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Old 11-09-2006, 09:38 PM
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Proshe Turbo

I am meeting up with a proshe owner tommorrow if i get the beast running to have some fun

I belive its a 911 turbo or a 944 turbo newer car

should be intersting how it turns out
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wait what....if it's newer it has to be a 911 turbo...they are FAST. the new one can outrun a z06 by a pretty good amount. VERY, VERY fast car. stay away!!!!!
Old 11-09-2006, 10:24 PM
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^ i believe your mistaken, the 911 TT is very comparible to the new 505 HP Z06 if not a touch slower.
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well the fastest 911 turbo times i have seen are faster than the fastest z06 times i have ever even heard of, so that's just what i am basing it off of, but the z06 is rediculously fast also. all of the cars in that range are just crazy fast. i think it was motortrend that just tested it and ran an 11.3 or something like that. it was definately a low 11 which is faster than a z06 will run. there is so much technology put into that thing it is amazing. either way, you are going to get slaughtered, but it will be a fun slaughtering.
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ill die proudly
Old 11-10-2006, 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bdwarr6
ill die proudly
Dude, Can you atleast spell it right??? Porsche!
Old 11-10-2006, 04:28 AM
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I've seen an 06 ZO6 run 11.3 bone stock, not even an air filter change..Don't count Chevy out, the Vettes are almost supercar status for half the price
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i spell like **** whats new?
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I have a hard time beliving the new Z will get beat by the 997 turbo. The Z is quite a bit lighter and also the awd takes away a good amount of power vs the rwd. Not to mention the Z has more horse and more torque.
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Originally Posted by 8cd03gro
well the fastest 911 turbo times i have seen are faster than the fastest z06 times i have ever even heard of, so that's just what i am basing it off of, but the z06 is rediculously fast also. all of the cars in that range are just crazy fast. i think it was motortrend that just tested it and ran an 11.3 or something like that. it was definately a low 11 which is faster than a z06 will run. there is so much technology put into that thing it is amazing. either way, you are going to get slaughtered, but it will be a fun slaughtering.
The famous "Ranger" from the vette forums ran 11.2 in a bone stock C6 Z06.
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Originally Posted by tryit
I have a hard time beliving the new Z will get beat by the 997 turbo. The Z is quite a bit lighter and also the awd takes away a good amount of power vs the rwd. Not to mention the Z has more horse and more torque.
Since when does AWD take away power? Yes it has more power-train loss so in that regaurd it might. But, for example a 300 crank hp engine putting power to the ground through 4 wheels will have less power actually getting to the ground because of the power-train lose. That same engine through 2 wheels will get more power down than if it ran through 4 wheels (In general). But, 300awhp is still 300hp! and 600awhp is still 600hp. Get what I'm saying?

Other than that, I agree with you. I want a zo6!!!
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Originally Posted by leviticus88
Since when does AWD take away power? Yes it has more power-train loss so in that regaurd it might. But, for example a 300 crank hp engine putting power to the ground through 4 wheels will have less power actually getting to the ground because of the power-train lose. That same engine through 2 wheels will get more power down than if it ran through 4 wheels (In general). But, 300awhp is still 300hp! and 600awhp is still 600hp. Get what I'm saying?

Other than that, I agree with you. I want a zo6!!!
AWD doesn't cause the engine to make less power, obviously, but his point was that not only does the Z06 make more power at the crank (505 vs. 480), but it also is likely to lose less power through the drivetrain, making the REAL power difference between the two (comparing WHP) even greater than the crank hp numbers would suggest.
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Originally Posted by Blainestang
AWD doesn't cause the engine to make less power, obviously, but his point was that not only does the Z06 make more power at the crank (505 vs. 480), but it also is likely to lose less power through the drivetrain, making the REAL power difference between the two (comparing WHP) even greater than the crank hp numbers would suggest.
Yes, but also take into acount the advantage of an AWD launch. My money is on the porsche for 0-30+ then the vette FTW!

The first c6 zo6 I saw run (with just headers) was spinning across the finish line! It was amazing.
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Originally Posted by leviticus88
Yes, but also take into acount the advantage of an AWD launch. My money is on the porsche for 0-30+ then the vette FTW!

The first c6 zo6 I saw run (with just headers) was spinning across the finish line! It was amazing.
Yeah, there are definitely other advantages to AWD, and from a dig, the launch generally makes up for the power loss. I was just explaining what he meant.

If the Z can get some decent traction, I've got my money on it... and I'd definitely take one over the Porsche.
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I watched a brand new Z-06 and a PORSCHE 911 Turbo go at it on RT.29 in Howard county
MD. The Vette was just cruising at about 70 right n front of me when a 911 turbo with dealer temp tags pulls up on his right and starts reving at him. The dude in the Vette shook his head no and the guy in the Porsche flipped him off down shifted and took off!
The Vette let him get about 10 cars ahead and he down shifted and took off like a bat out of hell! He catches the 911 slows down flips the guy in the Porsche off and punches it again and walks away from the Porsche and was gone! That Vette PWN3D that Porsche BIG TIME!

