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ok so this kid i work with has a 92 talon tsi awd and he getting bigger injectors and a turbo back exhaust in about a month or so. he says he wants to put money on the race which i doubt i will do. anyway if he has injectors that means hes gonna be turning the boost up im pretty sure hes on the stock turbo and has no fmic. how much boost can the stock turbo handle and what kinda power is he gonna be putting down on high boost w/ an exhaust. then i need to kno what i would need to be able to beat him. and when i say beat i really wanna hand him his ass bc he talks down to me all the frigging time even tho stock for stock i kill him every time. let me kno what you guys think
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ok so this kid i work with has a 92 talon tsi awd and he getting bigger injectors and a turbo back exhaust in about a month or so. he says he wants to put money on the race which i doubt i will do. anyway if he has injectors that means hes gonna be turning the boost up im pretty sure hes on the stock turbo and has no fmic. how much boost can the stock turbo handle and what kinda power is he gonna be putting down on high boost w/ an exhaust. then i need to kno what i would need to be able to beat him. and when i say beat i really wanna hand him his ass bc he talks down to me all the frigging time even tho stock for stock i kill him every time. let me kno what you guys think
just fyi- now that he is stage 2 we ran from a 40 roll and a couple 1st gear rolls, and i still put a couple on him with my mods! he is supposed to be at 400 crank hp.
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Stock turbo can put out about 300hp. So its not a slow car for sure. The side mount is a big disadvantage unless he is running the supra side mount. If he is running the stock ecu he will hit fuel cut way before turning that kind of power. If he is putting in larger injectors he is running with a few diff possibilities. A Chipped ecu, safc, or maf translator. Its possible he could be running the 1g dsm link(almost like a full standalone). Chipped ecu or dsm link can give them a huge advantage on a digg due the possibility of the stutterbox or the no lift to shift options. The upgraded turbos are hard to see in dsms also. The 16g turbos look a lot like the stock ones. If they put the heat shield back on the turbo it could be even harder to see. Also look for the hard piping under the hood. Some of the aftermarket ones are just plain black and look oem. Otherwise good luck. Let us know how it went.
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tsi's of any year are fast. thats what i hate about them. you roll up and see one that looks kinda junky and dont know if it could be a 12 second car or a piece of crap. same for foxbody mustangs. i dont know how many times i've had my ass handed to me by both of those.
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ok so from a dig it would be a tough race but from a roll would stage 2 be able beat him hatrickstu you have stg 2 and exhaust right and tourqe damper
he is useing the DSM link for tuning and im pretty sure hes still gonna be on the stock turbo
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he is useing the DSM link for tuning and im pretty sure hes still gonna be on the stock turbo
thanks for the input
keep it comeing
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ok so from a dig it would be a tough race but from a roll would stage 2 be able beat him hatrickstu you have stg 2 and exhaust right and tourqe damper
he is useing the DSM link for tuning and im pretty sure hes still gonna be on the stock turbo
thanks for the input
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he is useing the DSM link for tuning and im pretty sure hes still gonna be on the stock turbo
thanks for the input
keep it comeing
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ok i think worst case scenario for me he maxes out the stock turbo to 300 or so hp i dont think hed get that much be his engine has 120k on it. what would i need to keep up from a roll
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I put 348hp to the wheels with over a 100k on my engine. Should be a interesting race. Just make sure you look for the hidden goodies. If its the stock turbo Im pretty sure you could probably take him. However upgraded it could be a pretty good fight.
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with the bigger injectors hes gonna need atleast a MAFT, he will slaughter you. ive built 2 DSMs one was a 90 laser that i put a 20G on and the other was a 90 talon with just the stock 14B. with just a 8 dollar boost controller, and 4 dollars in a new fuel pump power line they are fast. But if he doesnt do the fuel pump rewire, when he gets above 15psi he will fuel cut and thats the most horrific feeling thing in the world! its like being kicked in the nuts by a profesional kick boxer
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Fuel cut is damn interesting. Feels like a brick wall in a dsm. I popped my intercooler line off at 110mph on a road course. That was a interesting thing to happen right before a corner!
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ok so this kid i work with has a 92 talon tsi awd and he getting bigger injectors and a turbo back exhaust in about a month or so. he says he wants to put money on the race which i doubt i will do. anyway if he has injectors that means hes gonna be turning the boost up im pretty sure hes on the stock turbo and has no fmic. how much boost can the stock turbo handle and what kinda power is he gonna be putting down on high boost w/ an exhaust. then i need to kno what i would need to be able to beat him. and when i say beat i really wanna hand him his ass bc he talks down to me all the frigging time even tho stock for stock i kill him every time. let me kno what you guys think
I highly doubt you'll beat him. Stage 2 and you'll be close from a roll.
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he says he expects to be at 300hp when hes done according to you guys that seems t be pushing it. how would i stack up to that w/ CA stg 4 and header/down pipe/ exhaust +hp tuners
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Stock turbo can put out about 300hp. So its not a slow car for sure. The side mount is a big disadvantage unless he is running the supra side mount. If he is running the stock ecu he will hit fuel cut way before turning that kind of power. If he is putting in larger injectors he is running with a few diff possibilities. A Chipped ecu, safc, or maf translator. Its possible he could be running the 1g dsm link(almost like a full standalone). Chipped ecu or dsm link can give them a huge advantage on a digg due the possibility of the stutterbox or the no lift to shift options. The upgraded turbos are hard to see in dsms also. The 16g turbos look a lot like the stock ones. If they put the heat shield back on the turbo it could be even harder to see. Also look for the hard piping under the hood. Some of the aftermarket ones are just plain black and look oem. Otherwise good luck. Let us know how it went.
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Also he may have a "stock" turbo but there is a few diff. variations size wise that all look the same. Awd isnt that fast on the highway tho.... That may be your only chance haha.
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Yeap me I had one....I know every bolt number by heard on the 4G63 block.
Am telling you right now. the battle is going to be very very hard.... I well made over 300HP and 300 or torque with a 10$ boost controller, bigger injectors, maft , front mount cooler and 3" full exhaust... on a stock 1G 1990 engine... weak spot on the mitsu's are the tranny and timing belt...the rest almost bullet proof.
good luck..
Am telling you right now. the battle is going to be very very hard.... I well made over 300HP and 300 or torque with a 10$ boost controller, bigger injectors, maft , front mount cooler and 3" full exhaust... on a stock 1G 1990 engine... weak spot on the mitsu's are the tranny and timing belt...the rest almost bullet proof.
good luck..
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ill put in some input. i raced a stock ss/sc from about a 20 roll in my talon 2wd. when i just had hard pipes, intake and a turbo back, stock boost, 115,000miles. He put bout half a car on me to bout 70. now this is with a t-25. the 1g had better turbos. so i believe it should be good race
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Yea I use to own one and we still do specialize in them locally. I have a few customers running megasquirt and spark as well as aem ems systems on there dsm's. They are really fun cars to build up. I even picked up a dodge colt gt that I was going to do the engine swap into. However I ended up selling the colt and the talon. Now I have a new Frankenstein project going on that I will show you guys once I get a bit further into the project. Those of you that know what it is shhh .
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Yea I use to own one and we still do specialize in them locally. I have a few customers running megasquirt and spark as well as aem ems systems on there dsm's. They are really fun cars to build up. I even picked up a dodge colt gt that I was going to do the engine swap into. However I ended up selling the colt and the talon. Now I have a new Frankenstein project going on that I will show you guys once I get a bit further into the project. Those of you that know what it is shhh .
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