanboy now)... or I have seen a door slammer camaro run to the 330 mark with his front tires in the air when he was running a blown and bottle fed LS1 (I'm now a fanboy again damnit!)... or an LS1 camaro is an 11 second car when bolted and tuned let alone when it is a head and cam swapped engine... There is an old saying my pops told me... he is a V-8 fanboy from way way back, also a diesel mechanic, "Son", he said, (insert dip spit sound here) "there is no replacement for displacement."
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Originally Posted by jonathan923
I see and i know V8s get very but hurt when they loose to a 4 cylinder, seen it and done it...to my experiece my closest race on waste gate boost was an ls2 c6 and got him by almost a car by 120. all he had was an intake and he wanted to shoot him self after loosing to a cobalt...so i could care less what all yall v8 ls1 fanboys can say...either way any car with money can be fast.

Infact they get so buthurt they have to PM me to brag about it lmao wow kids now days...
bullshit on that pending your mod list.. claiming to have beaten a 11/12 second car with your LSJ is quite the claim unless you have some serious mods (starting with traction mods)

as for bolded...irony
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He said he was on wastegate boost, which tells me he is turbo swapped. Still, I don't see how that has anything to do with ls1s being, "not fast." Fact is, the ls1 f-body is one of the most tried and true straight line platforms available. They'll turn 12s bone stock with the right driver, with a cam there are very few cars on this board that could keep up. Heads and a cam? Yikes. . .
Old 05-02-2011, 04:46 PM
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i never said they werent fast lmao i just stated my opinion on how people usually think stock ls1s are fast when there not that fast!!! yes compare to a stock lsj or lnf its obiously faster but thats all.

and am hahn 5 on 16-17 psi
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i my self like V8 motors but for now ill keep my 4 cylinder making V8 power or at least more than most stock v8s i see. but the day i jump into a 8 cylinder is not going to be an ls1...just because it makes less power than its other newer versions...god damm people here are really soft lol
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Originally Posted by jonathan923
i never said they werent fast lmao i just stated my opinion on how people usually think stock ls1s are fast when there not that fast!!! yes compare to a stock lsj or lnf its obiously faster but thats all.

and am hahn 5 on 16-17 psi
Oh really now?


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nice kill, in for vids. ls1 arent fast, i dont know why people brag so much bout them...whats funny is that it could had been a closer race since u arent tuned but either that or the guy wasent shifting right...
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Originally Posted by jonathan923
i my self like V8 motors but for now ill keep my 4 cylinder making V8 power or at least more than most stock v8s i see. but the day i jump into a 8 cylinder is not going to be an ls1...just because it makes less power than its other newer versions...god damm people here are really soft lol
Your car doesn't make V8 power, it makes boosted 4 cylinder power
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I've been hearing a lot of "it musta been an LT1" if it got beat that much. Unless its a bone stock LT1, they're not that far back from an LS1 when it comes to performance with mods. I have an 09 SS/TC with a K&N/tune and a 95 Z28 - the LT1 has BBK headers running to a 3" pipe, and the typical mods and tune for the LT1. The 95 will edge out my SS/TC on a roll and kill off a dig.

As far as handling, the fourth gens are only a set of tires and a driver mod away from equally good handling - you just gotta be used to what a solid rear axle does, and you can take the turns with absolutely no problem. The only issue you ever get is the rear likes to step out a little when upset, and if you can't handle that, you might as well turn in your license.
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Oh really now?




well they arent so fast anyways is what i meant so why brag about em so much. yea simple bolts ons and tune wakes them up but there not all that either way...

That is my OPINION just like everybody and there ********...
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Originally Posted by Shibito
Your car doesn't make V8 power, it makes boosted 4 cylinder power
hahaha true...i dont got the torque they have lol
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Let me make this clear. I'm only going off what the Guy told me he had. It coulda been a ******* 576 big block, idk. It was definitely a v8 and I had his ass bad. The only chick who filmed the races doesn't seem to wanna send us the films but ask starzdice, he was there. O and about ur 95 z28, my friend has a 94 z28 stock block but procharged and I walked his ass worse then the trans am
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Actually there is quite a difference between LT1 and ls1 power. Cam only ls1 make head cam intake bolt on LT1 power. As much as I loved my old LT1, it really didn't compare.
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Wow..... you blew off a procharged LT1 Z ? It must be a very half assed intall ..... more like just sitting there spinning without making boost / half assed. My intake /cat delete 95 Z (stripper) went 13.6 @ 106 ..... They arent that bad.
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I think I'm gonna throw up from stupidity poisoning.
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i will gladly run someone in my bfs soccer dads SUV if someone says lsx's arent fast.
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LSXs are very slow!!! hahaha jk jk thats the best of all. no need to go boost at that point..lol


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