Off the line I couldn't tell you who'd win but from a 70 mph roll that Porsche looked like a bitch!
Old 11-10-2006, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackalope
I watched a brand new Z-06 and a PORSCHE 911 Turbo go at it on RT.29 in Howard county
MD. The Vette was just cruising at about 70 right n front of me when a 911 turbo with dealer temp tags pulls up on his right and starts reving at him. The dude in the Vette shook his head no and the guy in the Porsche flipped him off down shifted and took off!
The Vette let him get about 10 cars ahead and he down shifted and took off like a bat out of hell! He catches the 911 slows down flips the guy in the Porsche off and punches it again and walks away from the Porsche and was gone! That Vette PWN3D that Porsche BIG TIME!

Off the line I couldn't tell you who'd win but from a 70 mph roll that Porsche looked like a bitch!
Yeah, with stock Z06's running ~127mph through the traps, almost NOTHING is going to hold them off once traction is no longer an issue.

Also,

::NEWSFLASH::

Just saw this on another site...

On Tuesday, "Ranger" ran a 10.85 @ 129.5 in a bone stock Z06, with the exeption of DR's. AMAZING!!!

http://www.mustangforums.com/m_22213...tm.htm#2221374
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haha either that didn't happen at all, or the z06 was modded like hell. a veyron wouldn't pull back ten cars on a the new 911 turbo very quickly. what you guys are failing to realize is how much awd helps a car with that much power. plus, the porsche most likely builds power faster and possibly torque. it supposedly has almost 0 lag because of this system they put into the turbos which adjusts the compressor blades according to rpm and flow. obviously, with cars that fast it will be a drivers race, even if one car is definately faster, and the z06 could be faster, but from what i have seen the 911t is faster, and i don't doubt it. the sequential gear box in the porsche is faster than a stick, which also helps. lots of factors, but my whole point was they are extremely fast.]


edit: this is not to the post above, it is to the one 2 above.
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Originally Posted by 8cd03gro
haha either that didn't happen at all, or the z06 was modded like hell. a veyron wouldn't pull back ten cars on a the new 911 turbo very quickly. what you guys are failing to realize is how much awd helps a car with that much power. plus, the porsche most likely builds power faster and possibly torque. it supposedly has almost 0 lag because of this system they put into the turbos which adjusts the compressor blades according to rpm and flow. obviously, with cars that fast it will be a drivers race, even if one car is definately faster, and the z06 could be faster, but from what i have seen the 911t is faster, and i don't doubt it. the sequential gear box in the porsche is faster than a stick, which also helps. lots of factors, but my whole point was they are extremely fast.]


edit: this is not to the post above, it is to the one 2 above.

Hey thats cool I watched it happen but whatever. Oh and check out the article in I believe it was Motor Trend or Car & Driver with the Z-06 vs the Porsche 911 turbo and they have it smoking the Porsche too. As for the Z-06 its bone stock. How do I know? Good question! I work at the dealership that sold him the car and we're the only people he lets touch it.
Again no biggie believe me or not it doesn't bother me I'm only reporting on what I witnessed.

Heres the link from the other thread. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1541575
Whats a Porsche run in a 1/4? i doubt its anywhere near this fast.
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Here you go I foound you another link to check out. Its all the 911's specs from Road & Track magizine. Its got 1/4 mile times and top speeds and such. Coincidently enough it traps a 1/4 at 11.6 @118 mph and tops out at 193 both are bested by the Z-06. Anyway heres the link

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=4052
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that run is with drag radials, which is a mod wether you like it or not and with a car with that much power, dr's will do ALOT.

i phrased my post the wrong way above i didn't mean to say it didnt happen, i meant to say it didn't happen the way i was taking what you said. (i could have been misunderstanding it is what i was saying) because if the 911 is still getting on it totally, there is no way a z06 will make up a 10 car gap. that is like a stock srt-4 making up a 10 car gap on an ss/sc within your field of vision. i didnt mean to try to discredit you.
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Originally Posted by 8cd03gro
that run is with drag radials, which is a mod wether you like it or not and with a car with that much power, dr's will do ALOT.

i phrased my post the wrong way above i didn't mean to say it didnt happen, i meant to say it didn't happen the way i was taking what you said. (i could have been misunderstanding it is what i was saying) because if the 911 is still getting on it totally, there is no way a z06 will make up a 10 car gap. that is like a stock srt-4 making up a 10 car gap on an ss/sc within your field of vision. i didnt mean to try to discredit you.
Well, the same guy that ran 10.8 @ 129 w/ DRs ran a 11.2 @ 127 BONE STOCK. So, while an excellent driver may be able to drop a few tenths off the time of the Porsche, they are not likely to gain back the 9 mph difference in trap speed.

Trap speeds say that the Z06 is the faster car (until I see some similar 911 traps), but traction keeps the 911 in the race.

Either way, I'd LOVE to see this race It'd be a good one for sure.
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Originally Posted by 8cd03gro
that run is with drag radials, which is a mod wether you like it or not and with a car with that much power, dr's will do ALOT.

i phrased my post the wrong way above i didn't mean to say it didnt happen, i meant to say it didn't happen the way i was taking what you said. (i could have been misunderstanding it is what i was saying) because if the 911 is still getting on it totally, there is no way a z06 will make up a 10 car gap. that is like a stock srt-4 making up a 10 car gap on an ss/sc within your field of vision. i didnt mean to try to discredit you.

Its all good man don't worry.
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